Integrating Adyen to Stealth eBay

[ebaystealth1974]

Etsy uses Ayden and it seems to be a non-issue.

[sellingnoob]

i wonder how will this process be for international ebay seller like me...my ebay accounts are not usa..

[walkingupwards]

I don't think eBay is tired at all from stealthers to begin with. There are hundreds of thousands of sellers, I can't imagine them digging deep into everyone.

After all, they can't be harder than Amazon in my opinion. PayPal has been accumulating sales statistics on eBay for decades... I wonder why they don't start their own marketplace!!!


One more thing to keep in mind is that PayPal has more than 18,000 employees while Adyen only has 880!! So logically they don't have as much staff to process people applications as does PayPal.

[glacier922]

^^^

Yea for sure, Amazon is a whole different ball game as far as stealth goes. If you're good at Amazon on making accounts, you'll be fine with eBay with whatever they throw at you.

[dan_ebay]

Will be game over in my opinion, I doubt they're envisioning your 'business names' being bill and ben the flower pot men who reside in different areas all across the US, may be a flag to them lol.

[eman350]

They're not going to stop me I have over 40 ebay and paypal accounts now.

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by eman350

They're not going to stop me I have over 40 ebay and paypal accounts now.

You're missing the point. You won't be able to use any of your 40 accounts when they eliminate Paypal as a payment option unless you get 40 EIN's.

[eman350]

It's ok, I will figure somthing out when that happens.

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by eman350

It's ok, I will figure somthing out when that happens.

Yeah, me too.

I might finally start building up that ecommerce website..

[newjerseymax]

So if you paypal was limited and your ebay still good then up and running again?

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by newjerseymax

So if you paypal was limited and your ebay still good then up and running again?

Too soon to say, but I highly doubt it. eB and PP were the same company until about a year ago so eB knows if you've been limited on PP. Even after the split they continued sharing info.

I'm sure if you tried, they would see during the Adyen application process that you've already been limited on PP, and probably deny your application.

[aquabats]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

You're missing the point. You won't be able to use any of your 40 accounts when they eliminate Paypal as a payment option unless you get 40 EIN's.

Cant we just open many bussiness and get EIN?

It should not be so hard

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by aquabats

Cant we just open many bussiness and get EIN?

It should not be so hard

Sure you can but you would have to go through an Adyen application for each EIN. It's actually going to make things quite a bit harder. And there will be no more selling junk/phakes "anonymously" using a stealth account with no attached bank.

[eman350]

So around July 2023 is when ebay sellers can not use paypal anymore right? We be forced
to use the new ebay payment system?

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by eman350

So around July 2023 is when ebay sellers can not use paypal anymore right? We be forced
to use the new ebay payment system?

Yep.



They're giving us a little time to prepare.

[empirestate]

Originally Posted by eman350

So around July 2023 is when ebay sellers can not use paypal anymore right? We be forced
to use the new ebay payment system?

What?! Are you for real? Not even an option? This is a terrible idea...eBay...

Completely removing GayPal wow...

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[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by empirestate

What?! Are you for real? Not even an option? This is a terrible idea...eBay...

Completely removing GayPal wow...

Sup empire.

Yeah it's a bad idea on their part..

[Lucynda]

Originally Posted by 13obby

I’ve heard it was simple and easy verification process from someone on this forum who said they were opening stealth Etsy accounts and of course Ayden backs the payments for Etsy and apparently it was easier being verified by Ayden then PayPal. I’ll see if I can find the thread and post a link hear.

Do you remember who that was?

[13obby]

Originally Posted by Lucynda

Do you remember who that was?

No sorry I don’t

[secret storm]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

I do not.

And I don't think even that will work, unless they are real documents obtained fraudulently. If it's a 5-7 day application process that means they are digging deep into your selling practices, supplier information, and your personal identity.

Even with my merchant account the application process only took about 48 hours. 5-7 days is crazy. It seems like eBay is finally tired of stealth accounts, and they're getting rid of them.

If eBay really abolishes PayPal in 2023 it could be 10 times harder to run stealth accounts to say the least.

Ayden could be like Amazon with the seller having to provide SS# and a working bank account right at signup. This becomes very problematic because Amazon is known to dig into the bank information you give them if you start doing serious volume and ban people if the bank info does not match the signup info. So with stealth you won't ever be able to grow stealth accounts into massive, profitable accounts possibly.

All you people on here that were in celebration and so happy to see PayPal gone in the future when eBay broke the news of it in 2018 I'm sure will regret the golden age of stealth accounts that PayPal made possible.

Adyen more than likely will make operating costs for running stealth accounts go way up and that's not even considering the fate of each account. What I fear is that if they do their own internal risk assessment like a credit card processor and want to run a credit check on you. If they decide to do so and very probable for accounts doing big volume.

It's possible that only the no life relentlessly hard working cut throat enigmas are going to be able to survive with stealth on Adyen.

[kk4356]

It is much easy to open Ayden account then PayPal they don't care much as PayPal what you sell as longer you have a case and fix it or make the refund they will never ever close your account not like PayPal.And is taking 5-to 7 days to have the account not bucose they check all your information and they need that time the reason is that they don't have so much people working fro them at the moment but when they start to work with eBay you all will see that time will be down to up to 48 hours max i know i person who worked for them .

[james_112233]

I don't envision Ayden to be as strict as Paypal, I mean who are they ? we have only heard about them ... not in the beginning anyway. Paypal has spent many many years analyzing data and their procedures.

I don't think any one should stress about it just yet.