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user3657 09-01-2013 07:40 PM

Is it safe to logon with hotel internet on an established account?
 
suggestions?

An0nym0u$ 09-01-2013 08:09 PM

No. Any public wifi area should be avoided because it is a shared connection where others have probably used. In fact, any IP address that you cannot control yourself should be avoided.

BTW, if you're in a hotel, I would think you're on vacation...why not enjoy your vacation and forget about ebay/paypal/amazon!?! :noidea:

TonyAlmeida 09-01-2013 08:22 PM

I have PC at home which installed logmein on it. If needed, I can remote login from anywhere I want to

An0nym0u$ 09-01-2013 08:33 PM

Now, that is a much better solution! :thumb:

jamcocktail21 09-02-2013 01:46 AM

Nop is not safe

Get a broadband internet

TonyAlmeida 09-02-2013 01:49 AM

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You made this statement. So if i do this when i logon to my ebay account from computer say out of town through logmein with my computer at home. It will use my at home IP address correct?
Yes, that is right.

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Theres no way i could reset my router though im sure to change ip address so i would already have to have whatever account already on that certain IP i need
Yes, you can. Just like you sit in from of your home PC. When you reset your router you will get disconnect from logmein for 2-3 minutes and do log-in again.

Quote:

Maybe you use a VPS?
I use no VPS

kmbtrader 09-02-2013 01:54 PM

great info. I might be a little slow on this one though. I reset router inside the web browser but i always unplug it from the cable modem & router so if i am away out of state. I would easily reset in web browser but would it still take effect after awhile without me unplugging and replugging the modem/router? I am going to try now to see if i can get it right. Just more info is always helpful.

TonyAlmeida 09-02-2013 01:58 PM

You don't need to manual pull the plug and replug it. You can do the reset via the menu

kmbtrader 09-02-2013 02:27 PM

I see ah! hopefully i can throw you a bone in the future !

MICKY H 09-02-2013 10:52 PM

Never had a problem using internet in hotels etc. Amazon trace more than an IP. Just imagine how many people log onto amazon at JFK. Will amazon delete everybody, the answer is simple 'NO'

rsot 09-03-2013 01:33 PM

Logmein and Teamviewer are good services to use - dont use hotel public IP which could have likely been used and abused.

GreenBean 09-03-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by user3657 (Post 482123)
suggestions?

Avoid this.

Chance of IP being 'damaged'.

Hotel IPs can be hacked........

too risky

:nono:

glacier922 09-04-2013 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 482159)



Yes, you can. Just like you sit in from of your home PC. When you reset your router you will get disconnect from logmein for 2-3 minutes and do log-in again.

I don't think you can. You have to reset your modem too which you need to unplug. Since you're not home, you cannot unplug. Did I miss a step somewhere?

rsot 09-04-2013 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 482663)
I don't think you can. You have to reset your modem too which you need to unplug. Since you're not home, you cannot unplug. Did I miss a step somewhere?

Seems logical to me - I dont know how to reset the IP when using logmein....anyone can clarify?

GreenBean 09-04-2013 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 482704)
Seems logical to me - I dont know how to reset the IP when using logmein....anyone can clarify?

Then how do you use it if you do not know how it works?

Or did you just 'know' it was an option.

Something you got from those in the know?

:juggle:

rsot 09-04-2013 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 482706)
Then how do you use it if you do not know how it works?

Or did you just 'know' it was an option.

Something you got from those in the know?

:juggle:

GB, you misunderstand - I know HOW logmein works...I use it BUT I have not resetted the IP using logmein - I just access my computer with it and use it since it is always on....well one particular computer.

I also have used teamviewer.

studio 09-04-2013 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 482704)
Seems logical to me - I dont know how to reset the IP when using logmein....anyone can clarify?


log into remote PC, from remote PC use browser to log into router, reeset router from the menu.

GreenBean 09-04-2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rsot (Post 482713)
GB, you misunderstand - I know HOW logmein works...I use it BUT I have not resetted the IP using logmein - I just access my computer with it and use it since it is always on....well one particular computer.

I also have used teamviewer.

This confirms why I worry about using such a tool.

Where's the plan for restart if the computer ever went off line?

EG power fail & no-one has access to the computer. Could make trouble with ebay accounts if on holidays etc etc.

(going off topic, sorry )

:peace:

glacier922 09-04-2013 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studio (Post 482714)
log into remote PC, from remote PC use browser to log into router, reeset router from the menu.

For me, I also have to reset my modem in order to change the IP.

sacka_man 09-04-2013 07:35 PM

I have never had any issues logging into AZ using a shared IP address such as at a hotel or a bookstore. However I also agree with the notion that these IPs are more risky to use, but in my experience (3 different IPs) it has been fine.

studio 09-05-2013 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 482720)
For me, I also have to reset my modem in order to change the IP.

Ah, I think in US you have mostly DSL not ADSL right?

here in UK 90% of people have a modem router not a modem and a router so it makes life easier.

glacier922 09-05-2013 04:44 AM

Actually, a large part of our ISPs are cable modems. I think dsl is quite small part in the us, but I could be wrong. Logme in would so not work because I have to reset the modem for IP to change.

studio 09-05-2013 04:47 AM

ah ok, different to here. Here it is all ADSL pretty much and the modem and router are 1 box on ADSL, so no seperate router and modem. Easy to reset remotely from browser

rsot 09-05-2013 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 482718)
This confirms why I worry about using such a tool.

