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Sigh....you couldn't help yourself could you. :doh:

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[QUOTE=slokor;1176879] I would like to ask a few questions and hopefully get answers from their point of view. Just answers - not insults and not preaching. Lets at least try to stay civil.

Well that lasted half a day..

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If youre referring to my words to walkingupwards - cmon… is anyone thinking anything else about his comments...?

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Thinking an saying is two different things.
Far fetched but he may well be onto something who knows stranger things have happened

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Lol.
Alright then. His testicular problems are the fault of OTHER people being vaccinated...
Read that. Thats what youre saying is possible...
Anyway...
Back to my questions above - and add this one to them then - Who is behind making sure the vaccine can 'leak' and cause testicular issues in individuals such as walkingupwards... And why.

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I'm saying anything is possible. Civilized people can discuss without resolving to name calling. He has a right to speak. Just because it sounds crazy does not change that. You were the one asking for no insults and and to stay civil despite being the first person to resort to childish name calling when your programming has a conflict

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You keep coming back despite being done for the 18th time if I recall.
I think a part of you is still in there an fighting the programming
Keep fighting we will be here to support you :ballchain:

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You already said that and I already moved on and included his testicular issue in my discussion.
Back to the topic at hand... do you have any answers for me? You say its possible. Im asking by WHO and WHY. Who is and What is the purpose of a power that can sway ALL the governments of the world convincing them there is a pandemic and then to create a vaccine that will affect even those who do NOT take it and make their testicles "****ing hurt" (not my words - those are walking upwards' words).

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Have you actually read this thread ?

Other then the testicle section that is

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I did.
And as I said I have questions.
If you can answer them - great.
Otherwise can you please just stop?

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Your questions have already been answered
:pop2:

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Glad you think so but agree to disagree.
Ill ask them again anyway if its all the same to you.
Anyone else care to answer? What happened to all the conspiracy theorists among us?

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FFS, let it go. What is wrong with you? Why demand answers on a bloody conspiracy theory section because unless someone says exactly what you want to hear there never will be an answer.

I've seen women going through their menopause acting calmer than you, unless you are a woman going through the change of course....that might actually explain a lot.

You said you would no longer post on this thread. Given you cannot control your insults show one final act of decency and honour your word. :)

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"conspiracy theories"-theory about COVID is mostly leftist propaganda spread in north america and western europe trying to make people believe that any opinion against their line is a conspiracy theory. COVID is real but the risks from taking the so called vaccines are real as well

as I told before , at least 99% of the population do not need to take any "vaccines" against COVID at all as nothing will happen to them that goes beyond usual flu symptoms. the rest deserves help but certainly not by forcing the other 99% to poison themselves

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I was just trying to see things from the other point of view.
Thats all.
Hank youre a hypocrite. Using insults when you tell me not to instead of just offering answers to a simple set of questions meant to further the discussion on this thread.
Whatever.
You all just proved my point. Guess my questions pose too much of a challenge.

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I thought the 'no insult' request you made had been rescinded given your own inability to last more than a few hours, but if that makes me a hypocrite then so be it.

You've has your answers, or as I prefer to see them, personal opinions, but if you cant see them then that's your problem.

I think yankee summed you up right when they called you Thin Skin. How do you manage to get through the day without a meltdown if this aimless thread has you so triggered. Take a chill pill lass.

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Hank - Again writing on and on and hurling insults instead of actually answering the questions and furthering the thread. Seems as if you got no answers - at least none that wouldnt paint you in a negative light as a nutjob. I understand it but it still paints you as a Hypocrite.
Dont worry. No need to respond (although I know you will - and I will see more insults). I wont bother any longer. Seems like trying to actually get a coherent answer here as to WHO and WHY on earth anybody would bother with fooling the whole world is just too much for even the biggest conspiracy theorists here. Itll just come across as too bizzare so noone is taking a crack at it.
Ill leave you to your nonsense and to contemplating walkingupwards testicular problems. Its a good thing I promised several prominent forum members (including admins) I wouldnt share their names and opinions that were shared with me directly about the nutjobs on this thread. Theyre the smart ones not bothering with the ignorance and stupidity exhibited here and ill follow suit. Believe it or not folks - youre the minority.

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Sloker - Question for you but since you are fully vaccinated do you need a covid test to travel or go to crowded places? I am going to assume you don't

So given that you don't need to take a test before going to a stadium/travel but could actually carry the virus and spread it and those that are not vaccinated do have to take a test before going on a flight or into a crowed stadium which would you feel safer with?

Someone double vaxed but may have the virus or someone that isnt vaxed but has had a negative test within 24 hours clearing them of the virus?

There is point to the question and that is the vax gives a very false sense of security. An example being the SA to Netherlands flight - everyone will have been double if not tripple vaxed so none of them needed to take a test before boarding - and yet turns out 10% of the passengers on board (61) had covid when tested at landing.

Imagine that across the entire world - people mixing and feeling safe because they are double vaxed and therefore never need to take tests and yet if you use the same ratio 10% could be infected.

IMO it would be a lot better to have a mass daily lat flow tests that everyone does - other than thinking that just because your vaxed means you cannot spread it. Honestly those vaxed who never take any sort of tests and gathering with huge crowds are putting more people at risk those those who are not vaxed but have to take a test anytime they do anything that involves a crowd.

Counterpoint welcome....

