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yotano211 01-17-2018 06:03 PM

Re: $8k - great entry point for BTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 895824)
You could power 12 American households for one full day with the amount of electricity it takes to complete a single BTC transaction. Decentralized? To an extent, but it's terribly inefficient.

https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption

I can power 3-4 houses with my ETH mining
http://i64.tinypic.com/2k07de.jpg

Play 01-18-2018 10:43 AM

Re: $8k - great entry point for BTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 895824)
You could power 12 American households for one full day with the amount of electricity it takes to complete a single BTC transaction. Decentralized? To an extent, but it's terribly inefficient.

https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption

You're right! :smash:

But then, I read an article which went into detail about the costs of running a centralised banking system.

It doesn't seem so bad then. ;)

phaz0rz 01-18-2018 11:31 AM

Re: $8k - great entry point for BTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 896008)
You're right! :smash:

But then, I read an article which went into detail about the costs of running a centralised banking system.

It doesn't seem so bad then. ;)

Source?

If you compare the amount of electricity used by the Visa card processing network to that used by BTC, Visa's use won't even show up on the chart.

https://s14.postimg.org/5icwcitj5/Untitled.png

Considering that nearly the entire planet runs off of the debt-based central banking system I would expect it to consume a fair amount of energy. Bitcoin is a novelty which can barely be used for anything, yet the Bitcoin system consumes more electricity daily than over 200 different countries. No way the central banking system comes close, plus Fiat currency is a commodity and is far from useless.

EDIT: I think it's also worth noting that all crypto's revolve around the central Fiat currency system they claim to be disrupting. The central banking system gives us the only thing we know as real currency. Real currency has to be spent regardless of how you initially get into crypto.

Anyway, going back to how BTC is depleting natural resources at an unprecedented rate. Say a Bitcoin buyer chooses to purchase 1 BTC. The Visa network uses maybe a total of 10 Watts to complete their side of the transaction. After that the BTC network consumes hundreds of megawatts to complete their side of the transaction. There's no comparison in terms of efficiency.

A lot of the people who were crying about the damage we're doing to the environment ten years ago are now some of BTC's strongest supporters. It's like everyone is willing to turn a blind eye to the negative aspects of crypto in order to hopefully get rich quick. I have a decent crypto portfolio - I'm far from a "no-coiner" - but at the same time I don't put blind faith into anything.

Play 01-18-2018 01:34 PM

Re: $8k - great entry point for BTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 896015)
Source?

I can't find the source... but here's a close article - https://www.bitsonline.com/bitcoin-v...s-uses-energy/

You're comparing Bitcoin to Visa. You've omitted every other aspect of a centralised banking system. Remember banks too have a huge network of servers etc. (all of which is consuming electricity).

Look - Bitcoin uses a lot of electricity, no doubt about it. Regardless of whether its more or less than the existing system we have for fiat, the fact is it's a lot. But I feel the technology used to mine/process BTC (given the heat it's been getting) will start to find ways to make it more environmentally efficient.

As for your point about use case of bitcoin, that's a tangent and open for debate. I treat it as a commodity (store of value), and I have done from the very first day I invested in it about a year ago.

I don't think bitcoin is perfect, but the fact that there's so much room for improvement, to me that indicates room for rise in value.

Elifkhan 06-25-2018 01:00 PM

Re: $8k - great entry point for BTC
 
8k is the 200 day moving average. We will be lucky if it gets that low. My magic 8 ball says not a chance in hell. But who knows.

slokor 06-25-2018 01:15 PM

Re: $8k - great entry point for BTC
 
Given that the price is currently hovering around $6200 your post makes no sense.
What was the point of reviving a 6 months old dead thread for this...?

empirestate 08-24-2018 12:03 PM

Re: $8k - great entry point for BTC
 

JamesNorth101 08-24-2018 12:07 PM

Re: $8k - great entry point for BTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by empirestate (Post 939245)
$3k is a great entry point

So is $2000

$1000 is even better

$500 is even even better

empirestate 08-24-2018 12:11 PM

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slokor 08-24-2018 03:56 PM

Re: $8k - great entry point for BTC
 
Hey look whos back! The guy whos got no bitcoin whatsoever (let alone talent or prospects) and is still living in mommy's basement.
Thanks you for returning to dispense more useless tidbits of moronic and misleading information.
All of us here missed the joke that you are! Welcome back dumbass! :)


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