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MICKY H 11-28-2014 03:29 PM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 613347)
People are entitled to take any risk they see fit, they know the consequences, op has a lot of accounts so I'm sure he didn't test one of his best ones. Sometimes it's important for people to go against the grain and discover new things, or else we could be stuck wasting our time doing things we perhaps don't need to do(changing MAC)

We are all grown ups here and can make our own decisions and not blame someone if all goes wrong.

For example, some have the impression that logging into Amazon from another country is a death sentence, as a frequent traveller i know this not to be true.

I know people that even create Amz/eb/pp for other countries with their home IP. I wouldn't endorse this, but like many have said, IP is one part of an overall risk assessment

Off course they were not my best accounts, but we have to experiment as you say. They are now pretty well established accounts since my original post however.
I am also a regular traveller and will log onto my USA account wherever I am in the world. However my EU accounts is a different story.

barrycruan 11-28-2014 03:35 PM

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So how do you access the eu accounts if you're out of Europe?

sax4 11-28-2014 03:41 PM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 613439)
So how do you access the eu accounts if you're out of Europe?

From wherever, log in from Spain for a UK account of whatever. I tried this on a couple of accounts with no problems. Not endorsing it, people can make their own experiments

MICKY H 11-29-2014 01:40 AM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 613439)
So how do you access the eu accounts if you're out of Europe?

The EU accounts are run by employees within our offices. I can access if required using VPN.

MICKY H 11-29-2014 01:43 AM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
However I would not recommend logging into several of your accounts from the same IP in another Country if you are on vacation. This would raise issues I would imagine.

krabbits 11-29-2014 01:31 PM

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Just wanted to contribute my experience for this thread.

I just started my first stealth account. Sold around 10 items and on one really hectic day I accidentally logged onto the stealth account from my banned accounts laptop/dongle. I was on there for 5 mins before the mistake hit me and I immediately logged out.

Fast forward 3 weeks later and around 40 units sold including FBA items and we're still looking good. I now have this IRS verification issue but the account has not had any problems outside of that.

elmo 11-29-2014 02:23 PM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krabbits (Post 613813)
Just wanted to contribute my experience for this thread.

I just started my first stealth account. Sold around 10 items and on one really hectic day I accidentally logged onto the stealth account from my banned accounts laptop/dongle. I was on there for 5 mins before the mistake hit me and I immediately logged out.

Fast forward 3 weeks later and around 40 units sold including FBA items and we're still looking good. I now have this IRS verification issue but the account has not had any problems outside of that.

IRS verification for 20k/200 limits? Looks like its time to create another one!

jboone733 11-29-2014 04:47 PM

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Sure would be nice if that was the truth!

sax4 11-29-2014 04:54 PM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 613588)
However I would not recommend logging into several of your accounts from the same IP in another Country if you are on vacation. This would raise issues I would imagine.

I have logged into all my accounts (uk, com, de, fr) with same IP from overseas, and from a "high risk" country too, no problems. But these days prefer not to risk it

yankee 11-29-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jboone733 (Post 613884)
Sure would be nice if that was the truth!

If what was the truth?

rsot 11-30-2014 07:11 AM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krabbits (Post 613813)
Just wanted to contribute my experience for this thread.

I just started my first stealth account. Sold around 10 items and on one really hectic day I accidentally logged onto the stealth account from my banned accounts laptop/dongle. I was on there for 5 mins before the mistake hit me and I immediately logged out.

Fast forward 3 weeks later and around 40 units sold including FBA items and we're still looking good. I now have this IRS verification issue but the account has not had any problems outside of that.

Congratulations so far :thumb:

krabbits 11-30-2014 03:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elmono (Post 613836)
IRS verification for 20k/200 limits? Looks like its time to create another one!

Lol crap I did not realize that this was part of the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 614071)
Congratulations so far :thumb:

Appreciate it!

nerecit 12-03-2014 07:49 PM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
I think it is a good thing that people test the systems and report their findings.

malaga310 12-05-2014 01:16 AM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
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Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 454178)
Dmshark25, this is just an experiment for myself which I am sharing. I have a static ip at my home and wanted to try this. I have 35 other accounts all running on dongles.

My friend, how can I create more than 2 different Amazon accounts with dongles, how dongles work?

imboxsy 12-05-2014 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nerecit (Post 615676)
I think it is a good thing that people test the systems and report their findings.


I agree. Sometime next week i'm going to test using the same EIN as a banned account on an account i can afford to lose. Since another member said they re used a EIN without a problem.

MICKY H 12-05-2014 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by imboxsy (Post 616170)
I agree. Sometime next week i'm going to test using the same EIN as a banned account on an account i can afford to lose. Since another member said they re used a EIN without a problem.

I would imagine this will get you linked. How long ago was the account suspended/deleted

Kelly441 12-05-2014 03:47 PM

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Be careful about what information you get on here. REMEMBER, there are Amazon trolls here.

Kelly441 12-05-2014 09:22 PM

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I have done some things that go against Stealth myself with success. Like not having a valid phone or anything left on the CC. It has never been an issue for the 3 years + I have been on Amazon.

malaga310 12-06-2014 07:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 613891)
I have logged into all my accounts (uk, com, de, fr) with same IP from overseas, and from a "high risk" country too, no problems. But these days prefer not to risk it

How can you use Amazon Seller Accounts from different countries, how you do it, where to get differnt Bank Accounts?

sax4 12-07-2014 07:59 AM

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You only need one bank account, you can use the same details on all four marketplaces, only thing that's different is email address for which you should have one each

malaga310 12-10-2014 04:31 PM

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Oooh ok, my friend, you donīt know how you are helping me to understand this, thank you so much. And if I was banned from Amazon US, can I use the same Bank Account to create a new one on Amazon US?

