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What are your thoughts on the vaccine? Are you vaccinated? I'm fully vaccinated and I have my card

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:lol:

I swear, people on social media are getting on my phucking nerves with this card shiit. Like it's something to brag about, or something.

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Congrats OP :)

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I made a card but there's not a snowball's chance in hell I'm taking an experimental, unlicensed, "warp speed" vaccine when traditional vaccines go through years of testing before commercial production. I'm thankful for all the idiots posting their cards on social media as they help to keep forgeries up to date. Thousands of people have died already and not just from the "recalled" versions of the vaccine. It's utter insanity to me but people are going to do whatever their TV tells them to do. :noidea:


I mean.. even if it doesn't kill you in the first two weeks, nobody knows how this gene therapy is going to affect people in the long run. I'm no guinea pig. I prefer my immune system, I guess.

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Blame the trump admin/Russia for all the misinformation out there

lets assume everyone is going to have to get the vaccine at some point

If you travel, you'll likely eventually run into a destination that requires it

If you'll eventually HAVE to get one, you might as well get the best ones currently available, which is Pfizer and Moderna

All the others have less effectiveness and higher side effects

I had covid way back so I'm not too worried about getting it, but I travel frequently, so I'm more inclined to get one of the better ones

Also.... I do a lot of remote camping that usually has poor reception. The extra 5G coverage will no doubt come in handy :thumb:

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I'm trying to hold out and be the last person to catch covid/get a vaccine. That way I won't need it!

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I think if I were to start a conspiracy section here in this forum.. it would do really well!

I could talk about Aliens all day long. :)

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I work in medical as my main job and I'm still holding out against it...kind of in the same way as phaz - I feel my immune system is good in general

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Oh man.. I'll just have to refrain from posting on this part of the website. :lol:


Hats off to the 2k+ people the various vaccines have killed so far.



That's why I won't take it.



In 1976 there was a swine flu outbreak which freaked the public out like this. Big pharma did the same thing they're doing now and rushed out a vaccine. 25% of the population got the vaccine from April to December that year. By December it became apparent that the vaccine was causing Guillain-Barré Syndrome which led to a one month suspension of the vaccine program. During that time the head of the CDC was fired and replaced and the vaccination program never restarted.



We haven't learned from our mistakes. :mod: This is all a huge overreaction. Traveling really isn't that important to me.. I prefer rural settings anyway, lol.

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Sorry about the spacing. Firefox adds tons of extra lines and the forum won't let me edit that post.

One more thing though. The first thing you notice in the death data is that it's mostly old people. But keep in mind that old people were the only ones allowed to get the vax at first.



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I will be the last person on earth to get vac if it is forcibly compulsory and I fail to escape from it.

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I very much doubt I will take the needle.

If it means me losing some freedoms in life then so be it.

I had Covid already, nobody knows how long I will be immune for, despite what they say.

I have multiple passports and am also preparing citizenships for the future.

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Me and my kids wont take it. If they require it for them to go back to school my kids wont ever go back. If its required to fly we will do a lot of driving.

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Good luck with that...

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What if USA finishes building the wall around all the states and to cross state border whether flying, driving, walking, swimming there'll be a check point by the wall gate that requires the Vaccine card?

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Not out of the realm of possibility I suppose. Just make sure you laminate your card well for a good swim! =}-

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Awe...yes! Remote camping...there is nothing like the smell of campfire wood, an outdoors chair inclusive of a canopy and footrest pullout, and a cooler full of Miller Lite, Fireball and a couple of bottles of really dark 10 % craft beer!

.....im sorry, vaccine what????

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Yes, I am a remote camper too, and am fully vaccinated, as my employment requires me too. All good here!

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PFE said one will need getting shots,once a year /
Astra Zeneca vaccine has been banned permanently in some countries/
Wonder if this side effects issue has been exaggerated,I have come across a few who have no problem,but a few is not enough.
It also sounds like women have m or eproblem than men when it comes t o bloodclot

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They want to kill all of us faster so they can pay less social security. It was all planned from the beginning, plandemic as they call it. It's designed to cut down the traffic (which thankfully they did), but pay less in social security and send the robots after us. It's done! We're done like dinner! Get your iodine and selenium to protect yourselves folks!

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Then I guess he'll drive back the other way lol

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Ok so my conspiracy theory is out there for sure..people look at me funny when I start... so let the eye rolling sequence begin..

