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topnotchsports 03-01-2019 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 982474)
Not really. eBay is growing and becoming more attractive to consumers. Btw, eBay still has the kind of traffic that will bring you big sums of money if you know what and where to sell.

Sellers are being beaten up by Amazon day and night, maybe there will be an exodus somewhere in the future :lol: who knows!

Not sure where your getting that info at but that definitely not the case. eBays share of the ecommerce market declines every year. 10 years ago they were comparable. Now Amazon sells in a month what ebay does in a year. Amazon could care less about the small sellers on here that are being "beaten up".

Play 03-01-2019 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotchsports (Post 982472)
Compete with Amazon? Your joking right? That's a fight eBay wants none of. Amazon will put eBay out of business faster than redbox did blockbuster.

Whilst eBay aren't (and can't) directly compete with Amazon, they are definitely mimicking a lot of Amazon's features.

topnotchsports 03-01-2019 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Play (Post 982480)
Whilst eBay aren't (and can't) directly compete with Amazon, they are definitely mimicking a lot of Amazon's features.

As any company would when another is kicking their ass. But seeing what another business is doing well and trying to implement it into your own and trying to "compete" with that business are two completely different things. There is a market for eBay and Amazon. There isn't a market for a 2nd Amazon.

walkingupwards 03-01-2019 03:47 PM

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@topnotchsports:


Most of the sellers on eBay never heard about stealth. So if eBay implements a policy to verify them, most will comply with no complaining.

ebaystealth1974 03-01-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotchsports (Post 982475)
That's 100% not true. You are severely underestimating the "small sellers". eBay is as dependent on small sellers as they are on eBay. There isn't one seller on ebay making even a fraction of the "small sellers" combined.

That's 100% not true.

There are individual sellers on ebay who sell more in ONE DAY than most small sellers sell in a year.

But whatever...

topnotchsports 03-01-2019 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 982483)
@topnotchsports:


Most of the sellers on eBay never heard about stealth. So if eBay implements a policy to verify them, most will comply with no complaining.

I disagree. You think Joe Schmo working a full time job & selling stuff around his house to make a few extra bucks, is going to jump through the hoops that Amazon sellers have to? I don't

phaz0rz 03-01-2019 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotchsports (Post 982487)
I disagree. You think Joe Schmo working a full time job & selling stuff around his house to make a few extra bucks, is going to jump through the hoops that Amazon sellers have to? I don't

It won't be the same kind of hoops. I think most joe blow part time sellers will willingly hand over an ID selfie to eBay without thinking twice. It's the norm now.

BTW I agree with most of what you say but I think you are wrong about eBay not trying to compete with Amazon. The signs of eBay competing with Amazon are in our faces every day. eBay is rolling out their "product catalog" and "managed payments" in an effort to emulate the Amazon experience and capture back some business from them.

ddm50 03-01-2019 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by byte (Post 982464)
What if you're from EU?

I wouldn't worry about that, there's no way they can do the same to Europe.

Lucynda 03-02-2019 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by byte (Post 982470)
By creating social media accounts?

Among other things.

walkingupwards 03-02-2019 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ddm50 (Post 982494)
I wouldn't worry about that, there's no way they can do the same to Europe.


Are you serious? Do you realize how easy the situation in the US is compared to the EU with respect to stealth?

The EU just made eBay and Amazon liable for any uncollected VAT from sellers operating on such platforms. Thus eBay & Amazon are asking all sellers to upload a VAT document (which will be checked thoroughly btw).

The name on the VAT document must match with the name on your eBay account.


Germany for example is way too bureaucratic in comparison to the US. So please expect more hurdles not less :deadhorse:

ddm50 03-02-2019 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 982598)
Are you serious? Do you realize how easy the situation in the US is compared to the EU with respect to stealth?

The EU just made eBay and Amazon liable for any uncollected VAT from sellers operating on such platforms. Thus eBay & Amazon are asking all sellers to upload a VAT document (which will be checked thoroughly btw).

The name on the VAT document must match with the name on your eBay account.


Germany for example is way too bureaucratic in comparison to the US. So please expect more hurdles not less :deadhorse:

That's Germany, not the entire Union, nonetheless this won't affect me at all.

topnotchsports 03-02-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 982488)
It won't be the same kind of hoops. I think most joe blow part time sellers will willingly hand over an ID selfie to eBay without thinking twice. It's the norm now.

BTW I agree with most of what you say but I think you are wrong about eBay not trying to compete with Amazon. The signs of eBay competing with Amazon are in our faces every day. eBay is rolling out their "product catalog" and "managed payments" in an effort to emulate the Amazon experience and capture back some business from them.

I don't know exactly what direction eBay is heading in the next few years. They are making lots of changes and we will have to kind of wait and see. I'm saying if eBay decides to emulate or "compete" with Amazon it will be a colossal failure. eBay can try whatever they want, but they will never capture Amazon customers back. Amazon is a beast that will only continue to grow and monopolize the ecommerce market. There is still a major need for marketplace like eBay. But if eBay tries to structure itself like amazon they will run themselves into a wall. That's just my opinion though.

Lucynda 03-02-2019 03:12 PM

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The best thing for us all to do is to try to spread our sources of income around as much as possible to make issues like this a little less scary. I started working on offline sources of income last year.

bballaw1 05-17-2019 05:56 PM

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Lucynda was curious how youve been doing these last two months! Any updated information you have found out?

bman707 05-17-2019 08:39 PM

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Topnitchsports I agree with you on a lot of what your saying I think if they start asking for all these documents etc a lot of people won’t sell just a big inconvenience for small time sellers I think it will all work out if not I guess it’s 9-5 everyone but that’s life live and adapt is all we can do

SaiJin 05-17-2019 08:52 PM

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Was talking to an employee and she told me that PayPal will still be an option on eBay but she isn’t sure if adyen is mandatory. They are still working that part out.

I still think it’ll be mandatory from everything I have read so far.

Leader2dark 05-17-2019 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1003429)
Was talking to an employee and she told me that PayPal will still be an option on eBay but she isn’t sure if adyen is mandatory. They are still working that part out.

I still think it’ll be mandatory from everything I have read so far.

They are probably thinking as a BUYER PayPal will still be an option. As a seller, PayPal will NOT be an option.

SaiJin 05-17-2019 11:54 PM

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Probably, she said as a seller both will be an option

ivanicon 05-18-2019 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1003453)
Probably, she said as a seller both will be an option

an eb ay representative told me that same thing when I called them awhile back. I don't know if y'all recall my thread about calling them to increase my limits but it was on that same call...

bman707 05-18-2019 01:15 AM

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I hope Paypal stays around it’s my Pal

agent006140 05-18-2019 09:00 AM

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There are sellers who dont have bank accounts or do not want to use their bank account to receive sales proceeds from online sales .
With AMZN and Etsy,they dont have a choice.
But with Ebay /Paypal they can keep their fund in the paypal account,use the PAYPAL debit card to go shopping,if they use that debit card as a credit card,Paypal gives them 1% cash rebate.
they can also use that card to withdraw cash from ATM.
There is another Paypal MC debit card which you have to pay a fee each month,you can link it to your Paypal account and move money back and forth.
You would be surprised or not surprised many folks do not have bank account,it requires minimum balance,limit of 6 free withdrawals per month,NSF is $35 or more.

agent006140 05-18-2019 09:00 AM

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how much is chargeback fee with Ayden,if you lose a cc dispute?


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