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I truly hope one day that EVERYONE who got burned by ebay&paypal will gather all together and sue that son-of-bitch. one, two or even 10 is not enough, what if we gather the sellers from all over the globe? that's power.

let's file a giant class action lawsuit against these mofos.

I was doing fine until Ebay started their buyer protection crap. They kicked me because of 4 open claims in the last month. 2 were because a buyer was not marked as paid on EBAY's end! I had them marked as paid. Here is what she said in the non receipt claim.

"I contacted seller and they say I paid and items being sent but it don't show aything paid on my end. Can you please fix this for me"

She immediately closed this when I told her it would hurt me but alas, Ebay sucks!

F#$@ Ebay..."has one of us gone 12 months without being harassed"

That is like asking if someone has lived for the last year WITHOUT breathing...hahahah


Sorry, for the comments...but with the whole feeling of this post, it needed to be said once more.

I have been suspended for a stupid reason that was my fault, on 1 account. And a few test accounts, also trying stupid things, testing eBay's limits. But other than that my accounts have been unmolested for over a year now.

Nice going imjustme. From what I can gather from your posts your activities are very low risk.

4 month since I am on the forum and no problem on 3 accounts. YEAH:clap:

hi first time on here and i'm glad at last i've found you guys, i think i have the fastest ebay/paypal account suspension!! i opened a hsbc business account with debit card etc set up the paypal bought a few items to get a couple of feedback then received an 800 euro payment from a previous customer for a non-ebay related item and within 24 hours was closed down on paypal and ebay. Spoke to them both on phone and was told there was suspicious activity! I explained the deal and was willing to supply all emails relating to the 800 euros source etc but as i'm sure you guys all know... Nothing. That is the 3rd account i have had closed in the past 12 months (2 of which were 300+feedbacks with 98-99%feedback) All using different addresses bank accounts etc Like you guys i was just trying to be an honest upfront seller make a bit of money and have a reasonable quiet life but they just don't want that, it pains me bewilders me that they do this, so i've found you guys and will try again.

All i can is ditto! 400+ 99.8% feedbck. no complaints but did have a disgruntled buyer who didnt read the postage options which i think may have been the cause - ebay suspended/not registered user - no explanation - paypal frozen money 180days, no other form of income...mortgage arrears, ccjs... blah blah blah..will be buying steath book as soon as i can afford it to get back on ebay/paypal and try to turn it all around before i lose the house! its a race against time!!!!

>>>WOW how inspirational... I remember making 1k a week on ebay a year ago which really helped me get my finances straighten out... I loved doing all the tasks of working for myself as you mentioned above, but never got to you level sounds amazing.

agreed! my pp account had a few thousands at the time I got suspended. Silly me... but when what you do is legit, I didnt think to clean it out.. Not to mention over 4K worth of products we sent to a french frog who claimed he did not receive the goods when online tracking showed otherwise...
its like dealing with robots with eb and pp, all they send you is the rule book cut and paste and off you go, leaving your hardearnt money behind.

I am really glad that you are back earning money now. I know how difficult it is to have a loss of income. I am not lying when I tell you I was making between 5-10K a week on average at our peak.

Good on Aspkin and the forum!

Ever since the new year...has anyone gone 2 months WITHOUT being limited? I mean all my accounts get limited within 30-60 days. Thank God I know how to recover every one of them and make em stronger...but STILL!!!

no one touches me lol :focus: seems like vero gets you kicked off faster, do the right thing everyone, just do the right thing :pout:

Yeah, depends what you sell. For me, i have 1 account that's about 7 or 7 months old.It just hit PS which is a red flag. But, i changed his product lineup to something that works better/safer ;)

we all complain about feebay/ppal but what do we do?
 

just been reading this thread for a laugh!

i really feel for all these peeps on here who've been shutdown for no reason, just as i was myself!

and we all scream and shout till we're all black n blue in the face, but does it affect feebay or ppal? No!

and ok, we all push for everyone to buy the stealth book and get back onto feebay again, but, with all due respect to aspkin and all the extremely ahrd work that has been put into the stealth book etc....that is not the way to do it!

by constantly devising ways to bypass ebay radars etc, we are just running around in the same old vicious circles as before, getting banned, up n running again with a new account, banned again, up again, down again, blah, blah, blah...ad infinitum...

surely the way forward is to destroy the monster that is feebay/ppal, and i mean absolutely decimate them with claims, and then maybe, just maybe, we might all be able to start all over again, making decent money for our kids and families, without all the fuss and threats which we ahve to live under nowadays if we are still trading with them.

no offence meant to anybody on here, just my humble opinion.

if "the enemy" surf this site, then....
 

just wondering about that comment...

if the enemy are surfing this site for clues on how to plug the gaps, then we ahvent really won at all, have we?
by "we" i mean us feebay/ppal users.

if they are really monitoring this site and maybe others like it, then one day, isnt it possible that 99.9% of the loopholes existing now will eventually be closed up?

and then what do we do?

see what i mean by my previous post, about constantly devisng ways to beat the enemy?

one day, and possibly by reading the clues on this forum, they will ahve plugged all the holes!

and then what?

no--IMHO the way forward is to destroy them duo forever. then maybe one of the existing competitors, or a brand new one, can come forward as a worthy successor to feebay.

this seems to be a cat n mouse game to me, where the cat is getting increasingly clever, and the mouses (or meeces!) are getting more stupid by the day...

