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james13v 05-18-2017 11:49 AM

Re: Seller Blocking My Bids on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 847855)
Wrong. Definitely wrong. Keep on reading friend.



Youre comparing oranges and apples.
Helping people to get back to sell on ebay is nothing like this situation.
In my case youre dealing with a faceless multi billion corporation (and its bots) who has unreasonable policies in place that in most cases suspends people and hurts their livelihood for no good reason. That's wholly on the seller side of things.
This situation is wholly on the buyer's side of things. In THIS case youre talking about a seller - an individual who works for his livelihood - who has agreed to deal with the OP quite a number of times and after things didn't work out more than once twice or three times has decided he doesn't want to do business with him again.
If I have a store and my landlord decides to terminate my lease for whatever reason I can go and rent another store down the street. If someone comes into my store and gives me crap about something he bought time and time again I WILL REFUSE TO SERVE THEM AGAIN! If that seller then comes in again wearing a disguise I might sell to him if I don't recognize him (or kick him out if I do) but ill definitely know its him if he complains yet again.
I don't understand why youre having such a difficult time seeing this.
And OP - WHY on earth are you trying to force someone to sell to you when they sold you faulty goods several times and now tell you theyre not even interested in your business? Do you know how poorly this situation portraits you?

Keep rationalizing it all you want. I mean no offense by this, but you couldn't be more bias. You're an accounts seller. The day you come on here and agree with me, I'll eat my shorts.


And you have no idea who the seller is. Could be a huge company. There are people here that pay $30,000 in FEES a MONTH, on ONE account. You might view ebay as faceless, and couldn't care less ( which I agree), but that doesn't change the facts. The situations are the same. Your moral views of the situation are the only thing different. You're making the same argument as every single shoplifter on the planet. " oh but it's target, they have enough money. I'd never steal from a person tho!!".

Yeah, ebay is ****ty. Yeah, ebay suspends people for no reason. But guess what. Sellers are ****ty too. They lie. They cheat. They steal. And they ban people that have REAL grievances towards the seller, because they are too chicken **** to own up to their own faults in selling, or abuse the selling platform to sell junk. I can't even count the amount of times I've bought something, described as excellent condition, and it looked like someone ran over it with a truck.

dallis 05-18-2017 09:29 PM

Re: Seller Blocking My Bids on eBay
 
James13v, your advice is always great, and I understand what you're saying, it's just that I'm personally willing to take a large amount of **** from regular buyers before I cut them off.

And I purchase everything I sell, so I know exactly what's it's like to be a buyer as well, and I want a trouble-free, honest transaction on both ends.

This guy seems like the proverbial burned out light bulb - it only takes one guy to unscrew it but the bulb has to WANT to change.

I truly do hope it all goes well for him, and I wish him good luck, and he needs to remember people mostly make their own luck.

Mostly I'm hoping to convince him this is serious business, and he truly needs to change his ways. :)

slokor 05-18-2017 10:12 PM

Re: Seller Blocking My Bids on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 847944)
Keep rationalizing it all you want. I mean no offense by this, but you couldn't be more bias. You're an accounts seller. The day you come on here and agree with me, I'll eat my shorts.


And you have no idea who the seller is. Could be a huge company. There are people here that pay $30,000 in FEES a MONTH, on ONE account. You might view ebay as faceless, and couldn't care less ( which I agree), but that doesn't change the facts. The situations are the same. Your moral views of the situation are the only thing different. You're making the same argument as every single shoplifter on the planet. " oh but it's target, they have enough money. I'd never steal from a person tho!!".

Yeah, ebay is ****ty. Yeah, ebay suspends people for no reason. But guess what. Sellers are ****ty too. They lie. They cheat. They steal. And they ban people that have REAL grievances towards the seller, because they are too chicken **** to own up to their own faults in selling, or abuse the selling platform to sell junk. I can't even count the amount of times I've bought something, described as excellent condition, and it looked like someone ran over it with a truck.

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree then.
You making all these claims about me being biased are a bunch of garbage. You dont know me. You dont know what I do for a living. You know absolutely nothing of my personal ebay selling practices and THAT is a fact.
Ive had to deal with good buyers and Ive had to deal with a minority of crappy buyers and when I come across a REAL crappy buyer I block them. I had a few situations where these crappy (and now blocked) buyers tried to pull this same exact stunt and the first time they do it I allowed it explaining to them the next time they do it Ill keep their money and not send a thing. Ive actually done that a couple of times as well - then after WINNIG the disputes they filed I refunded their money anyway - cause it was about making a point (one they got).
So dont come preaching to me about my morals and comparing THIS situation to how I HELP people in getting back on ebay. Harassing a fellow seller VS helping other sellers sell again are two VERY different things no matter how you try to color it friend. What I do and what OP wants to do are two VERY DIFFERENT things - and a majority of the readers of this thread agree with me - despite everything you say and think about it.
You talk about $hitty sellers. Yes there are plenty of them - BUT ITS OP WHO INSISTS ON DEALING WITH THIS GUY!!! And its this $hitty seller who is telling him NO!!! which part of that are you not getting?!
By the way - you comparing me (and by extension every other account and service seller in the seller section) to a shoplifter is quite offensive and I do believe that I (and the rest of the sellers) am owed an apology. Im not stealing from ebay - if anything Im generating more business for them by allowing people to use their platform again. But somehow you dont strike me as the type to get that or to admit to his mistakes let alone apologize for them.
Now I - like the OP - am done with this thread. I dont give two $hits what you think of me (and the other sellers apparently) but you should rethink your attitude cause the words you wrote were just wrong and offensive (and writing 'no offense' doesnt change that fact).

