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Pandoras_box 01-11-2020 09:43 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
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Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 1060483)
I want him to disclose he is shipping from HK, I messaged him but then saw he had 92K feedback and his hundreds of ads all say shipped from USA? He is selling some less than what a tracked item cost sent across town in LA? Should not be able to falsify shipping location. I thought that was a no no with eBay?
But to answer your question. YES!

You have no transaction with this seller yet you're doing your best to report their listings even contacting him/her.

You're not doing this because you want eBay to be a better place - as you're here breaking eBay's rule with your stealth accounts. Hypocrisy

So why don't we call this what it really is: a little something inside you just dies that this seller's shop is a massive success right?

Envy, especially one borne of resentful contemplation of a more fortunate person, is a terrible thing.

Perhaps you should think positively how to grow your own business - and succeed as he has. :thumb:

Pandoras_box 01-11-2020 09:49 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1060633)
Very tough to implement

Corporate bodies will turn a blind eye to how their actions affect the economy of any country especially when there's money to be made.
Manufacturing was moved to China to save money in the first place.

james13v 01-11-2020 10:06 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
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Originally Posted by yangleizxm (Post 1060908)
it's impossible, even you banned we can use other country's account to go on sell :)

And the second tracking shows a Chinese tracking number, you should be instantly banned for circumventing the system. EASY. No matter how much your government helps you, there is no way you can get around something like that, period. If you want the savings from government subsidized shipping, you have to used Chinese shipping. If you don't use Chinese shipping, you can't sell things for the absurdly low amounts you're selling them for. Boom, The Chinese problem is over and maybe then you'd actually have to compete on a level playing field. Lets see how long you last then.

james13v 01-11-2020 10:08 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1060946)
They dont have to lie about where they are or where their merchandise is,many buyers know they will wait up to 30 days to get their goods,some dropship from an outift in CALIFORNIA.

I'm sorry, but if the shipping location shows America, you'd have to be a complete moron, to be ok with your item taking 30 days to ship, IN AMERICA.

Scary thing is, if you buy from China, ebay doesn't even allow INR cases to be opened, for 59 days. But god forbid I ship to another country, buyers can open up cases in a couple weeks.

Pandoras_box 01-11-2020 10:09 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1060712)
Basically impossible to enforce.

The Chinese are very very good at circumnavigating any sort of geographical location limitations. It would be impossible to enforce. and wouldn't be good from a consumer POV


There are many, many ways around it. There are ample things the west can do now that will eventually cripple china economically, forcing them to collapse upon their own weight. I have written several papers on this particular topic and the rise of China since 2012.

But I think the west is asleep to the danger that is unfolding.

We're busy arguing about rights, freedom, religion and fighting terrorism - which when all combined; aren't nearly as dangerous as the powershift that may take place in a few decades if the west does not do something soon.

james13v 01-11-2020 10:09 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1060958)
You have no transaction with this seller yet you're doing your best to report their listings even contacting him/her.

You're not doing this because you want eBay to be a better place - as you're here breaking eBay's rule with your stealth accounts. Hypocrisy

So why don't we call this what it really is: a little something inside you just dies that this seller's shop is a massive success right?

Envy, especially one borne of resentful contemplation of a more fortunate person, is a terrible thing.

Perhaps you should think positively how to grow your own business - and succeed as he has. :thumb:

LOL succeed as he has? There is a difference between lying to ebay, and lying to your customers. BIG difference. The only way for him to better his business, would be to lie to his customers.

I bet you'd also be upset with me for taking down accounts that are selling counterfeit goods? Cause it's all envy, right?

agent006140 01-11-2020 10:13 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
they will still have an advantage ,they buy direct from the factory in Chinese $$,the exchange rate is 1 US dollar to 6 1/2 Chinese dollar,workers layoff from the factories sometimes are given merchandise instead of severance pay,so they need to sell and raise cash,some dumpster dive or steal!
if you sell the same item and charge $3.95 shipping with tracking,that $3.95 comes to $26 Chinese dollars,they can still ship cheaper than you with tracking using China Post or other carriers.
The solution is not sell what they sell.

agent006140 01-11-2020 10:15 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Think Russia and Russian goods.
The exchange rate is US$1 = 61 Russian rubles,I was watching Youtube ,a Russian local cafeteria and how much it cost to eat there,you can have a nice meal for under US$5

Kajunrook 01-11-2020 10:16 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1060956)
Give us a listing to look at....


Mens Gothic Punk Silver Gold Stainless Steel FTW Middle Finger Biker Rings Band

$5.99 is the list price, cannot report as says only report active listings on ALL of the items.,

Kajunrook 01-11-2020 10:19 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1060958)
You have no transaction with this seller yet you're doing your best to report their listings even contacting him/her.

You're not doing this because you want eBay to be a better place - as you're here breaking eBay's rule with your stealth accounts. Hypocrisy

So why don't we call this what it really is: a little something inside you just dies that this seller's shop is a massive success right?

Envy, especially one borne of resentful contemplation of a more fortunate person, is a terrible thing.

