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Seller Blocking My Bids on eBay
 

Hey everyone,

Need your help. I purchased a LOT of items from a certain eBay seller (new open box stuff). Some of their items had issues, so I would request returns on them (damaged, etc).

I was buying from this seller for about 4-5 months. But just this past week, they decided to block my bids as they "couldn't meet my expectations." No warning. No messages. They just blocked me. I've tried to reconcile and help come up with a creative solution that works for both parties (even when I'm not the one at fault. Their descriptions are inaccurate at times). But they still have me blocked.

Regardless, I would really like to continue to bid and buy from this seller. And I even agreed to not open any more returns on future purchases...but they said the block is final. And won't let me bid anymore.

So here's where I need help. I'm looking to create another eBay account (and I guess another Paypal account too?). If I start bidding with this seller under the new name, will eBay link the accounts? Or does it not work that way?

What's the best way to go about this so I can bid with this seller again?

I promise to not open any returns with them under the new username. :)

Thank you for your help and insight!!

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Honestly I would've taken the same action against you so I can't blame the seller, lol.

Aspkin forum wisdom has always said eBay does not link buyer accounts, only seller accounts. So you can just make a new Ebay and Paypal and start buying again. Chances are the seller is using software to automate postage so they won't notice if you start having orders on your new account shipped to the same address as your last account.

Just make sure you use a different payment source on the Paypal side.

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As sellers (and Im sure many will agree with me here) - we reserve the right to choose who we do business with. If doing business with a particular buyer is not economically viable, most sellers will choose to part ways. Sellers do not need to ask for a buyers permission, nor notify you that they no longer wish to deal with you.

Instead of being a pest, you should consider finding an alternative seller.

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I know I know. Sigh. Looking back on it. I regret it. Hindsight is always 20/20. I sell on eBay as well...so I understand the rationale behind why they chose to do it. I just thought we could work towards a creative solution. But I guess not.

One other question concerning the new Paypal account I create. Can I transfer money between my old one and new one just to have funds to buy items with? Will that cause any linkage?

Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.

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You will very quickly link the two accounts by transferring funds in that manner.

That's why I recommended adding a new and unique payment source to your new Paypal. You shouldn't even consider transferring money from other accounts if you want your Paypal's to last.

Open a new checking account with your bank if you need to, then attach the new debit card to your new Paypal. Then you can withdraw funds from your old Paypal to bank account A, transfer the funds from bank account A to bank account B, and then purchase with bank account B's debit card.

Know what I mean?

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Yeah, I got you. Whew. Thanks for that. Saved me a lot of heartache. :)

What about the address I use in Paypal? Does that matter? Or just the payment source needs to be completely different?

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There's honestly not very much information in RE to that since the forum is mainly geared towards sellers. Personally though I have orders shipped to my house from 15+ different Paypal accounts and I've never had linkage issues. I simply modify my address a bit on each account. I'll use a different business name (doesn't necessarily need to be an actual business), add "Front porch" or "Apt 1" to the 2nd address line, or something minor like that so I'm not using exactly the same address on all my accounts.

It works. :thumb:

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Ever hear of a Rental box? also known as P.O. Box.....come in handy.

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Definitely an option but there are cheaper ways to go about it. I would consider a PO Box for returns on a full-time selling account. For a buyer account though I would just change up my address a little. eBay and Paypal do not actively seek out and link buyers accounts. ;)

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Last thing.

Technically, it's a seller/buyer account that I currently have. I will be creating a new eBay buying account and new Paypal account with it.

Since I sell on my current one, that won't cause any linking issues between the two, right?

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Again I can't say for certain but it's never been a problem for me. I have my home address configured as the return address on my biggest selling account. I use the same address (slightly modified though) as my shipping address when I'm ordering shipping/office supplies from other smaller stealth Paypals. So I've been doing the same thing you're describing for over 3 years without problems.

You can always play it safe and get a UPS store box or PO box. Not the route I would take though.

