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Leader2dark 04-30-2019 04:28 PM

Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center...ml#m22_tb_a2_4

Drop shipping, where you fulfill orders directly from a wholesale supplier, is allowed on eBay. However, listing an item on eBay and then purchasing the item from another retailer or marketplace that ships directly to your customer is not allowed.

Be aware and be alert. This can now get you banned for sure.

agent006140 04-30-2019 06:30 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
I dont see that from your linked pages?

Camaro2SS 04-30-2019 07:31 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
You just found out? This new policy has been in place for at least 3-4 month now. BTW I am still DSing from AMZ.

Camaro2SS 04-30-2019 07:42 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 

Leader2dark 04-30-2019 07:50 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro2SS (Post 998705)
You just found out? This new policy has been in place for at least 3-4 month now. BTW I am still DSing from AMZ.

It seems to be rolling out officially now. Where did they list it being banned before?

degsey69 04-30-2019 08:02 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro2SS (Post 998706)

That is correct, they do not want you to do FBA from Amazon and advertise their website, you can do drop ship from fulfilled by merchant on Amazon.

What I want to stop is other eBay sellers listing my product for more money then get me to send their orders for them. I believe that violates PayPal's policy that if you do not have the stock you should not take the money.

What is especially annoying is that I have one seller who is in Bulgaria has a foreign registered PayPal account, states they are shipping from the USA.

2 bad points about this is these buyers if you upset them on one order can leave you loads of negative feedback over one instance and eBay is now withholding foreign registered PayPal account holders money in my PayPal account until the order is delivered then released.

In fact these drop shipping schemes that you see advertised on you tube are the next biggest scam. Just think about it if I had a great business running making loads of money from drop shipping why would I teach others to do it.

Camaro2SS 04-30-2019 08:41 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader2dark (Post 998709)
It seems to be rolling out officially now. Where did they list it being banned before?

Please look at the screenshot I provided. It’s on their official website.

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/po...ipping?id=4176

Camaro2SS 04-30-2019 08:51 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by degsey69 (Post 998710)
That is correct, they do not want you to do FBA from Amazon and advertise their website, you can do drop ship from fulfilled by merchant on Amazon.

What I want to stop is other eBay sellers listing my product for more money then get me to send their orders for them. I believe that violates PayPal's policy that if you do not have the stock you should not take the money.

What is especially annoying is that I have one seller who is in Bulgaria has a foreign registered PayPal account, states they are shipping from the USA.

2 bad points about this is these buyers if you upset them on one order can leave you loads of negative feedback over one instance and eBay is now withholding foreign registered PayPal account holders money in my PayPal account until the order is delivered then released.

In fact these drop shipping schemes that you see advertised on you tube are the next biggest scam. Just think about it if I had a great business running making loads of money from drop shipping why would I teach others to do it.

Brother you are very misinformed. I wish could type more but I am on my phone. Anyways PayPal has never had policy against drop shipping. There are plenty of drop shippers that use traffic from Facebook to drop ship from Ali express. I have personally provided PayPal documents showing I drop ship from Amazon on numerous occasions.

I don’t know of any drop shipper who would leave negative feedback or negative review to other Amazon sellers. I have never done that or have even thought to do that. Also a lot of drop shippers aren’t only using Amazon so even if this was an issue it doesn’t apply to other retail sources.

You have no idea how profitable drop shipping business is. While I would agree that coming up with a course on DS and advertising it on YouTube is a bit scammy it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t work. It works very well unless you know what you are doing otherwise like with any business you will fail.

agent006140 04-30-2019 09:26 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
DROPshipping from wholesaler/manufacturer has been around since day of commerce,some items are shipped direct from the factory,nothing wrong with that,but the sellers are usually licensed distributor or retailers who have an account with the manufacturer/distributor.
but listing hundreds of photos from AMZN with a small markup and then make AMZN ship to your Ebay buyers often turn the buyer off,what some do is to file item not as described and return the item and then buy from AMZN direct for less.
Some sellers wont even ask you to return the item,just refund your money.
Unless you are selling high ticket items with high markup,else you have to rely on volume to make it worthwhile,after ebay FVF and Paypal fee/

Fuhrer84 04-30-2019 09:43 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 998690)
I dont see that from your linked pages?

