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Hello everyone,

I haven't use VMWare before and have a few questions before start to use it.
I'm running Windows 7 OS and the VMWare is Windows XP.


As the picture below, I have the PC MAC changed (in red) and the VMware MAC (in orange)



But when I'm in the Windows XP (VMware) it show the MAC ID is different as the picture below.



Let say that Amazon can see your PC MAC address, in pic number 1 that show 2 MAC are active.

- Do Amazon see them both? Or just one main one or the VMware one?
- If I have more VMWare image, what MAC do I need to change? The PC MAC one?
- If I have like 5 VMWare image, do I have to disable the other 4 VMware NIC or it is OK to leave them as is?

Sorry for my bad English.

Thank you for your help
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Greetings,

First it will be useful to define what MAC addresses are and how they
are normally used.

Definition:
MAC address - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier
attached to most forms of networking equipment."
Normally a twelve digit hexadecimal number, like: 00-08-74-4C-7F-1D

How it is used:
It's most common use is in the "data link" layer of the OSI model:
OSI model - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When a computer on a network has an IP address it needs to contact it
sends out an ARP request to all machines on its network segment (using
the broadcast address) and receives an answer from the owner of that
address with its mac address. It then stores this in an arp table for
later reference. The mac address is then used to send data directly
to that computer.
Address Resolution Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can view the arp table on a windows XP machine by typing "arp -a"
from a command prompt. You can even manipulate the table, though this
is not recommended.
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What you will see in your arp table are IP addresses that are on your
local network. You will not see any entries for computer beyond your
closest router. The reason for this is simple; your computer doesn't
care about anythign past that.

All a computer needs to know is how to get to the next router on the
way to its final destination (next hop). Once your PC has the mac
address of your closest router and hands the data off to it, then it
is that next router's job to have the mac address of the next router
in line and so on. Each router is only going to keep arp tables with
mac addresses of devices that are on the same subnets as they are on.
Remember the way they usually acquire mac addresses is using a
broadcast. This will only reach as far as the next router. Routers
will not pass on this information. If they did the whole Internet
would come to a screeching halt because there would be so many
broadcasts that the real data would be choked out. They only need to
know how to get to the next hop.
Broadcast address - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In short, as long as your router is seperated from this server that
you are connecting to by at least one other router (which I'm sure
that you are) they would not have your mac address in their arp
tables. You can see just how many routers are between you by doing a
"trace router".
How to use the Tracert command-line utility to troubleshoot TCP/IP problems in Windows

First you will see your routers Ip address that is local to your
computer, then you will see the address of your local IPS's router,
then there will most likely be several other router before finally
making to the server you are connecting to.

Each time the data passes through a router the portion of that data
that contains the last mac address is pulled out and the current
router's is put in. This allows the next router to respond without an
arp request to the previous router.

This is a similar discussion:
http://content.ix2.net/arc/t-4333.html
"There is no way to determine the mac address of your computer, once the
packets have passed through a router. The mac address is used only on a
local network and as a packet leaves your local network, the mac address is
replaced by the mac address of the router. This happens at every router
along the route between you and any other site."

Since your computer has an arp table that contains your routers LAN
side mac address it is possible that they could send that in the same
way they could 2) 3) and 4). But your router is going to have a
different mac address for it WAN side, which is the part that you
would care about. Your computer will not have the WAN side mac
address in its arp table because it is on the "other side" of your
router.

All that to say: They only way they could get your router's WAN-side
mac address would be have access to a device on your local ISP's
network on the same subnet as your router. This is highly improbable.

Your IP address is about all they get.

I just tested this with two PC's and router. I put them on different
ports on the router copied a file from one to the other. Each PC only
sees the mac address of the router, both in their arp tables and in
the actual packets themselves. There is no reference to the other
PC's mac address.


Thanks!

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Oh, I forgot to said that I'm not using a router. Just connect my PC direct to the Cable Modem.
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The reason it is different inside the VM is because each VM has a unique mac address. To change it, go to the VM settings in VMworkstation or a similar program you are using and go to the advanced settings of the network adapter. You can type any mac address you want and that will essentially spoof the mac in the VM.
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The reason it is different inside the VM is because each VM has a unique mac address. To change it, go to the VM settings in VMworkstation or a similar program you are using and go to the advanced settings of the network adapter. You can type any mac address you want and that will essentially spoof the mac in the VM.
so do u need to change vmware mac adress and computer mac adress?
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Amazing screenshot - thanks
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