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Nothing against ebay policy in what you've written. Doesn't matter if they link them. It's ok for them to be linked. They will get linked. You aren't selling anything on it. Just buying stuff. They even recommend it for you to get another account to buy stuff. I've been pretty stupid with using my main account to buy stuff, but I'm lazy.

Open a new account, and buy using that account, and using the same paypal account. If you're worried about them noticing your address, get a PO box. All very simple.

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Actually using the same paypal will immediately show the seller hes dealing with the same person - unless ALL the info on that paypal is changed including the shipping address (which will need to be confirmed) and a new email address.
Not worth the hassle.
Id just find a new seller. As a seller myself I know that if someone tries to circumvent my policies it upsets me to no end.

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going stea.lth just to aggressively purchase from one seller tells me you caused this seller a lot of problems...ive blocked tons of people like you. then you admit to begging the seller to not block you if you agree to stop doing returns...just red flags for you all around.

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You can set the shipping address, to wherever, in the ebay checkout page. I have like 10 different address in my ebay checkout. Doesn't matter what your paypal address is set to.


New email address, maybe. But that depends on how far the seller will go in finding out who he is. As a seller, unless I have a big problem, I have no reason to research the email address of the paypal account I'm selling to, let alone remember an email address.

It's really a lot less hassle than it seems. Only if a problem arises, will anything actually matter. And if it does matter, well, THEN you can move on to a new seller.

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Just do your thing Mr. Josh. Haters gonna hate but something tells me you're going to continue purchasing from this seller regardless.

I agree with James about adding shipping addresses in eBay, and not necessarily "confirming" them in Paypal. Like I said most sellers at this point use software to automate postage. So unless the seller is selling some seriously high value items, it's very unlikely they would actually login to Paypal and check your address.

@OP - Just please stop being a hassle to the seller. We all sell here and we all hate @$$hole buyers.

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In his defense, we all also hate @$$hole sellers. Tho some of us might be @$$hole sellers lol.

If this seller is genuinely messing up a lot with his descriptions, can you really blame the buyer for returning stuff? I've bought 1000's of items on ebay. The amount of sellers that sell me crap, is astounding. Large sellers. Perfect feedback sellers. Nothing like what their description states. Buy enough stuff, and you run into these problems. He just happens to buy a lot from the same guy. I probably wouldn't want to sell to him either... But one has to ask themselves, " is the buyer actually right? Or is he just a douche?".

I can't say whether the buyer is being too nit picky tho. That might also be the case. I don't know. Just giving my 3 cents.

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I've learned my lesson. No more heartache for this seller. I'll be a good and respectful buyer (even if the item isn't as described).

Thanks for everyone's help. I think it will be safest to create a new buyer account (just to be safe since not a lot of research has been done on this area).

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I've been blocked by sellers, that got upset because I wanted a return, when they straight up lied in their listing. Sellers never want to admit fault, it seems... Even one tiny problem, and you can be blocked by a seller. Some don't want to deal with ANY problem at all, whether or not they were at fault. Can't blame them sometimes tho. We've become very jaded by ebay against buyers.

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This seller lists liquidation stuff in mass quantities. So they aren't always providing the most accurate description and photos. So my returns were pretty valid. Always provided pics, info, etc that provided support. I think I just need to understand that there will be issues with the stuff I buy from this seller (just how it is).

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you still cannot change the name on the account. And from my own experience I tend to remember the more troublesome buyers Ive had to deal with. In this case it sounds like the seller will definitely remember the name of this specific buyer since he bought many many times from him AND cause no small amount of trouble.

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If this is the case then why go through al this trouble to force a seller to deal with you after he said in a very absolute manner that he does NOT want to do business with this buyer any more?

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And how many of these sellers did you go out of your way to try to do business with again? by resorting to stealth techniques no less?
Its the seller's right to choose who he sells to and who he doesn't wish to do business with any more. Trying to force him to do business with you is wrong. That's just how I see it.

