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this does not change anything about the fact that the amount of casualties is tiny comparing to the overall people who were exposed which is nearly the entire population by now

furthermore there is a severe suspicion that lots of deaths WITH covid are written off as deaths FROM covid. keep in mind that many people die every day without any pandemic and since the entire population is exposed a large portion of the dead will have traces of covid , with many having an active covid infection

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Im sorry but that is the biggest load of $hit I have ever heard.

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if you want to know the cause of death you need to perform an autopsy

there is no way to tell the cause by any other means apart from obvious cases like shot in the head , even with people who were beaten up or had an accident it is not always obvious why they died. that is why there are so many court cases where details need to be requested from specialists as it is impossible to tell the actual cause of death just by looking at outside factors

so far I have not heard anything about mass autopsies

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Case by case basis

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Which proves how shallow minded you are. There are well documented cases where folk have died and covid has been declared as the cause of death when that categorically and indisputably isn't true - they died with covid.

You would have be be a complete plank if you weren't aware of the definition of what a covid death was but called everyone elses observations 'bull$hit'. You appear to be one of the aforementioned few. :lol:

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Are you for real, do you really believe there is a 'case by case' system in place in any civilised western nation?

You appear to be another who incredibly doesn't know the criteria that most countries are applying to declare covid as the cause of death.

Are you and slokor cousins?

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Whatever Hank.
Youre obviously a pandemic and Vax denier who is full of $hit so I put absolutely no stock in anything you have to say. Just another moron who keeps shovelling the crap, lies and misinformation around trying to make his nonsensical point. Good luck with all that douche.

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Why do you always resort to insults when someone challenges your limp-wristed take on matters?

The moderators have already warned you for this, why continue?

My guess would be you can see you're losing the argument and rather than re-think and discuss you thrown an insult tantrum. I feel sorry for you, get out of your bedsit and experience the real world. It's not that scary I promise you. :)

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Why does every pro experimental vax nut believe they have superior intelligence to the rest of the world simply because they believe the propaganda machine ?

If you were right about all this after 2 years the rest of us would be all dead by now.

I think subconsciously your all pissed off you fell for it and now want the rest of us to have it out of spite.

And I am not antivax. I do however refuse to take some rushed for profit injection that clearly has deadly an life changing side effects when the alternative is getting sick for a few days an being back to normal.

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There are a huge number of cases in which someone has passed away and COVID was on the death certificate even though its quite likely that isn't what they actually died from

It does skew the stats a lot

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Indeed there are. There is a well publicised case in the UK where a guy fell from a roof and smashed his skull in and they detected covid on him so that was on his death certificate. That is currently being legally challenged by the family as they refuse to amend it - sounds tooo ridiculous to be true.

Similar case in the US. Guy rides his motorbike into a tree and explodes into a thousand pieces. Death certificate due to a recent test.....covid. :shocked:

Fortunately for each of these ridiculously manipulated figures there is some good news. Nobody in the UK died of flu in January or February of this year....not one single recorded death. :d

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I think your mixing up people don't want the vax with people who deny covid exists. They are not one one and the same

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I got just one single word for you all - Whatever.
You do you and ill do me.
Im vaccinated and happy with it.
Im done responding to the nonsense and lies and misinformation being spread here. As far as Im concerned this thread should be shut down cause it is spreading completely false information when it comes to this pandemic and all that goes with it - by a bunch of people who claim to know 'facts' but in reality are a bunch of trolls who less than nothing.
Jamesnorth - shut this nonsense thread down for everybody's sake. It has no place in this forum.

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The thing is its not misinformation people who have died in car accidents have had covid on the death certificate. As well as people that have passed away from many other things have also had covid on their certificates.

In the UK its listed on the death certificate if their 'deaths is within 28 days of a positive test result'. No matter what the actual reason of death and it gets counted in the stats. IMO that just seems very odd and it does skew the data.

