Abandoning Ebay - Stress Levels not worth it?

[Lucynda]

Originally Posted by Yasav

Maybe a newbie question, but when EB moves to amazon-like payment system, wouldn't it mean that all stealth accounts are good until SSN is requested?

using a tax ID number and an LLC is a common practice. I'm sure it will continue.

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Payelectronica

I found that spreading my stealth accounts out pretty much removed the stress from ebay/PayPal almost completely.

AGREED! Years ago I could get instant diarrhea from discovering a single new email title that said "Your PP account has been Limited" when opening my email, and even if it turned out to be only spam, my day was ruined.

Now, even though I have mastered keeping nearly every buyer happy, the worst case scenario (there's always going to be a glitch, or shady buyer, etc ) still won't rattle me, because I have 4 other accounts going and can fix the problem at hand without feeling like I'm trying to unravel a parachute during a free fall.

Spreading sales out is probably one of the single best ways to manage stress, in my opinion also.

[sax4]

Originally Posted by Elliot

AGREED! Years ago I could get instant diarrhea from discovering a single new email title that said "Your PP account has been Limited" when opening my email, and even if it turned out to be only spam, my day was ruined.

Now, even though I have mastered keeping nearly every buyer happy, the worst case scenario (there's always going to be a glitch, or shady buyer, etc ) still won't rattle me, because I have 4 other accounts going and can fix the problem at hand without feeling like I'm trying to unravel a parachute during a free fall.

Spreading sales out is probably one of the single best ways to manage stress, in my opinion also.

Yes waking up to those emails many years ago used to stab me in the stomach, these days they are an annoyance, but nothing more

[oompaloompa]

Originally Posted by andi_bandi

I am sure it is not quite OK to impersonate someone who either exists or not to sell stuff, I thought, OK chances are low to anything really happen, but then Ebay started approving returns automatically and issuing labels to the stealth addresses, now if stuff would show up at your door and you'd see it's ebay stuff returned, would you not contact e-bay to try and find out what on earth is happening and why is someone else using your address and who knows what else and what they might be selling that might cause you trouble down the road? Some people might even go to the police.
I was OK with it and not scared UNTIL ebay decided to approve returns instantly.

NEVER impersonate another person...ever....
You do not need to.
This is my biggest bug about what some people on forum do....they deserve any consequences they get...

[andi_bandi]

Then how do you go about creating a stealth account, you always use your own name dob?

Originally Posted by andi_bandi

Then how do you go about creating a stealth account, you always use your own name dob?

Random name, random address, random date of birth....

[rsot]

Originally Posted by andi_bandi

Then how do you go about creating a stealth account, you always use your own name dob?

You get the stealth guide +/- read more around the forums

[andi_bandi]

I have read it and a random name, random address and random dob are what I have been doing or the accounts that I have purchased even the genders were all over the place, but that is still pretending to be someone else, I do not get what the difference is or what the user above was trying to suggest.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by andi_bandi

I have read it and a random name, random address and random dob are what I have been doing or the accounts that I have purchased even the genders were all over the place, but that is still pretending to be someone else, I do not get what the difference is or what the user above was trying to suggest.

Not if that someone else does not exist...if you get the hint

[Emporium]

Honestly, I would totally quit eBay and get a job if eBay only had the potential to make $4000 per month. The reason that I don't is going to add a lot more stress.

Have you considered expanding and hiring employees? I wouldn't want to work on my own making $4,000 per month forever but I sure would make nothing for 5 years to someday make $4,000,000 per month with little to no work.

Maybe continue with your job for now but read the four-hour workweek.

[Yasav]

Originally Posted by Emporium

Honestly, I would totally quit eBay and get a job if eBay only had the potential to make $4000 per month. The reason that I don't is going to add a lot more stress.

Have you considered expanding and hiring employees? I wouldn't want to work on my own making $4,000 per month forever but I sure would make nothing for 5 years to someday make $4,000,000 per month with little to no work.

Maybe continue with your job for now but read the four-hour workweek.

Choosing the right category, the right products, and knowing the right suppliers IS EVERYTHING in this business..4k is nothing...I turned down 9k a month job for EB. ZERO regrets even if I fail. Pointless to work to make someone rich and then wonder when you're 50 why you are basically broke. It's because you made others rich all your life! Never.

[Kajunrook]

Originally Posted by Yasav

Choosing the right category, the right products, and knowing the right suppliers IS EVERYTHING in this business..4k is nothing...I turned down 9k a month job for EB. ZERO regrets even if I fail. Pointless to work to make someone rich and then wonder when you're 50 why you are basically broke. It's because you made others rich all your life! Never.