123 12-10-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by malaga310 (Post 618517)
Oooh ok, my friend, you donīt know how you are helping me to understand this, thank you so much. And if I was banned from Amazon US, can I use the same Bank Account to create a new one on Amazon US?

No need new bank account

Kelly441 12-11-2014 09:02 AM

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Just a tip about IPs

I notice that if I leave my inventory page up I do not have to log back in if I am just changing prices even if it is a week later. Now whether they log your IP at this point I don't know, but it does not re-authenticate.

I used to drive down to a hotspot, log on and then come home and hop on my wifi with banned Ip address and I did not have to re-authenticate

I don't believe that same IP triggers a review. However, if account go under manual review you can be sure they will look at that

rsot 12-11-2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelly441 (Post 618831)
Just a tip about IPs

I notice that if I leave my inventory page up I do not have to log back in if I am just changing prices even if it is a week later. Now whether they log your IP at this point I don't know, but it does not re-authenticate.

I used to drive down to a hotspot, log on and then come home and hop on my wifi with banned Ip address and I did not have to re-authenticate

I don't believe that same IP triggers a review. However, if account go under manual review you can be sure they will look at that

Don't think it's enough of an experience to make a general conclusion however

malaga310 12-11-2014 09:27 PM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 123 (Post 618527)
No need new bank account

Oohh my friend, thanks, this is great, I was thinking to get new bank account, then I only need to have new email, new phone number, new name and address, or can use the same as the banned account?

MICKY H 12-11-2014 10:18 PM

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123 is actually saying No, you need a NEW bank bank account.

malaga310 12-13-2014 10:17 AM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
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Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 619115)
123 is actually saying No, you need a NEW bank bank account.

Ok, I understood that I donīt need a new bank account, then how YOU have several Amazon Seller Accounts, how and where to get more than 2 or 3 and more Bank Accounts?... that was my question, because am thinking to create about 4-5 Amazon Seller Accounts.

amazonp 12-13-2014 10:43 AM

Re: My Conclusion on IP's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 613891)
I have logged into all my accounts (uk, com, de, fr) with same IP from overseas, and from a "high risk" country too, no problems. But these days prefer not to risk it

do you login them in the same time? or one by one?


MICKY H
do you login under same IP in the same time? or one by one?



If you login on same time could be different story

sax4 12-13-2014 11:37 AM

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One by one, i have made the odd mistake of logging into two at the same time with no problems

MICKY H 12-13-2014 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by amazonp (Post 619676)
do you login them in the same time? or one by one?

one by of course


MICKY H
do you login under same IP in the same time? or one by one?

anytime, whichever account I need to look at



If you login on same time could be different story

I only use one laptop so cannot do that

MICKY H 12-13-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by malaga310 (Post 619669)
Ok, I understood that I donīt need a new bank account, then how YOU have several Amazon Seller Accounts, how and where to get more than 2 or 3 and more Bank Accounts?... that was my question, because am thinking to create about 4-5 Amazon Seller Accounts.

Simple answer

1 AMZ ACCOUNT 1 BANK ACCOUNT
2 AMZ ACCOUNT 2 BANK ACCOUNT
3 AMZ ACCOUNT 3 BANK ACCOUNT

If you sell on amazon EU, you can open ONE amazon account and sell in UK,Fr,De,IT and SP with ONE bank account. However if one account gets suspended the rest will more than likely follow in time if the reason is for counterfeit goods, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID etc.

amazonp 12-14-2014 08:37 AM

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MICKY H
i just re-read your post, TWO ISSUE actually.

1, you run good amazon account from the same IP that was running a banned account BEFORE? so it will be very safe. because ip is small factor to link. (but i guess you MUST re-install OS or use different PC)

2, you mislead some readers, ur 4 accounts are different countries so they safe to login on SAME LAPTOP AND SAME IP.

barrycruan 12-14-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by amazonp (Post 619965)
MICKY H
i just re-read your post, TWO ISSUE actually.

1, you run good amazon account from the same IP that was running a banned account BEFORE? so it will be very safe. because ip is small factor to link. (but i guess you MUST re-install OS or use different PC)

2, you mislead some readers, ur 4 accounts are different countries so they safe to login on SAME LAPTOP AND SAME IP.

If your English isn't good and your asking for help I'd suggest you don't go around accusing seasoned forum members of misleading people.

Micky is saying you can have 4 different countries on 1 Amazon account which in effect is a master account. And then you can have multiple master accounts as most people do

malaga310 12-14-2014 01:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 619788)
Simple answer

1 AMZ ACCOUNT 1 BANK ACCOUNT
2 AMZ ACCOUNT 2 BANK ACCOUNT
3 AMZ ACCOUNT 3 BANK ACCOUNT

If you sell on amazon EU, you can open ONE amazon account and sell in UK,Fr,De,IT and SP with ONE bank account. However if one account gets suspended the rest will more than likely follow in time if the reason is for counterfeit goods, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID etc.

Mine was from US and was suspened due Low ODR, now I want to create some seller accounts but need how and where to get more than 2 bank accounts, as I have only one which was the one was suspened.


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