entropay,bank account & correct way to make stealth accounts

[fuggles]

I am with natwest already


Through online banking, I just made another basic account.

Will they send me a card with that account ?
And with that card can I sign up to paypal with it ?


I also have an entropay card, but should I use it ?

Or just use my new bank card details ?

[Killuminati]

Yes and yes

[JamesNorth101]

The issue you may run into is loading funds into your PP account, as you will not be able to do it via DD due to mismatching names. Entropay solves that problem as you can use the entropay VVC to load funds to the paypal.

[Ebayorbust]

Originally Posted by fuggles

I am with natwest already


Through online banking, I just made another basic account.

Will they send me a card with that account ?
And with that card can I sign up to paypal with it ?


I also have an entropay card, but should I use it ?

Or just use my new bank card details ?

You wont be able to add the card unless the stealth address is the same as the address on the bank card.

If you have an Entropay card, use it.

[fuggles]

Thanks.

I plan to use the entropay and the other bank account to make more than one account on ebay.



Making a new bank account with Natwest online is very easy so I would prefer this route. Could I use my real name and address and not get caught when I use it for paypal ?

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

The issue you may run into is loading funds into your PP account, as you will not be able to do it via DD due to mismatching names. Entropay solves that problem as you can use the entropay VVC to load funds to the paypal.

Mismatching name ?

If I sign up to ebay with a false name and address,

But have a new paypal account, with my real name, will I get caught ?

[GTB]

on stealth accounts, you can only add the sort code & account number from your bank account

you cannot add the debit card details as the name and address will not match

instead, just add a entropay virtual credit card (vcc) or a vcc from an authorized seller on the forum Buy, Sell or Trade - eBay Suspension & Paypal Limited Forums

also its not a good idea to open too many bank accounts, especially with the same bank, make sure you understand stealth properly before you go adding bank accounts to your stealth accounts

with natwest you can set up the direct debit with a different name...

so you can add the bank account (sort & account number) to pay pal, which will verify your pay pal account and allow you to withdraw funds to your bank account

depending if your name is popular or not, e.g john smith, you mite get away with using your real name, but you really must make sure you sign up with as much different info as possible

also, you can only add your bank account to one pay pal account!

[JamesNorth101]

It is also very much advised that you paypal info matches your EB info. If you haven't already, get a copy of the stealth guide, it will fill in any blanks you have as well as answer some questions you will not have thought of.

[fuggles]

Originally Posted by GTB

on stealth accounts, you can only add the sort code & account number from your bank account

you cannot add the debit card details as the name and address will not match

instead, just add a entropay virtual credit card (vcc) or a vcc from an authorized seller on the forum Buy, Sell or Trade - eBay Suspension & Paypal Limited Forums

also its not a good idea to open too many bank accounts, especially with the same bank, make sure you understand stealth properly before you go adding bank accounts to your stealth accounts

with natwest you can set up the direct debit with a different name...

so you can add the bank account (sort & account number) to pay pal, which will verify your pay pal account and allow you to withdraw funds to your bank account

depending if your name is popular or not, e.g john smith, you mite get away with using your real name, but you really must make sure you sign up with as much different info as possible

also, you can only add your bank account to one pay pal account!

Direct Debit ? What has that got to do with it ?

I have an account with natwest.
I opened a new account.

Won't that mean a new sort number, account number, and card ?


Also, couldn't I just send the money to a different paypal account so I could withdraw it to my main account ?

[GTB]

when you add the bank account (sort code & account number) to pay pal

you enter an agreement to set up a direct debit between pay pal and your bank

this is standard

when i say adding card, i mean the 16 digit number from your bank card (debit card)

when you try to add this to pay pal, they will check to see if the name and address match up, if not you cant add the card

[fuggles]

Originally Posted by GTB

when you add the bank account (sort code & account number) to pay pal

you enter an agreement to set up a direct debit between pay pal and your bank

this is standard

when i say adding card, i mean the 16 digit number from your bank card (debit card)

when you try to add this to pay pal, they will check to see if the name and address match up, if not you cant add the card

Thanks.