Check your ebay messages today about 2019 spring update

agent006140 05-01-2019 08:01 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
I am glad Ebay finally do something ,my recent purchases of consumer goods like food and utensils all come from AMZN,WMT,JET.COM,COSTCO.

ebaystealth1974 05-01-2019 10:56 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 998854)
I am glad Ebay finally do something ,my recent purchases of consumer goods like food and utensils all come from AMZN,WMT,JET.COM,COSTCO.

Who cares?

Have you EVER recieved a package from ebay? :lol:

agent006140 05-01-2019 12:29 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
yes,I received plenty of packages from Ebay sellers,goingback to 1990s.
You may not care but I do,and plenty of other Ebay buyers do too,and they left negative feedback,and/or return the items as item, not as described,making the seller look bad.

ebaystealth1974 05-01-2019 07:48 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 998923)
yes,I received plenty of packages from Ebay sellers,goingback to 1990s.


I said ebay. Not ebay SELLERS.

I'm not gonna lie. I'd block you as a buyer on ebay.

agent006140 05-02-2019 06:56 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 999040)
I said ebay. Not ebay SELLERS.

I'm not gonna lie. I'd block you as a buyer on ebay.

Ebay only sell its shipping supply,I get them free from Ebay.
You dont have to block me,I dont buy with this account,I can spot an AMZN reseller miles away!

sax4 05-02-2019 07:02 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 998854)
I am glad Ebay finally do something ,my recent purchases of consumer goods like food and utensils all come from AMZN,WMT,JET.COM,COSTCO.

Do something about what? you being lazy and not shopping around? Go to the shops on the street and you will find the same product sold at different prices in different shops, should they do something about that too?

agent006140 05-02-2019 07:51 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
WE CAN ARGUE ALL DAY LONG BUT EBAY does not like it,and the buyers do not like it.
so if buyers keep negging you,report to Ebay,sabatage your seller account,filing item not as described,you may not find it profitable to continue,it is up to you,of course you are going to tell us how well you are doing despite all the above.

agent006140 05-02-2019 07:54 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Some sellers have their AMZN prime membership suspended due to too many returns,one sells electronics on Ebay and AMZN suspended his prime account due to too many returns.
TV sets,laptops,cameras,smart phones,these returned items are costing AMZN too much money

agent006140 05-02-2019 11:12 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 999097)
Do something about what? you being lazy and not shopping around? Go to the shops on the street and you will find the same product sold at different prices in different shops, should they do something about that too?

Total hogwash !
if I buy an item from Macy and later find out it is cheaper at Nordstrom,does Macy say because you are being lazy and not shop around?
Do you call this good customer service?
Anyway,it is not up to us,it is up to the venue,Ebay does not like it,and it is going to punish ,are you going to tell ebay because buyers are too lazy to shop around?
Do you think Ebay is going to buy this argument and unban you?
Come back and tell us when you win the argument,I will paypal you $1k

treysupreme 05-02-2019 01:18 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader2dark (Post 998677)
This can now get you banned for sure.

I've lost two newish accounts for dropshipping from retailers/amz. eBay didn't give a reason for the permaban but that's the only thing it could be.

Interestingly I have two older accounts (3-5 years old) that are fine and have 3-4 times as many monthly orders. Age of the account may be factor

agent006140 05-02-2019 04:56 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by treysupreme (Post 999183)
I've lost two newish accounts for dropshipping from retailers/amz. eBay didn't give a reason for the permaban but that's the only thing it could be.

Interestingly I have two older accounts (3-5 years old) that are fine and have 3-4 times as many monthly orders. Age of the account may be factor

do the new accounts list only amzn items?
and your older accounts are amzn and your own items?
it could be tracking number which gives the clue?

treysupreme 05-02-2019 06:30 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 999239)
do the new accounts list only amzn items?
and your older accounts are amzn and your own items?
it could be tracking number which gives the clue?

Mix of amazon and other retailers. Same story on the accounts that aren't banned. I think its more leeway for older accounts. IDK though

Work around I've thought of would be to send buyer a letter/padded envelope with tracking and inside just say "thanks for your purchase, your item was shipped directly via amazon with tracking number (amazon tracking # etc). That way your packages all ship from same location and they can't claim not received.

agent006140 05-02-2019 07:10 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
That would cost you an extra $2.86 which would wipe out the profit many AMZN resellers make.
I just received an item bought on Ebay for 4.63 and shipped by AMZN ,cost is $4.01,unless the seller is using her points,I dont see how this is a profitable transaction after ebay and paypal fees.
ebay fee and Paypal fee would be 0.43 plus 0.46 =0.89?
also if buyer wants to return the item,you would have to give her an AMZN return label if it is free return??