Well why not both, I have a great job and make 6 figures, do ebay for fun and clear about 6k a month. Cant quit full time job cause I need health insurance. Important when you are an oldie.

[Yasav]

Originally Posted by Kajunrook

Well why not both, I have a great job and make 6 figures, do ebay for fun and clear about 6k a month. Cant quit full time job cause I need health insurance. Important when you are an oldie.

True, you can kinda try to balance both and get best of both worlds with limited outcomes and minimal risks. But what if your job is doing 12-hour shifts in the oil fields in the middle of nowhere? IMHO many successful people who I interviewed believed that it takes FULL COMMITMENT toward a goal in order to achieve it, in this case a personal EB business.

[Kajunrook]

Originally Posted by Yasav

True, you can kinda try to balance both and get best of both worlds with limited outcomes and minimal risks. But what if your job is doing 12-hour shifts in the oil fields in the middle of nowhere? IMHO many successful people who I interviewed believed that it takes FULL COMMITMENT toward a goal in order to achieve it, in this case a personal EB business.

Well I work 40 hours s werk supervising 6 restaurants but pnlu because I built an award winning team snd they are self sufficient

[Yasav]

Originally Posted by Kajunrook

Well I work 40 hours s werk supervising 6 restaurants but pnlu because I built an award winning team snd they are self sufficient

I say that's truly awesome! Especially if you can do EB alongside.

For youngsters right out of college like myself most job opportunities are pretty grim. The one I found required a 5-year contact upfront, which means that you're basically their "slave" for that period time and won't be able to leave. The pay is high by national standards and there's no rent/food/transportation expense. But when I realized what the job entailed, I ran for the hills. It would have meant the end of all my EB/AMAZON aspirations for good.

I just realized that I would have never been able to be happy at such job. And that's all that counts. I also didn't date anyone entire college (spent too much time chasing a "worthless" degree) so I am pretty pumped to go out every night once I am done with school for good.

[Gladiator]

Originally Posted by Emporium

Honestly, I would totally quit eBay and get a job if eBay only had the potential to make $4000 per month. The reason that I don't is going to add a lot more stress.

Have you considered expanding and hiring employees? I wouldn't want to work on my own making $4,000 per month forever but I sure would make nothing for 5 years to someday make $4,000,000 per month with little to no work.

Maybe continue with your job for now but read the four-hour workweek.

Perspective. $4000 a month for a single person in most states is a good living. Not maybe New York or San Francisco, but somebody who lives in Charlotte, NC probably lives pretty well on that.

[dachilla]

Originally Posted by Gladiator

Perspective. $4000 a month for a single person in most states is a good living. Not maybe New York or San Francisco, but somebody who lives in Charlotte, NC probably lives pretty well on that.

4k makes u chief of the trailer park

[sax4]

Originally Posted by dachilla

4k makes u chief of the trailer park

It's a question of location, $4k in USA makes you king of the trailer park, whereas in Eastern Europe for example you will be a god

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by dachilla

4k makes u chief of the trailer park

$50k a year is a very good living for a modest single man, that doesn't live in the city.

I'm sure there are people hear that can sh*t on your income just as well. Be nice!

[dachilla]

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974

$50k a year is a very good living for a modest single man, that doesn't live in the city.

I'm sure there are people hear that can sh*t on your income just as well. Be nice!

didn't mean to offend anybody. In fact my comment was meant to be ironic.

I think 4k is a hell of a lot of money and where I live 4 families or even more do live off 4k $ a month and not only a single man.

[ebaystealth1974]

Gotcha. It looked like you were mocking the income. Sorry! lol

[andi_bandi]

I'm only in my mid 20's and have a corporate job, I live in the UK and make 3500 per month, I think this is extremely decent for the UK, I can imagine how this might sound lousy for someone from the US, I know salaries can skyrocket there for various industries, but not as much in the UK.
I'm also married and have a toddler, so the perspective of working from home 1-3 hours and making roughly the same income or more was pretty attractive ( so I could take care of cooking, cleaning properly lol ), but I am being honest and I just could not handle all the stress and wake up that suddenly I have 5k blocked in paypal, when nursery, mortgage and all that **** won't "wait" for 6 months, but I am currently also working on the idea of doing my sells on my own platform, just working on my products before launching and will keep an ebay account to spam customers with coupons lol in their packages.