The amount of scammers from China is ridiculous

[vmdetection]

I mean you go to any wholesale site like Alibaba etc and the site is full of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ scamming companies, it's a wonder how they're allowed to operate on there. The worst part is they almost always want to contact you offsite so there's no proof or liability on the websites part. It's a complete struggle to go through so many suppliers/wholesale websites and just scam after scam, so tiring. I really wonder how you guys find good reliable suppliers, especially from China who seem like a total gamble.

[anewlifehelen]

every country has scammers. I want to buy ebay account, but cheated by one austrialia man .

[rsot]

Originally Posted by anewlifehelen

every country has scammers. I want to buy ebay account, but cheated by one austrialia man .

You didnt use an authorized seller from here?

[phaz0rz]

It's because those companies are not quite state sponsored but encouraged to operate the way they do to maximize revenue. There's no such thing as "intellectual property" over there. Companies have to actually innovate in order to get ahead so competing firms constantly try to cut corners and undercut each other.

I've never been "scammed" by a Chinese vendor per se but you definitely get what you pay for.. always. Most Ali/DH sellers accept Paypal so just find one who takes Paypal. Don't use non-reversible payment methods until you've established a good relationship.. etc, etc.

The ironic part of it is that American companies are having tons of their IP stolen and re-sold yet they continue doing business in China because it's the only place in the world where there's a constant supply of slave labor.

[DENDEN76]

If it wasn't for the Chinese I wouldn't be making money. So god bless them

[vmdetection]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

It's because those companies are not quite state sponsored but encouraged to operate the way they do to maximize revenue. There's no such thing as "intellectual property" over there. Companies have to actually innovate in order to get ahead so competing firms constantly try to cut corners and undercut each other.

I've never been "scammed" by a Chinese vendor per se but you definitely get what you pay for.. always. Most Ali/DH sellers accept Paypal so just find one who takes Paypal. Don't use non-reversible payment methods until you've established a good relationship.. etc, etc.

The ironic part of it is that American companies are having tons of their IP stolen and re-sold yet they continue doing business in China because it's the only place in the world where there's a constant supply of slave labor.

Agree but really confused how alibaba is still so popular with the thousands of scamming companies on there who have only been registered less then a year. It seems to me alibaba does not care for buyers, and this kind of business model should not be feasible. Buyers being turned off because of your site being linked to being a scamming haven for chinese. ****ty website, no real checks on sellers, anyone selling a 2k item for peanuts should be instantly banned or manually reviewed. I want to order but it just seems like a total scam.

[DENDEN76]

Use alibaba as an online catalogue. Find what you need, contact the seller directly, tell them what you need and only pay via PayPal directly. Theres companies that can source and physically vet the products for a fee.

[vmdetection]

Originally Posted by DENDEN76

Use alibaba as an online catalogue. Find what you need, contact the seller directly, tell them what you need and only pay via PayPal directly. Theres companies that can source and physically vet the products for a fee.

I find it a bit weird that almost every chinese seller on there wants you to contact them on whatsapp or off-site even though it's specifically stated by alibaba that you should keep communication on-site so there is a record if anything was to go wrong. Very shady of them.

[newstart123]

Originally Posted by vmdetection

I mean you go to any wholesale site like Alibaba etc and the site is full of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ scamming companies, it's a wonder how they're allowed to operate on there. The worst part is they almost always want to contact you offsite so there's no proof or liability on the websites part. It's a complete struggle to go through so many suppliers/wholesale websites and just scam after scam, so tiring. I really wonder how you guys find good reliable suppliers, especially from China who seem like a total gamble.

you just need to know how to check there. I do not think that threre is a lot of scammers, it is not so easy and not so cheap to start selling on alibaba.

[Ray88]

hi,how do you know they are scammer?i guess they just want to save the commission and offer you the cheaper price.i run the aliexpress stores for 6 years,and i also work with lots of dropshipper ,we do good.if you can not trust in the supplier ,you can ignore them and find some supplier who want to make deal online,not offsite.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Ray88

hi,how do you know they are scammer?i guess they just want to save the commission and offer you the cheaper price.i run the aliexpress stores for 6 years,and i also work with lots of dropshipper ,we do good.if you can not trust in the supplier ,you can ignore them and find some supplier who want to make deal online,not offsite.

Research and testing - part of the supplier finding process

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by vmdetection

I find it a bit weird that almost every chinese seller on there wants you to contact them on whatsapp or off-site even though it's specifically stated by alibaba that you should keep communication on-site so there is a record if anything was to go wrong. Very shady of them.

Not that much worse than off eBay games that allow profits for shady sellers.

Then we don’t know any of them.

[eighteen]

they haven't a control for scammers because they are scammer too lol

[Luminary]

Every platform has their share of scammers. It's all about what you do to mitigate the risks.

[james_112233]

God bless the chinese. With out them I would be lining up at the job centre.

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by vmdetection

I mean you go to any wholesale site like Alibaba etc and the site is full of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ scamming companies, it's a wonder how they're allowed to operate on there. The worst part is they almost always want to contact you offsite so there's no proof or liability on the websites part. It's a complete struggle to go through so many suppliers/wholesale websites and just scam after scam, so tiring. I really wonder how you guys find good reliable suppliers, especially from China who seem like a total gamble.

If you stay on ALIBABA ,and buy from its sellers,you get ALI protection.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Luminary

Every platform has their share of scammers. It's all about what you do to mitigate the risks.

So true everywhere you go