But if I did use my real name and address to sign up to paypal, could ebay still catch me ?


if I don't will I just be stuck with a limited "10 item a month" account ?

[JamesNorth101]

You will also struggle to send money across to another PP each month without getting both limited. You also need to ensure that there is always enough money in the PP to cover and returns, disputes and fees otherwise as soon as PP try to take the money from your account, they will see the real name and shut you down, EB would quickly follow.

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by fuggles

Thanks.

But if I did use my real name and address to sign up to paypal, could ebay still catch me ?


if I don't will I just be stuck with a limited "10 item a month" account ?

EB and Paypal share nearly all information, so if you enter your correct info into PP and then link it to a EB with stealth details, reg flags will be raised and you will quickly be locked down. Any bank account attached to the PP will also be burned.

[JamesNorth101]

And your wont be stuck with 10 items a month so long as you sell to your max, keep happy customers and high DSR it will grow by itself each month.

[fuggles]

Thanks.

But I have to 4.95 for an entropay card ? Is that right ?

I have read other people on the forum open new bank accounts. why then, if you shuld be using entropay ?

[JamesNorth101]

An entropay is a minimum load of £10, and charges 4.95% on that. So loading a card with £10 will cost you £10.45. You can then trasnfer this £10 onto other VVC. I loaded my entropay VVC with £10 and used it to get 40 PP accounts, so really it costs very little.

To withdraw money from PP you need a bank account, at least that is the most common easiest method. It is also the only way in the UK (that I know of) to get your PP fully verified, and thus less likely to be taken down.

[fuggles]

Why not just send the money to a main paypal account that is connected to a bank account?

Or will they link them that way ?

[JamesNorth101]

They will link it that way. Anytime you send money to another Paypal a link is formed. They just love to link things. If all your stealth PP are sending money to one main PP you will not get very far before everything is shut down and they hold onto your money for 180 odd days. All stealths need to be kept totally separate from one another. Any link is just asking for trouble.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by fuggles

I am with natwest already


Through online banking, I just made another basic account.

Will they send me a card with that account ?
And with that card can I sign up to paypal with it ?

No, because your name might get detected. We always suggest using a vcc for an extra layer of protection. As well, the address of the card issued by the bank will differ from your stealth account and thus make issues.

I also have an entropay card, but should I use it ?

Or just use my new bank card details ?

Use entropay. entropay used correctly is ideal for UK stealth.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by fuggles

Why not just send the money to a main paypal account that is connected to a bank account?

Or will they link them that way ?

If this is your line of thinking, you need to do much more reading.

It is never recommended to move money around paypal to paypal to paypal.

This links all accounts. paypal will limit all of them.

Ideal stealth is to appear as normal as possible to paypal.

[AKasper]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

An entropay is a minimum load of £10, and charges 4.95% on that. So loading a card with £10 will cost you £10.45. You can then trasnfer this £10 onto other VVC. I loaded my entropay VVC with £10 and used it to get 40 PP accounts, so really it costs very little.

To withdraw money from PP you need a bank account, at least that is the most common easiest method. It is also the only way in the UK (that I know of) to get your PP fully verified, and thus less likely to be taken down.

How did you manage to create 40 PP accounts with a VCC? Wouldn't you have to attach a bank account to each of the 40 PP accounts then to be able to withdraw money? Thanks

[JamesNorth101]

I have bank accounts attached to just 15 at the moment.

I don't use all the EB and PP accounts for business selling, some sit for a few months with a few purchases and a few sales going though each month slowing growing, and the money in those PP accounts just sits waiting, never a huge amount though as I use it to buy items when ever I sell an item. If your creative about it there are also ways other than Bank Accounts to cash out a PP if need be.

On entro you can just create new VVC when ever you want, and it can done for free if you do it in the right way. PP deduct £2 or so from the VVC, and credit it back to the VVC after a few days, so you can recycle the money on there over and over.

[AKasper]

Yeah but that's still 15 bank accounts...that's a lot of accounts! lol

Can you just withdraw the money to the VCC which you can then link to your bank, rather than have a direct link from PP accounts to bank accounts?

Trying to find a way of not using loads of bank accounts