scamming buyer

[hackteck]

buyer buys phone i send it off the same day he receives it he opens claim not as described the reason he gave was gibberish a bunch of '%%&@' could not read it ebay accepts the return and makes me pay for the return shipping he sends it off i receive the package yesterday and he sent an empty box with bubble wrap in it ive sold hundreds of phones on ebay this is the first time this has ever happened i tell ebay what happened they decide in his favor and debit my paypal account so now im out 420 dollars :(

[Sunspot144]

Nothing you can really do. Mail him a giant box full of $hit without a return address. Maybe rig it up to be spring-loaded.

Or is he selling anything himself?

[BigCJ]

file a police report online.

[LSD]

This type of scam is pretty common these days and strange thing is ebay always takes side of the scammer/buyer.

[nickopedia]

It doesn't matter what the reason is for the return. In fact, I have gotten returns with no comments at all, and even one that had gibberish text like you did with "abc123" in the comments field. They are auto approved and it's highly unlikely anyone other than you and your buyer will see them.

Filing a police report accomplishes nothing. Law Enforcement is so busy with other more serious cases 99% of the time they will just put into their files and not investigate.

I have other ways of dealing with problem buyers/sellers, but those methods are outside the scope of this forum.

[Pedroalva]

If eBay decided so nothing to do , I always prefer to sell not expensive items ( max 40-50 USD)

[BigCJ]

Originally Posted by nickopedia

Filing a police report accomplishes nothing. Law Enforcement is so busy with other more serious cases 99% of the time they will just put into their files and not investigate.

I have other ways of dealing with problem buyers/sellers, but those methods are outside the scope of this forum.

Filing a police report and showing it to ebay will force their hands most of the time because they do not want law enforcement involved. Hence they will give the seller the money and let the buyer keep the item.

Ive lost only 2 cases out of the years of using ebay/paypal and dealing with scammers. And thats because It wasnt worth the cost of the item.

Im not understanding how people do not take precautions when selling high priced items. But then again, I dont sell anything over a certain amount on ebay.

[hackteck]

Originally Posted by BigCJ

Filing a police report and showing it to ebay will force their hands most of the time because they do not want law enforcement involved. Hence they will give the seller the money and let the buyer keep the item.

Ive lost only 2 cases out of the years of using ebay/paypal and dealing with scammers. And thats because It wasnt worth the cost of the item.

Im not understanding how people do not take precautions when selling high priced items. But then again, I dont sell anything over a certain amount on ebay.

what type of precaution could i have taken so this wont happen in the future im all ears

[mepeh]

Keep your item value under 50-100$ to avoid scams.
Add them to your blocked buyers with this link:
https://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI....dderBlockLogin
Mention in their feedback that they are scammers (even with a positive only feedback)

Taking pictures with the orders you ship doesn't help. We tried.
Filing Police Reports is time consuming and who would you file it under if you have a stealth account...

[hackteck]

Originally Posted by mepeh

Keep your item value under 50-100$ to avoid scams.
Add them to your blocked buyers with this link:
https://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI....dderBlockLogin
Mention in their feedback that they are scammers (even with a positive only feedback)

Taking pictures with the orders you ship doesn't help. We tried.
Filing Police Reports is time consuming and who would you file it under if you have a stealth account...

good advice but keeping items under 100 isnt possible for me as i sell used phones and laptops thanks for the advice thou

[Math_Pro]

send him a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ eBay message to scare him

[WasTopRatedThenBanned]

Cost of doing Business....Retail Stores get robbed everyday..Not trying to be rude, i feel your pain and it sucks...in the end, it's just one of those things that is always bound to happen. Always make sure you can afford to take a hit or two to maintain Business such as re-ordering products, paying bills etc...

Also, be sure to memorize the scam buyers address, especially the city and state, if he gets over you one time, i would be paranoid of him or a friend of his to do it again.

You could search online and make up some court documents and send it to him looking professional...obviously money is out of the question but a small claims court threat or something in that nature unless item is returned in the order it was received.

[xenix]

You got his name and address man go in real and talk to him like a man

[lally106]

Originally Posted by hackteck

buyer buys phone i send it off the same day he receives it he opens claim not as described the reason he gave was gibberish a bunch of '%%&@' could not read it ebay accepts the return and makes me pay for the return shipping he sends it off i receive the package yesterday and he sent an empty box with bubble wrap in it ive sold hundreds of phones on ebay this is the first time this has ever happened i tell ebay what happened they decide in his favor and debit my paypal account so now im out 420 dollars :(

Common Scam by refunders, you can get your package weighted and take a photo before sending.

[mrgazer]

file a police report, write to ebay formally requesting a refund due to buyer abusing ebay rules. After 10+ attempts ebay will probably refund you. Buyer will still keep the phone and refund, nothing you can do about it.

Send him a box of dog Sh!T with grasshoppers (ensure box is big enough for them to stay alive). This is the best way of going round it.

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by LSD

This type of scam is pretty common these days and strange thing is ebay always takes side of the scammer/buyer.

Maybe it's because they know they're going to make money again when the scammer resells the phone on eBay next week.

[BigCJ]

Originally Posted by hackteck

what type of precaution could i have taken so this wont happen in the future im all ears

Filing an IC3 report can be done for stealth as well.
So if you have time to make a thread on this forum, you have time to file one and get a shot at getting your money back.

The point is that the IC3 report will probably no affect the buyer (If even the buyer is stealth) but it puts ebay on blast that they are not protecting their sellers. The more IC3 reports file, the more unwanted attention ebay / paypal gets.


I used to sell higher ticket items and ran into scammers left and right. Thats how I dealt with them and got my money back.

If you still plan on selling high ticket items, use ebay for the traffic and try to get the buyers to pay via cash on meetup or off site transactions (Be in mind about ebays policies about contacting off the site though)

[nickopedia]

Originally Posted by mrgazer

file a police report, write to ebay formally requesting a refund due to buyer abusing ebay rules. After 10+ attempts ebay will probably refund you. Buyer will still keep the phone and refund, nothing you can do about it.

Send him a box of dog Sh!T with grasshoppers (ensure box is big enough for them to stay alive). This is the best way of going round it.

I love it!

Heck with the grasshoppers.... I would send the scammer a box of cockroaches. You can buy them in bulk from many pet shops and online.

[hackteck]

just an update i filed an appeal last night with ebay over the phone and they are requesting a police report to continue

I'm sorry to hear there was a problem with the item. I understand that you received an empty packaged of your supposedly returned item.

We need your help to resolve this case. Please file an incident report with your local law enforcement agency (police department). Filing an incident report is generally free of charge and is easy to do. The report documents that there's been a problem.

Here are the details that must be included in the report:
-- Description of the item received
-- Name of the officer filing the report
-- Officer's badge number
-- Station location (city and state)
-- Station phone number

We've placed this case on hold for 10 days to allow you to get an incident report. Once you have the report, you can scan it and upload it via this link:

[Math_Pro]

send the faggot a free sofa with a bunch of fleas and bed bugs inside

[pothos]

Originally Posted by nickopedia

I love it!

Heck with the grasshoppers.... I would send the scammer a box of cockroaches. You can buy them in bulk from many pet shops and online.

Do they sell the eggs of the cockroaches?
The eggs can be hidden in a toy so they will hatch in that bad buyer's house.

[BigCJ]

Originally Posted by hackteck

just an update i filed an appeal last night with ebay over the phone and they are requesting a police report to continue

Good that means they know you are taking it seriously.

File it, send it to them, you'll probably win now.