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Adyen is using Cleartax to verify identity.
 

I'm looking at this. it says it wants to check your KYC identity and has a section where it says you can check and see if you are KYC compliant. Do become KYC compliant they want you to submit the following items

Documents required for KYC
Investors need to submit the following documents along with their Know Your Client application form and a passport size photograph.

a. ID Proof: PAN Card, Driving License, Passport copy, Voter ID, Aadhaar Card or bank photo passbook.

b. Proof of Address: Recent landline or mobile bill, electricity bill, passport copy, recent demat account statement, latest bank passbook, ration card, Voter ID, rental agreement, Driving License or Aadhaar card.

I know there are people on these forums that sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ versions of these but the question is do they verify them?

I'm also confused because I called Ayden a few weeks back and they said because my account was through eBay I would never have to submit an ID.

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I highly doubt they will request this from every person wanting to sell something on ebay. It makes no sense for them to try doing that as it will 'kill' the whole attempt to switch to adyen before it ever began.

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I think the fact that my account had 1000 dollars in deposits in 5 days was probably an issue. Paypal would do the same thing. I didn't think it would be an issue since it was an established eBay account.

Just wondering if it's possible to establish a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID with Cleatax using ⊗⊗⊗⊗ docs.

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Look what I just found.


Sending in ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID for KYC checks

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2975942.0;all

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This is just crazy. From the looks of this, you get your ⊗⊗⊗⊗ docs, build an online presence for them, maybe a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ credit report (I learned how to do that yesterday, crazy easy) and then this KYC check thing says hey, this is a real person.

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it would probably be a good idea for all of us to start building ⊗⊗⊗⊗ online profiles for our ⊗⊗⊗⊗ identities now.

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Is it just me or does doing this sound instead of preventing fraud it actually makes it easier to commit?

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Thanks for the link. Cool stuff. I've been wondering for a while why "credit report entries" are being sold online...

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Bit of column A, bit of column B...

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No one is saying they will. Why do you keep saying this?

Lucynda is trying to get a stealth account with an LLC working with it.

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eBay is killing themselves if every sellers needs to do this crap. The whole point is ebay is small time folks, selling some used goods for cheap prices.

Nobody has time for this or wants to give this much info.

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Facts!!

That's why I'm not trippin. I know eBay needs "us" just as much as we need them. The day eBay requires ID/SSN to sell will be the death of eBay. They need to stay in their own lane.

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Not even close. There are single sellers on there nowdays that probably outsell as small sellers combined.

The whole point of eBay is PROFIT. No matter what...

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eBay is moving in the direction of being a platform for big sellers because that is the only way to compete with Amazon.

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I was really shocked by how relatively easy it is to set this up.

For people just setting up accounts to sell some things from around the house, I kinda see this as a non-issue because they won't be worried about their info being linked to old shut down accounts. Slokor sells accounts so this is probably going to be an issue for him. It's going to make his business more complicated.

However, if Beautiful over on the Amazon side of thing can create successfully verified Amazon accounts (which do require photo Id's and documents) then I'm sure eBay account sellers can too. The biggest problem I see with that is the EIN because you can't sell an EIN, but I think you can update it.

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What if you're from EU?

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I don't know about EU.

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I think the good thing is now we know and it will give everyone a chance to start working on their ⊗⊗⊗⊗ identities.

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By creating social media accounts?

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Compete with Amazon? Your joking right? That's a fight eBay wants none of. Amazon will put eBay out of business faster than redbox did blockbuster.

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Not really. eBay is growing and becoming more attractive to consumers. Btw, eBay still has the kind of traffic that will bring you big sums of money if you know what and where to sell.

Sellers are being beaten up by Amazon day and night, maybe there will be an exodus somewhere in the future :lol: who knows!