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FPMSL, you've contributed more than any other yet when JN101 calls you out you get the hump. Nobody forced you to read it let alone bombard it with posts.

And because you've had your fragile feelings hurt you want it pulling claiming it's in everyone's best interest. It isn't, it's in your best interest but want everyone else to comply. See any comparisons? The irony of your request isn't lost on me cupcake. :pound:

FYI this thread is in the 'conspiracy theory' section, your ramblings suggest it does have a place on this forum on that basis. :pound:

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We like to think. We like to read. We're into freedom of speech and freedom of choice.

Unlike Dr. Raymond Cocteau

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So, you think you're vaccinating us, huh? Guess what, not happening.
You tell Cocteau he can kiss my a**. Yeah, that's right, you tell Cocteau it's gonna take an army of ***holes to get rid of us

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You and logic just dont go together. You quite literally are the most ignorant troll on this thread, if not this forum. You should be banned for being dangerous IMO lmbo

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Lol. Havnt seen this many morons congregating on one thread in a long time.
Guess you just cant fight stupidity.

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What you may called idiots others would call analytical thinkers. All a matter of prospective but let’s try to steer clear of the name calling.

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I havn't read this entire thread, only just a part of it.

I can't believe Slokor is basically the only one defending vaccines. The vaccines work, it's saving lives and not getting one is selfish.

While you may feel it is "your choice" to not get one, your selfishness is directly hurting other. There are sick patients with pre-existing conditions that could not, and in some areas still cannot, get into the hospital for treatment due to the burden covid patients are putting on the healthcare system.

There are also people who would love to take the vaccine, but are unable to for health reasons. These people are extremely likely to have major health issue or die from covid, so they usually have to stay inside all day.

If an unvaccinated person (person A) takes time away from doctors, which then means they are unable to treat person B, and person B dies, then I fully blame person A for the death of person B.

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Youre wasting your time Speeder.
Im done wasting mine here.
Let these trolls think whatever they want. Not as if it makes any difference in the grand scheme of things anyway. The sane majority has spoken on the matter already so this small minority (no matter how loud they are) can troll all they want as it will have absolutely NO impact whatsoever.

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I disagree. This is how these people want to feel and be perceived as.

The analytical thinkers are the ones who can analyze data, look at trends and make accurate comparisons. That is usually the role of doctors, scientists and statisticians when it comes to healthcare data. Unless these people have spent time with the data, they are not analytical thinkers.

Unfortunately, people like to feel that they are smarter than anybody else and that they are special. In the US, we are brainwashed in schools since day 1 to feel special. Life simply doesn't work out that way for most people, so they need some method to feel special or intelligent. Arguing that they have figured out some great conspiracy, or that they are smarter than pharmaceutical companies, doctors and governments combined, allows for people to have that feeling of being special.

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Yea, I'm done here too. Good on you for trying.

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na na , there are too many signs the vaccines are an excuse to do something completely different. one of the latest signs is that CDC employees refuse to tell publicly if they got vaccinated and the CDC admitted publicly they don't have any proof that people with natural immunity spread the virus and that they estimate that about 40% of their own employees did not take the vaccines at all , also admitting they don't know even that for sure because CDC employees are not required to take the vaccine or report anything about it

so we have here what is really going on , the sheep take the vaccines and the people who know most about viruses don't

hell , if the vaccines would really be saving lives these people would be the first ones to line up for a shot and would be proud of telling everyone about it

continue taking shots , dear sheep...

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additionally I have to point out that it is not even real vaccines people have been taking because a real vaccine would provide immunity , at least for a certain period of time

and the immunized people would not need to fear the "dangerous" unvaccinated anymore. instead they do not promise immunity but just less probability of heavy cases after infection and the leading medical staff responsible for disease control refuse to take the vaccines

this alone is reason enough to stay away from this

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You people clearly leave out all the cases of death and life changing reactions to this so called vax. You refuse to even acknowledge it.
Why should healthy people and young children play Russian roulette with this experimental concoction.

