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Default SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

Let me start with the fact that I have been doing this for 6 years. I have read the Stealth Book 2x (back in the day when it was a pdf and just last year in the new version).

I just received emails for all of my 16 eBay accounts that each is suspended. Message read that recent activity raised serious security concerns. Some accounts have had a lot activity , ones with a bank acct linked. Others, I sold small used household items almost 6 months ago and have occasionally logged in but did not sell anything since.

Each account had different information, separate prepaid t-mobile phone number, all IP's were tracked and never used the same one. I was using the method of a cable modem and separate router, changing MAC to get new IP on xfinity. Each had a separate gmail account. Never any transfers between PayPal etc. Each PayPal had a separate Visa vanilla, address with matching zip codes.

I have no idea why and how each account was suddenly linked and suspended. Did something change in the eBay process? I did not use any third party services for shipping. I had all email addresses on my iPhone with the images disabled.

Any ideas please????
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

Comcast does not give you new IP's so there's a very strong possibility you were linked by common IP's. You may have been changing your local IP by messing with your modem but the most public IP's Comcast will give you on a residential connection is 2. 1 for using your modem as a modem only, and another if you're using the modem + router feature.

From my experience with Comcast (spent about 3 terrible years with them) there's no way you were never reusing IP's because they use Static IP's.

What method were you using to check your IP before each session?
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For the longest time Comcast was good for ip pools but I haven't used them in a long time, I just used cell phone tether
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I was checking my IPs on IPBurger.com
I have each IP address noted over the past 6 years in a word document. Sometimes I'd get the same IP as an old account and had to repeat the process of changing the digits in Mac and restarting to router...This was a method in Stealth Book. Is the process of checking public vs local IP{ different?
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

Can you explain what you mean here,please

ones with bank accounts linked

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What I mean is that only some of the PayPal accounts had an actual bank account linked. I had a larger volume of sales on those eBay accounts.
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

Could it have been gmail? (I have the email for each account on my iPhone, always have)
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

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What I mean is that only some of the PayPal accounts had an actual bank account linked. I had a larger volume of sales on those eBay accounts.

I am so sorry to hear of this disaster. Sorry for a barrage of questions.


Were the bank accounts from the same bank?

Did you move funds between the accounts?

Are the accounts spread around a location?

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Bank accounts were spread between Suntrust, Chase, and Discover.
I have never moved funds between the accounts.
Addresses were all within 20 miles of each other.
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

How about products sold, templates and images?
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

Some accounts had similar items sold, although I took different pictures and cleared data on each via exifPurge. That, however, doesn't explain all other accounts that have barely been used and never had anything similar sold.
Process I use for images: take with iPhone > upload to dropbox > download from Dropbox to the corresponding computer user > rename photos > use exifPurge to remove data
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

using window users? VMware?

My guess if all got closed down at the same time, it is a very solid link such as repetitive same IP used or all accounts on one computer user.
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It's a Mac computer. Each account has separate computer user. IP's always tracked.
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shared Icloud account?
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

Lots of unanswered questions. You need to really elaborate how you were operating these accounts.

Were you using portable browsers?, I'm assuming you weren't, and were just using browsers within each user account.

Which browser where you using? Safari? Chrome / Firefox?

Did you sign into the browsers (and thus sync browsing data together)?

IP - I strongly advise you to record these within excel. The fact you're using a word document for 6 years make me feel you're not too experienced with IT, and may have made a mistake somewhere, perhaps unknowingly.

Internet - Is anyone else using your internet connection whilst you're using ebay? and perhaps even logging into their own ebay account(s)?

The listings - were you selling same item across accounts? were you using the same images? were you removing exif data from images? did you're listings contain any html content that were the same across all listings?

Did all 16 accounts go down same time, or over some period of time?

So many factors, you really need to break things down for us step by step to see where you went wrong.
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

It seems that you have all the foundation covered.

It's also possible that there's a leak somewhere. I don't know where yet, but the members here are asking the right questions.

So i'm rather curious what actually happened.
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

Question, did you have big IPv6 IP addresses when you were logging?

Very curious to see how this happened, I've started Stealthing the same way and I'm now a bit worried.

Mac user accounts > IP Tracking > Xfinity

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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

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Addresses were all within 20 miles of each other.
Not really a factor in linking - tons of ppl have banks all over the place, address is irrelevant (banks that is)
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

Why did you get suspended in the first place? Were your listings taken down for trademark violations for example? I would really appreciate an elaboration.
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RIP bro, look at your accounts as soldiers. Your Army died. Time to go back and build even a bigger Army. Good luck. The promise is long a gruesome but you seriously need a better plan for your IP's.
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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

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Not really a factor in linking - tons of ppl have banks all over the place, address is irrelevant (banks that is)
Except the OP meant the addresses of the accounts.

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Default Re: SHOCKED. How did my accounts get linked?? Experienced user

OP, in your GMAIL accounts. Did you disable IMAGES? if you didnt, and opened an email to read, you basically spread a virus to ALL of your accounts :(
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