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Although you come across as nice and reasonable here, you're trying to force this guy to sell to you by lying to him, which is just more of the same stuff that got you cut off in the first place.

I think you should go somewhere else and consider this a lesson learned.

He's blocked you, and that's a very clear message.

He's telling you "GO AWAY!!!! DON'T COME BACK!!!!" and you JUST WON'T GO AWAY.

He's saying he doesn't want your money under any conditions. Wow, just wow.

Try showing some respect, which is something you didn't do before, and clearly still haven't learned now.

Your behavior by trying to hide your identity is the very definition of being a BAD BUYER.

Just sayin' :)

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It is a complicated situation. :) Read the other posts above. I'm not a bad buyer. He is kind of a bad seller by not accurately detailing the items he is selling. I requested too many returns? Shouldn't that motivate him to provide more accurate listings?

I really have been open and communicative with him on this whole process. Even trying to provide creative alternatives by not requesting any future returns to help his seller metrics. And that's what I going to do going forward so it doesn't bother him anymore.

Everybody wins! :)

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You say that to him. But you can say that to most of the ebay sellers on here....

See how that works?

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Why go through all the trouble to sell on ebay when they clearly said in a very absolute manner that they do not want to do business with you?

Because sometimes, there are no other alternatives. Sometimes a seller has a product you need, that no one else offers. I couldn't give a crap if they banned me, for some stupid reason, which it usually is. If I need something they are selling, I need something they are selling.

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If a seller sells something thats inaccurate then I wont be back...
As a seller who gets complaints from the same customer(s) I wont sell to them...

This is a business...not a friendship ring..:violin:

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Sounds like your next step in this situation (if you were the OP) would be to threaten the seller with multiple bogus negative feedbacks if he doesn't agree to sell to you.
No disrespect but the world doesn't revolve around you. If someone doesn't want to sell to you then you trying to FORCE them to sell to you is just plain wrong. No two ways about it.
And OP - there is nothing complicated about this situation. You pissed off the seller and he doesn't want anything to do with you anymore. Pretty simple situation. YOU are trying to complicate matters by forcing him to sell to you and going stealth to try to accomplish this. Mess things up and the seller will know its you and report you to ebay - so yes your original account CAN and WILL get linked to this situation and Theresa good possibility youll lose it as well for circumventing eBay's policies.

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Stop giving advice to this guy, no need to fuel another annoying ebay buyer with knowledge.

Every now and then I have an annoying customer complain about stupid crap, give me a hard time, make unreasonable demands. They get blocked real quick. Why? Because if they aren't able to buy there's 10 other people that will and they won't give me a hard time.

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...this escalated quickly...

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You're still ignoring the HUGE pink elephant in the room. Your entire business is predicated on creating accounts, for people that pissed off ebay, and to force ebay to list your stuff.... If you can explain to me, how your morals some how allow you to overlook that, yet at the same time, feel personally insulted by someone wanting to buy from a seller that banned them. If ebay doesn't want to do business with you, why are you forcing them? :cheer:

And IT'S NOT AGAINST EBAY POLICY, so he can report to ebay all he wants. Show me somewhere that prevents a buyer from buying from someone, on their buyers account, when their sellers account is banned.

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nail on the head.

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Wrong. Definitely wrong. Keep on reading friend.

Youre comparing oranges and apples.
Helping people to get back to sell on ebay is nothing like this situation.
In my case youre dealing with a faceless multi billion corporation (and its bots) who has unreasonable policies in place that in most cases suspends people and hurts their livelihood for no good reason. That's wholly on the seller side of things.
This situation is wholly on the buyer's side of things. In THIS case youre talking about a seller - an individual who works for his livelihood - who has agreed to deal with the OP quite a number of times and after things didn't work out more than once twice or three times has decided he doesn't want to do business with him again.
If I have a store and my landlord decides to terminate my lease for whatever reason I can go and rent another store down the street. If someone comes into my store and gives me crap about something he bought time and time again I WILL REFUSE TO SERVE THEM AGAIN! If that seller then comes in again wearing a disguise I might sell to him if I don't recognize him (or kick him out if I do) but ill definitely know its him if he complains yet again.
I don't understand why youre having such a difficult time seeing this.
And OP - WHY on earth are you trying to force someone to sell to you when they sold you faulty goods several times and now tell you theyre not even interested in your business? Do you know how poorly this situation portraits you?

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For the record - no one is telling OP not to try to do things stealth. BUt understand what is involved.
I know that if it was me and I realized he was trying to circumvent the policies id keep the money and not send anything - or rather send a package with tracking that contained nothing. Sure you can then go into disputes but trust me if he tries hard enough he can even win that.
If ebay catches someone they suspended trying to sell on their system again they can only suspend you again. If this guy catches you circumventing his policies he can do more than that. You really want to go to war with this guy for doing what any other seller here would do in his place?
Ask yourself why youre getting so very little sympathy here to your situation.

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Gotta agree with slokor...

I was restricted when 1 buyer left 36 negative feedbacks and 36 1 star DSR's on 36 separate purchases. Overnight I was shut down. No possible appeal, no options left but stealth.

This seller deals in open box, returned problem items.

This buyer KNOWS these are damaged goods.

He says "I bought a $100 thing for $3, and it wasn't worth $100. The seller should have told me it was only worth $3, so I made him pay to take it back, and it's ALL the SELLERS fault".

This buyer steals the seller's time and money, and when the seller tries to protect himself, this guy wants to keep on battering him.

I've had businesses where I buy lots of damaged goods and try to turn two valueless items into one whole valuable one.

If this guy wants to be in that business he needs to accept the risk.

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Alright, I'll end with one response, and I'm done. Because some of you folks clearly don't know me at all. I'm not trying to take advantage of this seller at all. I'm not Dr. Evil. I've never left a negative feedback for him. I only opened up returns requests when the item I received was damaged or heavily used. I sell on eBay too, and know the heartaches of keeping metrics up. That's why I wanted to come up with a creative solution with him on how to handle this.

So please, calm down everyone. You think I've been trolling this seller for years. Not at all. I've actually had a productive relationship where I've purchased thousands of dollars from them over the past 6 months. I've also bid (sniped) on hundreds of other items (which I didn't win), but helped raise the closing bid for a higher revenue on their sales.

It has been a win/win for both parties. It just would have been helpful to have some sort of warning from the seller that I had too many returns...or needed to limit them to a certain number per month, etc. Or something. Just communicate and let me know. Why does someone have to lose?

Thank you for the input on both sides of the opinion. Please understand that there will be no return requests going forward anyways. So everyone wins.

And to everyone...a good night!

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It's funny how long this thread went on. Wow... just wow lol.


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ha...funny way to put an innocent tone to your schemes.

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done this before...then bam, buyers leave negative feedback because i offended their poor little feelings.

the solution is block block block.

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As a seller, I probably wouldn't want to deal with this buyer. So it's amazing, that I'm having to defend him against you guys.

Your scenario is made up, unless I"m blind and miss something. If the buyer and seller had the type of interaction that you've described, then sure. But all WE have seen, is the buyer bought stuff from a seller, and on multiple occasions ( out of how many???), the buyer received things that were not described accurately. If the seller said " This lot is worth $100", and it wasn't, THEN you'd have a point. If the seller said " you're getting such and such item" or " you're getting 10 of these items", and you get 5 items, and the lot was actually only worth $20, then the buyer has a point.

You guys are all assuming things, and railing on the OP due to your own biases from dealing with bad buyers. I've bought 1000's of things, so I guess I can look at it from a buyers perspective, while the rest of you can't get out of the seller bubble of thinking.

I remember you guys gave me crap ( not YOU personally) because I bought something from a seller, and it was ⊗⊗⊗⊗, and you jerks railed on me, that I should just accept that, because it's the risk of doing business. Umm, no, sorry, not going to roll over like you guys seem to suggest.