If your vulnerable I understand your scared. But that does not give you the right to push this on everyone else in some guilt trip to make you sleep better.

Take some responsibility for yourselves. And take a break from the TV.

Again this is NOT Ebola or Aids gone airborne. If it was we would all wanting a vax.
It's another Flu. Nothing worse.
Inflate death stats. Add a scary name and everyone loses their minds.
If it was called Sniffles and the media shut up about it the world would be normal last 2 years

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Yet you keep regurgitating liberal media without any ounce of fact while calling us dumb for being educated, actually reading the manufacturers websites and claiming you are done for weeks and even months.
What a Troll!

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What an idiot.

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Thin Skin, You just cant control yourself. Your self esteem must be extremely weak. Probably that contaminated Pfizer vaccine? Naaaa you always been pretty weak and ignorant. At least for the near decade I have know you on here anyways. Your skin is like tissue. But to keep coming to these threads with intelligent people and argue without supplying any sort of evidence really proves how much of a Troll you are.

Watch, you will have another reply..... What is this, 1098th time you said you were done? lmbo

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Like I said - what an idiot.

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I'm a frequent traveller but since Covid started i've travelled more than ever 😅

When there's lockdown in one country, I disappear to another, during these times having multiple passports is a blessing.

I've spent very little time in any form of lockdown since this started, and even then there are always places open on the sly.

I'll be fcuked if I will take the vaccine, had it already, if I was not immune then I would have had it at least 100 times since I first got it, i've been here there and everywhere. They keep re-infection rates, and subsequent hospitalisations and deaths very quiet. Money money money, 1st jab, 2nd, 3rd

Oh well, see what the one-world totalitarian government will bring.

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The media do the same thing if they actually get someone on with a brain.
Heckle them without actual debate
:behindsofa:

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the insults coming from slokor are direct result of media brainwashing people into believing the fairytales of a deadly pandemic and miraculous rescue from it by taking multiple shots of an unknown substance every 6 months

nice story but it is only slightly related to what is really going on. covid is a flu , more infectious and more dangerous than the usual annual flu but it is still a flu and there will not be any vaccine against it , it will not disappear anywhere , there will not be herd immunity , new waves of the flu will be coming every year indefinitely

so the only way to go is developing natural immunity and stay away from any substances that are supposed to provide artificial immunity for a few months

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Not to be insensitive or anything but just think of all the money that Social Security and Medicare is saving!

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Oof - natural selection...

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it has always been natural selection unless there is a vaccine that clearly gives immunity. the so called vaccines provided now are just anti body boosters which do not prevent contraction and where it is impossible to tell what long term consequences will be

I am actually surprised how much the media managed to brainwash some people who really think if they take the vaccines and nothing happens to them now nothing will happen to them later. the same logic could be used by anyone using tobacco , alcohol , drugs , painkillers etc.

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natural immunity always wins

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That is the most simply way to describe this shot. They are Covid "like" antibody boosters that hardly even do that. I know thousands of people who had the jab who have had covid yet some people are still brainwashed that it prevents the spread. Every manufacturers that makes Covid like antibodies does not suggest such nonsense. I have no idea where people like Thin Skin even came up with this idea other than the media told them.

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Just went to the doctor's office to accompany my father, no relation to covid, but I asked the doctor if it's possible to see if my father have the natural antibodies, the doctor refused. Like dude, wtf, what are all scared of? I asked the doctor if it was possible that my father could've had covid, asymptomatic symptoms, and then developed natural antibodies without the vaccine.

At first the doctor asked he was vaccinated, we said no. She got all scared and said we don't look at the blood to see if there are antibodies unless he was vaccinated, lol, like dude, what are you all scared about? That he has natural antibodies?

Is it to continously push this vaccine mandate nonsense? Just relaying what happened at a typical doctors office today.