How much money has eBay lost?

[stealthwiz]

How much money has eBay lost from banning new seller accounts that they think are stealth but are actually normal users trying to start a business with eBay.

Millions? Maybe Billions?

At some point it would cost them a lot of money to just ban an account and tell the user to never sign up again just because they listed something that was over a certain price point or didn't wait a set amount of time before listing etc.

Is eBay run by a bunch of retards?

[stealthwiz]

Originally Posted by tinsoldier

Nah, they know what they're doing, a little collateral damage is to be expected. They can live with it and I'm going to guess the net cost to them is minimal.

You would think the collateral damage would be the guy creating the stealth account. Not the other way around.

You say eBay knows what they are doing but judging by the negative reviews on google it doesn't seem it like.

[phaz0rz]

They do. They're a fortune 500 company. Without risk management they would have gone out of business a decade ago, because eBay would be just as awful as iOffer was before they went out of business.

Being mad is one thing but it's not really right to blame eBay's policies. Learning how to work around their system is more productive.

[stealthwiz]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

They do. They're a fortune 500 company. Without risk management they would have gone out of business a decade ago, because eBay would be just as awful as iOffer was before they went out of business.

Being mad is one thing but it's not really right to blame eBay's policies. Learning how to work around their system is more productive.

Wasn't Enron a fortune 500 company?

[Frodo]

There are too many scammers out there and ebay is doing everything to prevent them from scamming buyers. it is just a game of calculated risk, statistics and numbers.

Ebay really want buyers, they have enough sellers. They certainly aren't that interested in the average man selling on there anymore, not really.

[glacier922]

But what if we are the big seller? Hmmmm

[dano]

Since they have introduced the sponsored listings...they double money...

[Steveo036940]

This sounds crazy but Ebay makes MORE money while suspending new seller accounts.
Less sellers means less competition, which means sellers can sell for higher prices. The "race to the bottom " on prices is limited when only 5 sellers offer the same product vs. 50 sellers selling the same product.
The selling fees of 10% go up when an item can sell for $50 instead of $40 too many sellers would gravitate their price to.
Ebay is not dumb and knows exactly what they are doing.

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by stealthwiz

Wasn't Enron a fortune 500 company?

Yes.. but they were in a different line of business.

My point was eBay has to scrutinize new sellers like they do if they want to stay relevant. Otherwise eBay would be 70% stealth accounts selling Microsoft codes or whatever other digital product. That kind of seller makes eBay look bad and brings the wrong kind of attention. Amazon has already taken the majority of eBay's buyers, so maybe eBay is finally trying to do something about their reputation as the internet's flea market.

Genuine new sellers aren't having any problems starting off accounts. They're just calling in to answer the questions. Same thing with serious sellers. They're forming their new corporations or LLC's or whatever business type they're using, signing up, and calling in if needed.

They're just trying to make it harder for broke people to make a dozen accounts and scam customers with junk from china, because that's where they really take losses.

[stealthwiz]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

Yes.. but they were in a different line of business.

My point was eBay has to scrutinize new sellers like they do if they want to stay relevant. Otherwise eBay would be 70% stealth accounts selling Microsoft codes or whatever other digital product. That kind of seller makes eBay look bad and brings the wrong kind of attention. Amazon has already taken the majority of eBay's buyers, so maybe eBay is finally trying to do something about their reputation as the internet's flea market.

Genuine new sellers aren't having any problems starting off accounts. They're just calling in to answer the questions. Same thing with serious sellers. They're forming their new corporations or LLC's or whatever business type they're using, signing up, and calling in if needed.

They're just trying to make it harder for broke people to make a dozen accounts and scam customers with junk from china, because that's where they really take losses.

But isn't everything in the world now just cheap China junk?

[yankee]

ebay does not need new sellers. They need LESS sellers.

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by stealthwiz

But isn't everything in the world now just cheap China junk?

Yes. But they want sellers who can afford to take care of their customers if there are problems, instead of sellers who would rather leave it to eBay to mop up their messes. And they know most stealth accounts will just let eBay take their losses while they run away from whatever situation comes up. So they're making it where only serious sellers can sell.

I was talking more about the bulk microsoft codes Chinese vendors are currently pushing, because there's practically no startup costs involved. eBay is having a really hard time with those guys right now.

[stealthwiz]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

Yes. But they want sellers who can afford to take care of their customers if there are problems, instead of sellers who would rather leave it to eBay to mop up their messes. And they know most stealth accounts will just let eBay take their losses while they run away from whatever situation comes up. So they're making it where only serious sellers can sell.

I was talking more about the bulk microsoft codes Chinese vendors are currently pushing, because there's practically no startup costs involved. eBay is having a really hard time with those guys right now.

Always someone who has to ruin it for the rest of us.

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by Steveo036940

This sounds crazy but Ebay makes MORE money while suspending new seller accounts.
Less sellers means less competition, which means sellers can sell for higher prices. The "race to the bottom " on prices is limited when only 5 sellers offer the same product vs. 50 sellers selling the same product.
The selling fees of 10% go up when an item can sell for $50 instead of $40 too many sellers would gravitate their price to.
Ebay is not dumb and knows exactly what they are doing.

I totally agree,Ebay should have done this long ago.
It is bad enough you have to compete with other fellow sellers,and your suppliers,now you have sellers who dont even have any merchandise (retail arbitragers).

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

Yes. But they want sellers who can afford to take care of their customers if there are problems, instead of sellers who would rather leave it to eBay to mop up their messes. And they know most stealth accounts will just let eBay take their losses while they run away from whatever situation comes up. So they're making it where only serious sellers can sell.

I was talking more about the bulk microsoft codes Chinese vendors are currently pushing, because there's practically no startup costs involved. eBay is having a really hard time with those guys right now.

Raise the entry barrier of doing business on Ebay!
We used to pay for listing from 5 cents to 25 cents,extra pictures cost more,we can relist free once if it does not sell.
If one has to pay listing fee,you would see less garbage listed

[ak47uk]

ebay got enough business now.
they do not care new sellers any more.
also, they tried to delete as much as possible risky seller what they thought.

[dano]

eBay should ban and deny selling to dropshipper chinese sellers, they are ruin prices and market

[james_112233]

They will be begging for new sellers if the chinese sellers are booted off.

Ebay / paypal turn a blind eye to their stealth accounts because of the amount of revenue they do. They simply can't refuse the business they bring.

[stealthwiz]

Originally Posted by Steveo036940

This sounds crazy but Ebay makes MORE money while suspending new seller accounts.
Less sellers means less competition, which means sellers can sell for higher prices. The "race to the bottom " on prices is limited when only 5 sellers offer the same product vs. 50 sellers selling the same product.
The selling fees of 10% go up when an item can sell for $50 instead of $40 too many sellers would gravitate their price to.
Ebay is not dumb and knows exactly what they are doing.

Buyers will just go somewhere cheaper. eBay is already a rip off in terms of over priced Chinese junk. Seller buys something from China for $5 and sells it for $100 lol. Talk about price gouging.

[agent006140]

what are you smoking?

[stealthwiz]

Originally Posted by agent006140

what are you smoking?

Why are you being rude?