I am older 60's I refuse to take it for 2 reasons. It is weird that they started with the older population. The ones that will be getting SS benefits for which Biden is spending and printing $$ left to right and it's depleting everything, this debt will have to be paid with something.
I see this as a method of thinning the herd (older folks) this vaccine might start killing us in the next few years. This is why children are supposed to be 'immune' and younger people supposedly battle it better.

The other one it's Nazi Germany style of control..."Let me see your papers" we will be mandated to get the vaccine, remember is not only by State but also discretionary for stores, buildings any privately owned business as well, if you get sick with something else you will have to show your card and can be denied service, for this reason.
This card/ID will be mandatory for flying as well. Biden will say..C'mon people it's not in my hands, these are privately owned corporations I can't mandate their policies and blah blah...just be good little sheep, I mean patriots and get it.

We will have to start using like in Nazi Germany an arm band, issued by the government with a sku number..so invest in readers guys!

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So to 'thin out the herd' and to save all this money all the world's governments decided to band together and shut down all their economies costing lord knows how many trillions of dollars just so the US could save some money on Social Security payments to older people... less of whom will die with the vaccines? From the info posted earlier in this thread out of of literally hundreds of millions of doses administered so far there are just over 2,000 deaths related to it.
Sorry but that theory doesnt realy hold water wouldnt you agree?
As for flying - Biden can only make decision for the US. He doesnt control other countries in the world who now require proof of vaccination to travel to.
I realy wish the people coming up with conspiracy theories would take a step back and look at the BIG picture - the fact the whole world got shut down for a year - along with everything that goes with that (not least of which is the economic/financial impact).
By the way - I myself got my first dose last week and it couldn't come early enough. As soon as my kids can get it ill have them receive it as well and wont think twice about it. With any luck we'll be able to take a vacation to a hot spot destination by November and ill have a Pinacolada on the beach laughing at those refusing to help rid the world of this nuisance of a virus because of conspiracy theories.

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Over 245 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through May 3, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 4,178 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
From the CDC website today. That's just the numbers if you drink there cool aid. As long as the USA is a free country I will make my own medical decisions.

I personally know three people that have received it. Anybody over 16 can receive it without an apt here. To each there own.

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Of course to each their own.
But to those who decide not to take the vaccine - dont start crying about restrictions that will be placed on you if you choose not to take it.
Just cause you make that decision anyone else who HAS decided to take it should not be made to suffer the consequences of YOUR decision.
So when other countries decide NOT to let you in cause youre not vaccinated dont whine about. When you cant go to mass gathering type events or take a flight dont cry about it. When you run into any sort of logical restriction relating to fighting this pandemic dont complain about the fact that YOU decided NOT to do your part fighting this pandemic based on nothing but insane and ludicrous conspiracy theories.
Sorry but I find conspiracy theorists to be pretty sad people with too much time on their hands.

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By the way - you quote those figures of number of deaths they claim is related to the vaccine.
What about the numbers of dead relating directly to the virus itself?
The percentage of mortality among cases of people who contracted COVID 19 is over 1.78% whereas the percentage you yourself quoted was 0.0017%. If you dont get the vaccine do you doubt youll eventually get it? you realy want to take that chance?
Well if so go ahead and take that chance and suffer all the consequences that go along with that. I myself got the vaccine as I said and will have my kids get it when as soon as its available to them and will enjoy getting back to a more normal life with as little restrictions as possible.

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I am sure you've heard my body-my choice. You believe its rational to require everyone to take an experimental vaccine in order to engage in normal activities? Aren't you immune now from all of us outliers now that you got the shot? Isn't that the point of getting a vaccine. Now, we cant infect you
I didn't say I believe in insane and ludicrous theories. I am open minded and question everything that we are being told. I am not unlike many many others out there. We have been fed BS for almost a year and a half. Guess your right. Yeah, I'm not gonna just do my part and have my rights trampled.