Sell on ebay only when you have to
 

You all are making good points but the point is WE ARE HURTING EBAY AND PAYPAL. I have listed over $2,000 worth of items on Amazon and other sites this week. On Ebay I have listed only 2 items. So, YES WE ARE HURTING THEM because they are not making much money off of us. We are focusing on more long term solutions like building Amazon, Bonanza, Ecrater, Etsy, local flea markets, consignment stores, Your local newspaper free ad section and other sites and our own websites so we can make money in peace. Ebay and paypal has screwed all of us here and yes we are screwing them back in many ways. I make new ebay accounts and paypal accounts and only use them when I need to use them which is very little. They feel the pain and they will feel more pain. Everytime they stole money from me I did what I had to do to get it back from them. Ebay/paypal is evil and you dont play fair with them you have to take from them what they take from you and then some. Sound off people! Go make money! Ebay/Paypal can kiss my rump.

i agree where ur coming from, dude!

what i meant was that fine, we're making up all these stealth accounts and making decent money, which is good. but why bother with feebay/ppal at all?

why dont we all just get together, and raise such a ruckus, in the media, etc and dump so many claims onto both the companies, that they just collapse under the sheer strain of it all, never to be seen again.

once that happens, then sure, we can all start using ebid, amazon, bonanzle etc etc.

as i see it presently, yes, we're making some money, perhaps not as much as we used to, with feebay/ppal but we are still allowing them to live and breathe....what we need to do is to cut off their air and let them suffocate.

by using them, whether by stealth or otherwise, we are still giving them revenue, which is all they want, and as for traders who have left them? they dont give 2 f...ks who's gone....as long as they still have revenue coming in!

and as for feebay/ppal kissing your rump, well pardner, i totally agree with you there...they can kiss mine too.....hehe :)

I agree I agree
 

Some of us had to gradually get away from ebay..it was hard road at first because some of us had never made money that quickly before. if you ask me you can make money faster on the other sites. toomany complainers on ebay and its a waste of time. they wont leave feedback so you can get back either.
I do use the blogs, the newspapers to blast ebay and paypal every chance I get. I hit them in the stomach a number of ways.
Lets work together guys. collaborate more and make this money. Get rich, easy money. most of us have made a way out of no way. Now lets take it to the highest level.

destroy feebay and ppal
 

totally agree with you!

thats the way forward....and thats what my rants are all about!

fair enough; we're using aspkin's forum to sound off, so all good dues to him; he deserves a good mention again and again.
aspkin has done a fantastic job in getting together the stealth guide, which has enabled possibly millions of people to get back to selling on feebay and putting some bread on the table.

but thats not the way forward...the way forward is to destroy feebay and ppal totally.
grind them into the ground from which they sprang up all those years ago.

make them feel the sorrow, the total helplessness of the millions of perfectly legit traders out there, from all walks of life and from all countries, whom they have s..t upon.

that omidyar guy who first brought feebay into life, did not envision ebay to be such a megalithic monster that it has become, with rules and regs changing whenever it feels right.

i agree with you that you CAN make money outside of feebay, by knocking up your own website or maybe using other auction sites, but it does take a long time and an awful amount of hard work publicising your website etc via blogs, forums etc etc, but in the end, all the hard work will come to fruitition.

somebody also said on here that all those of us who still trade on feebay, whether by using stealth or otherwise, are absolute hippocrites, on the one hand screaming foul about feebay, then going back and trading on it!

i agree with that too, but, as many of us will say, what else can you do when getting the same amount of sales elsewhere takes ages, and on the other hand you have get food on the table for your family and kids as fast as possible?

at the moment, we really have no choice, and the half-wits at feebay know that there is no other site out there where traders can make as much money, and quickly, than feebay.

but we all CAN change that....lets get together and devise some sort of mega-plan to act en-masse, whether by law action, stopping trading on feebay or whatever...anything that will destroy feebay.

of course people will say about me....well, what about you then? why are you talking about getting back on feebay, while telling everyone else to get away from them?

the answer is yes, as i said above...at the present time, i can think of no other alternative that can generate fast money as feebay, even tho ive been watching ebid, priceminister, blujay, bonanzle, mvp traders, epier, ecrater, ebidz, play.com etc etc......they all do generate sales, but not as much as the enemy.

but perhaps if we all act together, we can change stuff, and the enemy will be thing of the past hopefully one day not far away.......

I am new victim of dsr system.

if you sell slowly and have an account aging for a while with true info, then i cant see any problems arising. i have an account that i sell many high risk items but never suspended, just temporarily on hold once.

So far - your time will come!!!
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