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That's 100% not true. You are severely underestimating the "small sellers". eBay is as dependent on small sellers as they are on eBay. There isn't one seller on ebay making even a fraction of the "small sellers" combined. Of course there are high volume sellers who make up a large percent of the marketplace, but they are outnumbered 1000 to 1 on eBay. "Small sellers" are at least half of the marketplace and the only reason ebay still exist. If they weed the small sellers out not only will they lose a huge percentage of their sales, it will start a trickle down effect that will slowly be the death of ebay. People shop on ebay for deals. No small sellers = no deals. People will stop buying on there and you get the rest right? lol If you think large companies are concerns about the future of ebay your mistaken. Of course they are going to sell on ebay because it's sales they don't wanna miss out on. But why would a company like Foot Locker pay the huge fees and deal with the ridiculous buyer protections when they can sell on their website with no fees and able to make their own regulations? Or on Amazon that does 10x the business ebay does? That's why I'm not freaking out about what's to come with eBay. If they go the route of verifying each seller like amazon, me and many others will take our business elsewhere. I know that we have products that people want to buy and can make a profit on. Those customers will still be out there. It's all about finding out how to get to them.

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Not sure where your getting that info at but that definitely not the case. eBays share of the ecommerce market declines every year. 10 years ago they were comparable. Now Amazon sells in a month what ebay does in a year. Amazon could care less about the small sellers on here that are being "beaten up".

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Whilst eBay aren't (and can't) directly compete with Amazon, they are definitely mimicking a lot of Amazon's features.

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As any company would when another is kicking their ass. But seeing what another business is doing well and trying to implement it into your own and trying to "compete" with that business are two completely different things. There is a market for eBay and Amazon. There isn't a market for a 2nd Amazon.

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@topnotchsports:


Most of the sellers on eBay never heard about stealth. So if eBay implements a policy to verify them, most will comply with no complaining.

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That's 100% not true.

There are individual sellers on ebay who sell more in ONE DAY than most small sellers sell in a year.

But whatever...

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I disagree. You think Joe Schmo working a full time job & selling stuff around his house to make a few extra bucks, is going to jump through the hoops that Amazon sellers have to? I don't

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It won't be the same kind of hoops. I think most joe blow part time sellers will willingly hand over an ID selfie to eBay without thinking twice. It's the norm now.

BTW I agree with most of what you say but I think you are wrong about eBay not trying to compete with Amazon. The signs of eBay competing with Amazon are in our faces every day. eBay is rolling out their "product catalog" and "managed payments" in an effort to emulate the Amazon experience and capture back some business from them.

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I wouldn't worry about that, there's no way they can do the same to Europe.

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Among other things.

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Are you serious? Do you realize how easy the situation in the US is compared to the EU with respect to stealth?

The EU just made eBay and Amazon liable for any uncollected VAT from sellers operating on such platforms. Thus eBay & Amazon are asking all sellers to upload a VAT document (which will be checked thoroughly btw).

The name on the VAT document must match with the name on your eBay account.


Germany for example is way too bureaucratic in comparison to the US. So please expect more hurdles not less :deadhorse:

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That's Germany, not the entire Union, nonetheless this won't affect me at all.

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I don't know exactly what direction eBay is heading in the next few years. They are making lots of changes and we will have to kind of wait and see. I'm saying if eBay decides to emulate or "compete" with Amazon it will be a colossal failure. eBay can try whatever they want, but they will never capture Amazon customers back. Amazon is a beast that will only continue to grow and monopolize the ecommerce market. There is still a major need for marketplace like eBay. But if eBay tries to structure itself like amazon they will run themselves into a wall. That's just my opinion though.

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The best thing for us all to do is to try to spread our sources of income around as much as possible to make issues like this a little less scary. I started working on offline sources of income last year.

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Lucynda was curious how youve been doing these last two months! Any updated information you have found out?

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Topnitchsports I agree with you on a lot of what your saying I think if they start asking for all these documents etc a lot of people won’t sell just a big inconvenience for small time sellers I think it will all work out if not I guess it’s 9-5 everyone but that’s life live and adapt is all we can do

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Was talking to an employee and she told me that PayPal will still be an option on eBay but she isn’t sure if adyen is mandatory. They are still working that part out.

I still think it’ll be mandatory from everything I have read so far.

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They are probably thinking as a BUYER PayPal will still be an option. As a seller, PayPal will NOT be an option.

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Probably, she said as a seller both will be an option