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People with compromised immune systems should have always protected themselves. Everyone should have been given the choice to make there own decision.
I may have had covid. Not sure. I really don't care if I do get it.
That being said, a good friend of mine almost died because of it. He is in a high risk class.
It is not a certainty that this vaccine will protect you from getting covid again. Good luck getting that booster every year. Tons of stories out there. I will take my chances.
Pretty obvious we will not agree on much, but that's OK. You do you

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Your body - your choice - 100% true.
As long as YOUR choice doesn't impact MY health or MY rights. And unfortunately THAT is exactly the case when we talk about a GLOBAL PANDEMIC.
So with all due respect to your choice as long as there is the slightest chance of you infecting others (including me - even with the vaccine) I have no issue with your rights being restricted. You know what to do to remove those restrictions and from everything the research has shown of the effectiveness of the vaccine it is safer than all other options available at this point.
Or perhaps what we see now happening in India is just another big lie and another part of the conspiracy right?
Tell yourself whatever you want and believe in whatever you want and do whatever you want - but NOT at MY expense.
And I have no problem in getting a boost shot every year. Same as the flu shot. Welcome to the new reality friend. This is the way the world is now so better get used to it. And if you choose not get vaccinated don't complain about the restrictions that will protect the rest of us who got vaccinated from your (in my opinion foolish) choices.
BTW - no theres no guarantee you wont get COVID19 even with the vaccine - but it is now proven to prevent serious conditions, hospitalizations and death by pretty much 100%. Or are you again going to resort to the conspiracy theories that the whole world ganged together to lie about that? Again - conspiracy theorists are just sad people with too much time on their hands. They need to get a more productive hobby.

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Heres a snippet of info for the conspiracy theorists among us:
Israel dropped from more than 10,000 cases a day in mid January to less than 150 at the end of March due their vaccine rollout. Their economy is now fully open and yet the borders are closed for anyone from outside. Without proof of vaccine don't even bother thinking about getting in. Smart way of doing things - and it is now proven to work.
That's a FACT.
COLD HARD TRUTH.
So there is PROOF the vaccine works.
Your body your choice - NOT at my expense!

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I will not get vaccinated mainly because we do not have enough research on the long-term affects yet. Reports are now coming in that young men 18-45 now are 6 times more likely to develop heart disease and reports are now coming in droves from women who are experiencing lady part problems and irregular menstrual cycles. I have always been against vaccines of any kind. This one really scares me. But more importantly, I will not have ANYONE tell me what I can and can not do with my own body. So many lies coming from the current administration, I don't know what to trust anymore.

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Forget the administration - focus on the science and do your own research to make informed decision for sure

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...and how is that working out for Israel now, the most vaxxed nation with now the most deaths. No thanks.

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Work is a loose word there

You can be vaccinated and still catch it. Just reduced the chances of it being really bad.

There are reports of some pretty nasty side effects for both men and women coming out. Its a case of choosing your poison

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Their mistake was reopening without having the majority of the population vaccinated - and reopening without any safety measures in place. They went back to pre covid routine thinking it was all behind them.
Now imagine how theyd be if they were NOT vaccinated.
Again ill say to all the nay sayers - you do you ill do me. just stay the 'f' away from me if you decide to believe all the nonsense and you do not get vaccinated. The vaccine has more than proved itself as effective and Im very very happy to be living in a a sane area where a vaccine passport is mandated - going to a restaurant or a ovie and knowing for a FACT that everyone around me is vaccinated realy does put my mind at ease.

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Hell no. I'm young and healthy enough to withstand COVID. Unless there's a preventative vaccine, go away.

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Totally glazing over the point that the vaccine doesn’t actually stop you from catching covid? Just reduces the chance of you dying from it which if your under 60 are pretty minimal anyway. It does however like I mentioned have a lot side effects which are coming to light now.

All good and well being glad you got it, that’s great, but ignoring the fact that it doesn’t stop you from catching covid is a little naive honestly.

I’m far from a conspiracy theory theorists or an anti-VAXer but it is very important have the narrative from both sides. Just repeatedly ignoring the fact that the vaccine isn’t actually a vaccine is a little bit daft in my opinion

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I am proud to say that I have had all three jabs, they are not 100% as we all know, at least I know if I get a break through infection from COVID I have a good chance of surviving it.

The antivaxxers on here have a good chance of dying from COVID, I have had good strong friends die from it who would not vaccinate, it’s not pretty, most died after surviving it and were taken by complications caused by it. Anyone who would put their families through that are thoughtless souls. The fact is that COVID is here to stay, it will mutate just like the flu, all the unvaccinated will catch it, a small percentage will survive, a large amount will not.

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Just a link to an article today where parents were unvaccinated and left 5 children orphans

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...five-kids.html