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If I want to travel I still show proof of vaccination and a negative test.
We discussed the issue of the vaccine before. Noone says its perfect but it is proven to reduce the transmission rates. Someone who is vaccinated is less likely to contract it and even less likely to further transmit it. My personal thinking on it is I feel more comfortable around vaccinated individuals in such a setting because theyre more likely to take further measures to maintain their health and security (i.e. wear a mask in enclosed settings, maintain distance from others when possible etc). Someone who is not vaccinated strikes me as someone who is less likely to follow those basic guidelines (again - thats just me and my opinion). Thats just how I see it.
But whats the point of me even writing that? You dont believe a word of the studies published on the topic of transmission rates among vaccinated vs. non vaccinated so youll keep on holding to your opinion that getting vaccinated is pointless and ill hold to mine that it is the right thing to do.
Im not even talking about that though. Someone a few pages ago on this thread responded to me telling me this was the conspiracy theory thread so I asked a few questions about the 'who and 'why' but noone seems to wants to touch that so guess Im done here.

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Does that apply for sporting events?

That’s a lot of blanket assumptions but seems your aware of that. So you would really rather be with a crowd of vaccinated people than with those unvaccinated but with negative tests? Seems strange to me but that’s also just my option.

I have yet to see any study that breaks down the current rate of the population that is vaccinated and has the virus V the non vaccinated but infected. Would be interesting to read one honestly

I think they said the thread was in the conspiracy thread section. Not that covid was a conspiracy. Does anyone here actually think it’s all made up on that thread? Or indeeded started by a bunch of blocks/gals in a secret Smokey room? For the most part it seems to be a thread talking about the pros abs the cons of the vaccination.

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No it does not. For those you only need show the vaccine passport. Masks are still mandatory. Between those measure I feel safe enough. And I still havnt seen the tens of thousands of nonvaccinated who would get a test for every event they go to.
These same measure apply to ALL enclosed venues - including restaurants and such.

Yes. I explained it has to do with the attitude of the individual towards the whole thing. As I said I have yet to see tens of thousands get a test for every single event - let alone going to a restaurant. And I doubt an unvaccinated person who DID get the test just to go to a sporting even would be willing to wear the mask while at the event. Can you HONESTLY say Im wrong?

I do recall reading a couple of those but I didnt keep the links. Im sure you can google for those though. Shouldnt be difficult to find those.

I know. The questions I posed were for the conspiracy theorists here with regards to the pandemic and not just whether or not the pandemic itself is real. And I disagree with what you stated - some claim this is nothing more than a flu - i.e. not a pandemic.

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And yet it is still spread... cannot just be blamed on the unvaccinated if you take all those measures.


Again that is a very big assumption. I could argue they would take more precautions. I certainly know people that are not vaccinated that that a lot more safety measures V those who are vaccinated. I do think that your opinion on those unvaccinated is biased by personally opinion if I am honest and not objection or fact based.

Yet to see any myself.

It can be both no? It is a flu strain and there is a pandemic right now. It is more deadly than the standard flu, fully agree there. And just like a flu it cannot be fully vaccinated against.

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Im tired of all this.
Im done here...
To each their own.

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You wanted a debate and asked people to defend their opinion....

I am simply putting questions to you in a way to to understand yours.

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have you guys heard of liquid harddrives?

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...spoon-of-fluid

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Odd change of topic :)

Did they ever take off?

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And I answered them. Just feels like theyre being reasked again and again.
No disrespect but I dont see the point any longer.
Frankly Im tired of this and feel its a waste of my time.

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Ask Walkingupwards if he has one of these - maybe thats the reason for his testicular torment lol.

You been asking for answers again. James steps in to answer them an your done again and gone like the wind :doh:

That programming defense must kick in when rational thought is put to you
“Danger, Will Robinson, danger!”

“Most people tiptoe their way through life, hoping they make it safely to death.”
— Earl Nightingale

“Whatever the majority of people is doing, under any given circumstances if you do the exact opposite you will probably never make another mistake as long as you live”
Earl Nightingale

Timeless wisdom .. Majority of people always follow the crowd.
I would rather be the minority.

I know covid has no power to kill me. So why would I take a vaccine that HAS killed healthy people. This is FACT. I do not care if it is a small percentage. Why would I play russian roulette with my health just because there are 1,000 rounds instead of 6.
This is being sensible. Hiding from a flu like virus to feel safe under the bedsheets while taking multiple shots is a waste of life.

Being vaccinated does not protect others. So why is this narrative being pushed so hard? That is why people are suspicions off all this. None of it makes sense. Just desperate to inject everyone with experimental MRNA concoctions. 2years a (deadly plague) has been on this earth. So why are us unvaxxed most likely maskless people still here ?
Some 3rd world countries getting by like normal as if last two years never happened also :noidea:

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Famous last words.

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how do we know the vacine wil work with the mutated Cov19 virus,now we have this new one from Boswana?
And how do we know wearing a N95 mask even work anymore?
I see a lot of people with no mask,I assume they feel safe as they have been vacinated !

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That is exactly what I meant it provides a false sense of security although I do think that masks still only provide minimal protection personally

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the vaccinated should be the ones to worry as they are not able to create natural immunity and will have to take even more shots with questionable substances and hope for the best

masks have never worked against viruses , they are only needed for the infected so that they do not infect others. but you won't hear that on TV because if they reveal that in mass media everybody will be thinking they are not infected and won't be using masks (don't tell anyone , it is still a secret , pssssss!!!)

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damn,I just ordered more masks!

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How did you become one of the forums most powerful members?

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Agent is a 'powerful member'...?
What does that mean exactly?

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Lots of post I would assume?

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Then all behold the Mighty Jamesnorth!!!
:)

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Nickel and diming :) hah

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Ah that’s nothing when compared to Rsot the all powerful :canada: