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eBay first item
 

Hi guys,

I read a lot threads about how to start selling with new stealth but i have one question. I have a good local cheap item to make quick and nice feedback. Do you think it will be a red flag to eBay robots to make many stealth using same first item ? I will make different photos with differend device and will make different looking listings.

Thanks in advance.

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Probably will be fine.

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Shouldn't be an issue as long as the listings look different and as long as the item is not too unique.

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Thanks guys.

Item is not unique i hope so and there is a few different models.
What can you tell about images, to buy new camera or clean meta data with Batch Purifier or better solution ? I am looking for the safest way to do this

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No need to buy a new camera but different angles, lightning, backgrounds help

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Sounds good but how to clean the photos ?

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Millions of threads on this, there's one just a few up from this.

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http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-to...an-photos.html

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/everyth...r-windows.html

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Nope - perfectly fine (so long as its not a super unique niche). Just make sure to vary up the listing, pictures, etc.

I've been using batch purifier for a while now, and it works a treat.
Just remember, the free version only cleans jpg format images, so if you put anything else in the mix, it will not clean it, and wont notify you either.

Good tip is once the process is finished, it will tell you how many images have been purified, i.e. 10 out of 10, etc. just make sure its always all images.

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I used it before days. Thanks for detailed information.
About first another good news :)

Is it a good idea to continue selling low risk items after i made good feedback or after that i just can start selling risk and profitable items ?

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I would stick to low risk items until you get the gold star / 10 positive feedbacks.

Then slowly introduce other products, i.e. make 1 listing, with 1 qty.

Many people make a mistake by making 1 listing, and setting the QTY to a large amount. This is a bad idea. You still need to show eBay you can cope with selling and providing a good service. Always take things slow.

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Sounds very cool :)
If i make 30 positive feedback in a month will be a rush to put other products i.e. one or two per week one a only two months aged account?

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if the products are cheap, I don't see a problem getting 30 feedbacks/mo

so you'd possibly be selling like 50-60 items since I believe 50% of users leave feedback, unless they are super happy with your speed and service

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So once you get 30 positive feedback ratings, you should list one product you wish to sell, let it sell, wait for positive feedback, then relist it.

Do it like that for a few sales to "get the ball rolling".

Then you can start listing higher quantities of the said product.

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Now i get it :) Thanks. I should play smart and slow the game :thumb:
Mean while i should continue sell low risk item and and gain more positive feedbacks :)

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Yes.

Of course going slow can test one's patience, especially from the get go. So in that case, you should open multiple accounts, and the slow sales from all of them put together will amount to something more worthwhile.

An added bonus is you have multiple accounts, in case one ever goes down.

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I remembered this important point in stealth from your other post. I strictly adhere to this advice. I should not put my all eggs in one basket :) I believe this way i can stay longer under radars. I made PayPal with my own debit card. It takes time to be issued from the bank also they charged me monthly. Before two days i was at the bank and they asked me why i need another Visa :) I couldn't believe. They messed my ZIP code and put another non sense digits. These thigs make me more slow. I am not sure is it a good idea to use VCC for withdraws and which of them is good for EU PayPal withdraws. Here we have VCC, Gift cards and Prepaid cards but only thing that i can do with them is to use them for online shopping, pity.

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If getting hold of debit cards in your country is so tedious, you should consider opening bank accounts (preferably savings accounts) - are they any easier?

Most UK users use savings bank accounts, and just withdraw their paypal balance there.

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Hi play,
Thanks for the posts

I have not yet opened another paypal acc so new little new to this.

You advise opening multiple ebay accounts which is a great idea but must they all be linked to multiple paypal accounts. if so can the paypal stealth acc be linked to our actual savings bank acc. will that not flag if we put our real name under the Bank Account name category when connecting it to paypal.

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Your welcome.

PayPal cannot see the name on the bank. Yes, 1 eBay, per PayPal.

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Don't worry you won't give any flag until your IP change. And use 1 account per IP with paypal

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I believe if you transfer money from bank to PP, they'll be able to see it.
BUt it doesn't seem to cause any issues.

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Correct - I should of elaborated. Bank should only be used for withdrawal. Nothing more.

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I can try the other banks, may be the employee which i visited was just not friendly. They can't refuse debit card to a resident. They are many banks here. Also i can check how it works MasterCard, but i know Visa is better solution for PayPal, i prefer Electron. We have deposit accounts here but they have no IBAN numbers and the only thing i can do is to deposit or withdraw savings from this type of account and the spread is so small. Non sense product. What do you think about withdrawing to VCC ?