Leader2dark 05-02-2019 07:25 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by treysupreme (Post 999249)
Mix of amazon and other retailers. Same story on the accounts that aren't banned. I think its more leeway for older accounts. IDK though

Work around I've thought of would be to send buyer a letter/padded envelope with tracking and inside just say "thanks for your purchase, your item was shipped directly via amazon with tracking number (amazon tracking # etc). That way your packages all ship from same location and they can't claim not received.

How much money do you make drop shipping? I have just never seen how its worth it.

For me, if I'm not making at least 50% margins a sale, it's not worth it.

I just thought it was all 3rd world people, where 2$ a day is a big deal.

agent006140 05-02-2019 07:38 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Work around I've thought of would be to send buyer a letter/padded envelope with tracking and inside just say "thanks for your purchase, your item was shipped directly via amazon with tracking number (amazon tracking # etc). That way your packages all ship from same location and they can't claim not received.
-------------------------------------------------------
-if you go this route,buyer will end up with 2 packages,one is empty with a note and the other is from AMZN.
Some order many items from different sellers and venues,they could think you send them an empty envelope and file item not as described,?
AMZN shipping and tracking number is useless for item not as described,they are complaining about your shipment,not amzn

Camaro2SS 05-02-2019 09:11 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
I am just glad no one here thinks drop shipping is profitable. Please for the love of God stay ignorant! There is enough competition already, we don’t need anymore. ;)

Camaro2SS 05-02-2019 09:35 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Drop shipping literally saved me from completely going under after many successful years of selling on eBay. I don’t know about others here but I’ve always been selling legitimate none VeRO products. The main issue most drop shippers including myself are having is a trademark takedowns and yes the profit isn’t like what I used have when sourcing products from China however if you are able to maintain at least 100k sales a month you can still make a good decent profit. Of course there are a multitude of other issues that may come up but that’s what I love about this game. Only the smartest and determined survive. Also I don’t think you have to be actually intelligent to be a drop shipper but you definitely need to be smart about it.

Yasav 05-02-2019 10:01 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro2SS (Post 999270)
Drop shipping literally saved me from completely going under after many successful years of selling on eBay. I don’t know about others here but I’ve always been selling legitimate none VeRO products. The main issue most drop shippers including myself are having is a trademark takedowns and yes the profit isn’t like what I used have when sourcing products from China however if you are able to maintain at least 100k sales a month you can still make a good decent profit. Of course there are a multitude of other issues that may come up but that’s what I love about this game. Only the smartest and determined survive. Also I don’t think you have to be actually intelligent to be a drop shipper but you definitely need to be smart about it.

Do you employ any VAs or just do everything yourself?

Yasav 05-02-2019 10:02 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 999250)
That would cost you an extra $2.86 which would wipe out the profit many AMZN resellers make.
I just received an item bought on Ebay for 4.63 and shipped by AMZN ,cost is $4.01,unless the seller is using her points,I dont see how this is a profitable transaction after ebay and paypal fees.
ebay fee and Paypal fee would be 0.43 plus 0.46 =0.89?
also if buyer wants to return the item,you would have to give her an AMZN return label if it is free return??

They make 5% cash back if they use Amazon's CC. Also, paying EB fees with a 3% cash back CC.

Fuhrer84 05-02-2019 10:16 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasav (Post 999274)
They make 5% cash back if they use Amazon's CC. Also, paying EB fees with a 3% cash back CC.

Plus 5% if you used sites like ebates.com if you buying from amazon thru it

Camaro2SS 05-02-2019 11:58 PM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasav (Post 999273)
Do you employ any VAs or just do everything yourself?

That’s the thing .... I never employed any VAs. I simply do not trust others with my business and I am not saying you shouldn’t hire a few VAs to help you but make sure you train them well and make sure you monitor what they do or else they will screw up your entire account. However I know that in a long run you just can’t run this business without help. So maybe eventually I will hire. I know of some drop shippers that have over 50.