dallis 05-20-2017 03:39 PM

Re: Seller Blocking My Bids on eBay
 
Wow, this got a bit overheated, time to calm down! :)

We can disagree with each other and still be polite, and still be friends, we're all on the same side here.... I think! :)

james13v 05-21-2017 05:28 PM

Re: Seller Blocking My Bids on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 848006)
Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree then.
You making all these claims about me being biased are a bunch of garbage. You dont know me. You dont know what I do for a living. You know absolutely nothing of my personal ebay selling practices and THAT is a fact.
Ive had to deal with good buyers and Ive had to deal with a minority of crappy buyers and when I come across a REAL crappy buyer I block them. I had a few situations where these crappy (and now blocked) buyers tried to pull this same exact stunt and the first time they do it I allowed it explaining to them the next time they do it Ill keep their money and not send a thing. Ive actually done that a couple of times as well - then after WINNIG the disputes they filed I refunded their money anyway - cause it was about making a point (one they got).
So dont come preaching to me about my morals and comparing THIS situation to how I HELP people in getting back on ebay. Harassing a fellow seller VS helping other sellers sell again are two VERY different things no matter how you try to color it friend. What I do and what OP wants to do are two VERY DIFFERENT things - and a majority of the readers of this thread agree with me - despite everything you say and think about it.
You talk about $hitty sellers. Yes there are plenty of them - BUT ITS OP WHO INSISTS ON DEALING WITH THIS GUY!!! And its this $hitty seller who is telling him NO!!! which part of that are you not getting?!
By the way - you comparing me (and by extension every other account and service seller in the seller section) to a shoplifter is quite offensive and I do believe that I (and the rest of the sellers) am owed an apology. Im not stealing from ebay - if anything Im generating more business for them by allowing people to use their platform again. But somehow you dont strike me as the type to get that or to admit to his mistakes let alone apologize for them.
Now I - like the OP - am done with this thread. I dont give two $hits what you think of me (and the other sellers apparently) but you should rethink your attitude cause the words you wrote were just wrong and offensive (and writing 'no offense' doesnt change that fact).

Words are only offensive, to the person taking offense. You clearly, are offended. And no, I will not apologize. You very much judged the OP and gave them a lot of ****. I don't see YOU apologizing. I've done nothing to apologize for.

Yeah, I'll compare you to shop lifters IF you're rationalizing it the way you are. I don't see other sellers doing this, so no extensions needed. I buy accounts. I don't give a crap what happens to ebay. That would be like calling myself a shop lifter, which is silly. But unlike you, I"m not trying to rationalize it. I know I'm breaking ebay policy.

But YOU are trying to claim, that all of that is ok, because ebay is a big faceless company, so it doesn't matter what you do. Which is exactly what shop lifters say. Word for word. I've known plenty. So take offense all you want, but that is the exact same rationalization that you're doing. And you're on your moral highhorse, looking down at the OP, because they want to get another ebay account so they can continue buying. But having another ebay account, to continue selling? That's totally alright! That's as hypocritical as it gets.

And yeah, you're biased. It doesn't matter what the rest of your life is. You sell accounts for a living. Asking you to admit that lying to ebay and going against ebay policy, is a moral gray area, wouldn't net me anything. Would be like asking a drug rep, if taking meds is ok. Bias. It's not an insult. It's a fact of life. Everyone is biased about the things they are heavily involved in. Would be silly to claim otherwise.

What's sad is, with the type of attitude you've shown here, looks like I'm going to have to find a new seller to buy my upcoming account from, as it doesn't seem like you'd want to deal with someone like me.

james13v 05-21-2017 05:35 PM

Re: Seller Blocking My Bids on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 848005)
James13v, your advice is always great, and I understand what you're saying, it's just that I'm personally willing to take a large amount of **** from regular buyers before I cut them off.

And I purchase everything I sell, so I know exactly what's it's like to be a buyer as well, and I want a trouble-free, honest transaction on both ends.

This guy seems like the proverbial burned out light bulb - it only takes one guy to unscrew it but the bulb has to WANT to change.

I truly do hope it all goes well for him, and I wish him good luck, and he needs to remember people mostly make their own luck.

Mostly I'm hoping to convince him this is serious business, and he truly needs to change his ways. :)


I appreciate all that from you.

I also purchase everything I sell, so we are both coming from the same type of thinking.

Like I said, I'd probably ban the OP too. I'm only defending him, because people are being very hypocritical about all of this, and railing on him. We do not have enough information. Does the seller sell 100,000 items a month? Do they not have the time or care to look at what they are selling? Is the OP doing this all the time? Hell, they are even willing to not open any more returns, even if justified. I sure as hell wouldn't agree to do something like that. He clearly is saying he's going to change his ways. But again, I don't see what the problem is, with doing returns. What, because he's a fellow ebay seller, he gets to get away with selling things to people not as described?

All I'm saying is, it sounds like the seller ( from what has been said at least) sells a lot of stuff, the buyer buys a lot of stuff, and every now and then, the seller sells something not as described. Should the buyer just eat it? I was in the OP's shoes, so I'm also biased, and pretty jaded towards the people on this forum. There is an obvious bias towards sellers here. Having to defend myself against the people on here, because I was upset that a seller sold me counterfeit items, is rediclous.


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