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Withdrawing to VCC only works with some EU countries. Feel free to try it out. You may experience some hiccups at first, so I suggest you stick to selling a few items, for cheap, and trying to withdraw the funds.

If it works - Great!

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FYI, these are the PayPal countries that support withdrawals from PayPal to VCC.

Bahrain
Bulgaria
Chile
Croatia
Cyprus
Estonia
Georgia
Gibraltar
Iceland
Indonesia
Israel
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malaysia
Malta
Moldova
Oman
Philippines
Romania
San Marino
Saudi Arabia
Serbia
Slovakia
Slovenia
United Arab Emirates
Uruguay

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Thanks. I will try to find good VCC, but here is no such thing :) Selling strategy is very wise and i hope it will work. And thanks for the list :thumb:

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VCC is a virtual credit card. I should of elaborated, it can work with some bank issued cards too. Usually European banks. You would need to check with your bank on that though (hence why I suggested test it with a small withdrawal).

So to summarise, you need a PayPal (country from list above) + a card capable of accepting withdrawals.

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Yes a virtual credit card. I was thinking that some VCC comes with plastic card, for ATM withdrawals imo. I searched the net about this. There is three banks offering virtual cards here. They call them only virtual cards, not credit. We are still in the 19th century :laugh: There is no plastic for ATM withdrawals. I will make my research and i really hope to can make withdraw in the bank office on cash desk and the bank is not sharing my personal data to PayPal, like the genuine VCCs around the world.

I hope i understended you clearly :thumb:

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So long as you dont ever use it as a "funding source", or in other words, fund payments using you bank or card, your name will not be revealed. ;)

Let us know how things work out for you. :thumb:

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I will use the golden rule for multiple accounts/spread sales. The question is will be a bad idea to maintain three active listing per acc in other words to sale 6-7 risk items per week per each account ? I will do that after account has good feedback history and was aged a little bit. I want to get the maximum of the accounts bacause i know soon of a later listings will be pulled down from the bad guys :)

I find local bank that offers VCC withdrawing on cash desk. I should check is it capable with PayPal and it will be really good news. Thanks again :thumb:

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Sounds good.

As for selling risky items, you do so at your own risk. There is no magic acceptable number.

The rule of thumb however is simple, even if what your selling is frowned upon by ebay, so long as its legal, and your clients are happy, then such listings rarely get removed (IMO).

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I don't know exactly how they decide to remove one listing. May be nobody knows :) I think it is very important the account standing - top rated seller, aged, and things like this. One way is to be reported by other seller/competitor.
I don't think they can pull down listings only about photos. Other thing is may be about where are the sellers from, US, UK and Western Europe /good reputation/ or Eastern European countries /bad reputation/ imo. Also may be is better for account not selling only risk items but mixed them with low/no risk items imo. A pretty complicated puzzle for me:shocked:

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Use different background's and get a free metadata program or app with these you can change the info within the image :)

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Tends to be as simple as how risky the item is, and who has reported it.

A competitor, not much of an affect.
A buyer, has a little more weight.
The manufacturer (using ebay's vero programme), the listing is immediately removed.

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When my last eBay account was burned i sold branded items. They give some months to sell and after that they pulled the listings. Then and before with other burned accounts they never wrote in notification mail to anything about VERO. May be the brand wasn't VERO i didn't find it in the list before years. They were infoming me about trademark violation. May be there is some key to fix this because there are a lot of sellers with big sales with sale item. I was thinking to try to proofe my items are genuine with documents, but they are not asking for docs. I read threds here but there are different opinions.

Have a nice weekend :)

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There are many tactics used by eBay to identify if an item is ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or not. Proof of purchase is rarely one of them - this is only really used to establish if the item is yours, i.e. not stolen. I've had that when selling phones.

Avoid selling counterfeit items (if that's what your doing), it will get you into a whole lot of mess.

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When i am searching i saw many sellers doing this. Only they know how they are able to do this and have a lot of active listings without eBay shutting them down. I am thinking for long term business plan. I can try sell authentic branded items but i know they all are risky and after listings are pulled down there is no big chance to reinstate them with sending proof of authenticity, invoices and other docs. Everybody wants to have stable business imo :)

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Start with generic items, or items with your own brand name.

Once you establish yourself on ebay (takes a few years), then you can begin selling branded items.

On a brand new, premature account, ebay don't care if its authentic or not, their not willing to take the chance.

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Aged accounts with high limits are very good for risk items imo. But i listed a branded item on a aged /9 years/ non-stealth account and after few sells they removed it. May be account wasn't in perfect shape. Interesting is that they give you some times /few months/ to sell such items and after that they pulled down the listings.