Where's the plan for restart if the computer ever went off line?

EG power fail & no-one has access to the computer. Could make trouble with ebay accounts if on holidays etc etc.

(going off topic, sorry )

:peace:

Just a quick follow-up to avoid going off topic - looked into this...there is no way of starting the computer if it goes off-line...would be trouble as you figured

GreenBean 09-05-2013 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 483040)
Just a quick follow-up to avoid going off topic - looked into this...there is no way of starting the computer if it goes off-line...would be trouble as you figured

Yep.

Shudders at the risks.

:surrender:

rsot 09-05-2013 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by studio (Post 483019)
ah ok, different to here. Here it is all ADSL pretty much and the modem and router are 1 box on ADSL, so no seperate router and modem. Easy to reset remotely from browser

Does the ADSL have it`s own special browser software to allow for reset?

TonyAlmeida 09-05-2013 06:21 AM

Would you care to explain your connection? I'm sure there is the way to do it via logmein remotly.
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 483018)
Actually, a large part of our ISPs are cable modems. I think dsl is quite small part in the us, but I could be wrong. Logme in would so not work because I have to reset the modem for IP to change.


MICKY H 09-05-2013 06:59 AM

Just to follow up, I have been using hotels, public wifi on my latest business travels, HK,Philippines,NZ,Singapore,Thailand, China (little nervous on this one) and all accounts are running sweet.

GreenBean 09-05-2013 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 483063)
Would you care to explain your connection? I'm sure there is the way to do it via logmein remotly.

Gets very techincal for me.

Basically yes there is a method to do this.

I am waiting for an explanation I can understand to share.

:surrender:

GreenBean 09-05-2013 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 483073)
Just to follow up, I have been using hotels, public wifi on my latest business travels, HK,Philippines,NZ,Singapore,Thailand, China (little nervous on this one) and all accounts are running sweet.

Offsider is doing similar travels.

No New Zealand but Asia more.

There have not been troubles.

On my last trip to NZ, I signed into amazon co uk from a different IP.

There was no reaction or trouble.

:mod:

studio 09-05-2013 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 483059)
Does the ADSL have it`s own special browser software to allow for reset?

nope you just put the IP of the router and log into it via your browser like you would any router, it is just that the router and modem are in one box rather than 2 seperate pieces of hardware so reset the router and you reset the modem.

user3657 09-05-2013 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 483040)
Just a quick follow-up to avoid going off topic - looked into this...there is no way of starting the computer if it goes off-line...would be trouble as you figured

First of all if its an important PC it should be running a backup system like a small APC unit. I even have a small unit to power my networking gear:humble:

Didnt think if Logmein, I use to use it for work(once the boss left I would head home and work from home hehe).

There is a setting in the bios that will automaticly turn a pc back on from lack of power.

rsot 09-05-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by user3657 (Post 483077)
First of all if its an important PC it should be running a backup system like a small APC unit. I even have a small unit to power my networking gear:humble:

Didnt think if Logmein, I use to use it for work(once the boss left I would head home and work from home hehe).

There is a setting in the bios that will automaticly turn a pc back on from lack of power.

This is interesting - but still, how to power down the MODEM for the IP reset?

TonyAlmeida 09-05-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 483153)
This is interesting - but still, how to power down the MODEM for the IP reset?

It really depend on your setup (DSL, Cable, Using router or not). Different setup/service/brand have a different way to do it.

The only one solution for all is pull the power cable and replug it :)

rsot 09-06-2013 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 483156)
It really depend on your setup (DSL, Cable, Using router or not). Different setup/service/brand have a different way to do it.

The only one solution for all is pull the power cable and replug it :)

I see - I guess I have always relied on powering it down manually

GreenBean 09-06-2013 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 483156)
It really depend on your setup (DSL, Cable, Using router or not). Different setup/service/brand have a different way to do it.

The only one solution for all is pull the power cable and replug it :)

Which might not be possible if a person is 'doing' remote access work.

They might be overseas and need access to the home located 'puter to do this.
May be impossible.




:brushteeth:

glacier922 09-06-2013 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 483063)
Would you care to explain your connection? I'm sure there is the way to do it via logmein remotly.

I have a computer connected Ethernet to a router and that router is connected to a cable modem. First you go into your router, change Mac, refresh, then recycle your modem and bam, you get a new IP within 4 mins. Would be impossible to restart your modem unless you can figure out how to pull the plug remotely.

TonyAlmeida 09-06-2013 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 483369)
I have a computer connected Ethernet to a router and that router is connected to a cable modem. First you go into your router, change Mac, refresh, then recycle your modem and bam, you get a new IP within 4 mins. Would be impossible to restart your modem unless you can figure out how to pull the plug remotely.

With your connection you can get your new IP easy.

1. Just log-in to your router and change your router MAC address and restart it. You WILL get new IP and don't need to power cycle your cable modem. When you change the router MAC address and apply, your router do the power cycle already.

2. To do a power cycle on your cable modem just read the manual for your modem, there will be and log-in IP and U/P for the modem, once you are log-in you can do whatever you want to it. But it is not need to power cycle your modem to get new IP.

TonyAlmeida 09-06-2013 07:19 AM

For my modem, I used Haxoware firmware

glacier922 09-06-2013 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 483378)
With your connection you can get your new IP easy.

there will be and log-in IP and U/P for the modem, once you are log-in you can do whatever you want to it.

^^^^

Could you please explain how you do this? You mean access your modem through the web browser and do a reset there?


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