Perhaps you should think positively how to grow your own business - and succeed as he has. :thumb:

1. You don't know what you are talking about. I don't sell YET in his category.
2. My account is NOT STEALTH - so STFU
3. I have zero ENVY of the dude, just playing field needs to be level.
4. My business grows daily, don't need YOUR advice.
5. He has succeeded by cheating the system.

james13v 01-11-2020 10:32 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 1060982)
Mens Gothic Punk Silver Gold Stainless Steel FTW Middle Finger Biker Rings Band

$5.99 is the list price, cannot report as says only report active listings on ALL of the items.,

the ironic part is lol They say they won't ship to Hong Kong

Also, I just reported them. Zero issues.

james13v 01-11-2020 10:35 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1060986)
Waste of time thread, the 'report item' facility is working perfectly well.

It's not a waste of time thread. It's a waste of time on that single aspect of the thread. And even then, you can say it's not a waste of time, because now we know ebay blocks some people from reporting sellers. Learning how ebay works, is never a waste of time.

Pandoras_box 01-11-2020 10:35 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1060974)
The only way for him to better his business, would be to lie to his customers...


Now how am I going to get my damaged brain cells fixed? :lol:

james13v 01-11-2020 10:37 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
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Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1060990)
Now how am I going to get my damaged brain cells fixed? :lol:

Are you really going to deny it? He's competing against a guy that's lying and is able to sell so much, that his lies don't seem to actually come back and hurt him. How oh how, is the OP supposed to compete against this guy, without also lying about where his item is coming from? Sure as hell can't sell at the same price. So go on, tell us how you would do better. Aside from going into a different category, because sellers can easily do the same thing in every category.

Kajunrook 01-11-2020 10:48 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1060988)
the ironic part is lol They say they won't ship to Hong Kong

Also, I just reported them. Zero issues.

Why would it ban me from reporting. I have NEVER reported an item in my life and none of my listings compete with his YET.

Pandoras_box 01-11-2020 11:17 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 1060984)
1. You don't know what you are talking about. I don't sell YET in his category.

Of course, such a goodfella - you woke up one morning checked up a random category, found a seller who's violating policy, looked up all his listings (remember he has 90k feedback)
and now you're chasing him up and down because you want to set him aright.
Have you thought about volunteering for a charity?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 1060984)
2. My account is NOT STEALTH - so STFU

"Temper, temper, mon capitaine; I'm merely trying to assist one pitiful species...”
So you have over 1200 posts on a stealth website and no stealth accounts?
Are you sure about that? In your previous threads, you have informed us that your personal account had been banned. In fact, you have had subsequent accounts that have also been banned. You have also bought accounts here and sold items on those accounts.
Shall we just call you Pinocchio?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 1060984)
3. I have zero ENVY of the dude, just playing field needs to be level.

eBay banned your personal account because they wanted to create a level playing field for everyone. This is always implied in the email they send out with suspensions.
But you have circumvented that suspension by using several accounts, disregarding the level playing field that eBay had implemented by banning you.

Same thing with this seller. He or she is violating some eBay rule or policy. He's circumvented it to his advantage. Both of you have one advantage each over eBay policy, therefore it's a level playing field between the two of you but you're probably seething.

As you can see, it's envy. But I'll be happy to add hypocrisy to it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 1060984)
4. My business grows daily, don't need YOUR advice.

Then be happy with it and don't go destroying other people's business. Remember that the growth of your business is completely built your successful circumvention of eBay suspension.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 1060984)
5. He has succeeded by cheating the system.

So have you, child, so have you - even multiple times.

Pandoras_box 01-11-2020 11:38 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1060991)
Are you really going to deny it? He's competing against a guy that's lying and is able to sell so much, that his lies don't seem to actually come back and hurt him. How oh how, is the OP supposed to compete against this guy, without also lying about where his item is coming from? Sure as hell can't sell at the same price. So go on, tell us how you would do better. Aside from going into a different category, because sellers can easily do the same thing in every category.


OP says he's not competing with the seller. He isn't even selling in that category - and that makes the situation awful as this isn't about competition in the first place.

I question his motive and ruthlessness in this particular case, especially when there's no competition, and it is not interfering with his business in any way.

He said he went through all the seller's listings. I presume he misspoke on that one but can you imagine how long it would have taken him to go through only 5% of all those listings for a seller with over 90k feedback? I can understand researching your competitors for commercial reasons, but OP has got to have issues and a lot of time on his hand to hunt down random sellers with no recourse to himself.

OP has also lied about his use of stealth accounts, so I'd take his posts with a pinch of salt.


To answer your question, I would grow my business by finding profitable items to sell.

dano 01-12-2020 05:19 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Just ban the 99% say ship from Italy, with china business seller info. These are really bad for us, people buy when see shipped from Italy buy, a big part don't buy when see shipped from Taiwan or Hong Kong or China

agent006140 01-12-2020 09:40 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
what is the advantage of saying ship from iTALY when selling China made goods?
I would rather buy China made goods from Chinese sellers in China or HK,some are in USA and would add to the listing,SELLER IS BASED IN USA.
I have bought those US sellers,it would cost me more,but I CAN get it in a few days.

rsot 01-12-2020 09:44 AM

Re: China Seller lists ships USA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1061194)
what is the advantage of saying ship from iTALY when selling China made goods?
I would rather buy China made goods from Chinese sellers in China or HK,some are in USA and would add to the listing,SELLER IS BASED IN USA.
I have bought those US sellers,it would cost me more,but I CAN get it in a few days.

Art of consumerism indeed.


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