Yasav 05-03-2019 12:22 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro2SS (Post 999292)
That’s the thing .... I never employed any VAs. I simply do not trust others with my business and I am not saying you shouldn’t hire a few VAs to help you but make sure you train them well and make sure you monitor what they do or else they will screw up your entire account. However I know that in a long run you just can’t run this business without help. So maybe eventually I will hire. I know of some drop shippers that have over 50.

100k/mo w/o VAs? I suppose you're dropshipping high-ticket items? How many listings do you run?

Leader2dark 05-03-2019 06:53 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
You must be crying eBay is cracking down? Sounds like bans will be issued to any retail drop shipper.

It does not seem possible to me to hide drop shipping unless eBay really is just dumb as hell. Even then, buyers and competitors could report you.

rsot 05-03-2019 07:01 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasav (Post 999293)
100k/mo w/o VAs? I suppose you're dropshipping high-ticket items? How many listings do you run?

Interesting approach

sax4 05-03-2019 07:51 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 999156)
Total hogwash !
if I buy an item from Macy and later find out it is cheaper at Nordstrom,does Macy say because you are being lazy and not shop around?
Do you call this good customer service?
Anyway,it is not up to us,it is up to the venue,Ebay does not like it,and it is going to punish ,are you going to tell ebay because buyers are too lazy to shop around?
Do you think Ebay is going to buy this argument and unban you?
Come back and tell us when you win the argument,I will paypal you $1k

No because that's not good customer service, but I can tell you you're lazy because I dont give a f*ck

Do you really think I give a damn about Ebay banning me, or Amazon banning me? I've been dropshipping with Amazon and selling on Ebay for ten years. There's no argument, because I just fire up another acccount.

Dropshipping is a valid business model used by many international retailers, Ebay and Amazon are dropshippers FFS and the fact that you are hating on it, is a clear display of jealously. There's been plenty of dropshipping denialists on here and most of them are under-achievers

Sunspot144 05-03-2019 08:00 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Ha, who cares now really if DSing is going to get harder. I'd be losing my $hit TBH.

agent006140 05-03-2019 08:19 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 999367)
No because that's not good customer service, but I can tell you you're lazy because I dont give a f*ck

Do you really think I give a damn about Ebay banning me, or Amazon banning me? I've been dropshipping with Amazon and selling on Ebay for ten years. There's no argument, because I just fire up another acccount.

Dropshipping is a valid business model used by many international retailers, Ebay and Amazon are dropshippers FFS and the fact that you are hating on it, is a clear display of jealously. There's been plenty of dropshipping denialists on here and most of them are under-achievers

I have no reason to be jealous of your dropship business,it just tell me you are a sleazy merchant who exploits others to do the work for you and you lack capital to build your own inventory.
as to being lazy,who is being lazy-you.
I can also ask you -are you too lazy or stupid not to buy from the manufacturer and wholesale distributor at a true wholsale price instead of buying from a retailer called AMZN and pay retail price?
buying retail and selling retail aint too smart !!!!!!!!!

agent006140 05-03-2019 08:26 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader2dark (Post 999344)
You must be crying eBay is cracking down? Sounds like bans will be issued to any retail drop shipper.

It does not seem possible to me to hide drop shipping unless eBay really is just dumb as hell. Even then, buyers and competitors could report you.

Ebay has to do something,every time a package arrived ,it said AMZN,COSTCO,WMT,JET.COM,the buyer will go to these sites and find out they can buy for less,it is free advertising for these sites,not to mention boosting their online sales.
Ebay offers free listings,these days you have to go thru pages and pages of similar/identical listings to find what you are looking for.and then you have to make sure they are truly based in US and ship from USA.
And Ebay loves its Chinese sellers,if they ship from CHina,you have to give them 30 days for the item to be delivered.
not all dropshipping is banned,you can dropship from manufacturer and wholesale distributors,no one expects you to stock every model,every design.

Leader2dark 05-03-2019 08:32 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
Drop shipping is no longer welcome on eBay. Sure you can fire up more accounts, they will be banned as well. I guess if it's still worth your time, have fun with all the BS.

Anytime I get an item that is drop shipped, I'm reporting it, returning it and leaving negative feedback. And I'm well within my rights to do it, eBay has made that clear now.

agent006140 05-03-2019 10:02 AM

Re: Drop shipping from Amazon to eBay is now a Violation
 
HOW DO YOU REPORT A SELLER?
The report this item or seller button is gone !


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