Trump's ultimatum for eBay on counterfeits. What do you think?

[walkingupwards]

You are an online seller who knows how to shop online. Many categories on Amazon and eBay are full of contraband items.


To be honest, I would love to see the situation kept as it is today because I am profiting from it by selling Chinese made stuff.

Brands are predatory in terms of pricing and customers are more than happy to find affordable "Chinese" stuff online.

The Trump approach to this will backfire and this wasn't a wise way to deal with this, counterfeiting is soon to be a 2 trillion dollar industry so it is more lucrative than illicit drugs and arms trade combined. You do the numbers and figure out if Trump can stop this.


Had the war on drugs worked? That answer also applies to the question of counterfeiting.

[james13v]

war on drugs is a completely different situation. The people that want drugs, will buy drugs.Making it illegal, just made it worse.

The point of all this tho, is to prevent ⊗⊗⊗⊗ being sold as real. If you subjugate ⊗⊗⊗⊗ to the black market, it will kill off the industry, because they rely on people paying extravagant prices for products that are ⊗⊗⊗⊗, because they don't know it's ⊗⊗⊗⊗. Unlike drugs, you can't sell $100 worth of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ weed for $2000, the way you can with a $100 ⊗⊗⊗⊗ watch. Destroying their ability to sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ to people that think it's real, on legitimate venues, would DESTROY the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ market. Do not conflate the two situations.

[animekings99]

This is my 1st time of hearing this thank you for posting this. There's bigger problems in the world to worry about then this stuff

[walkingupwards]

Originally Posted by james13v

war on drugs is a completely different situation. The people that want drugs, will buy drugs.Making it illegal, just made it worse.

The point of all this tho, is to prevent ⊗⊗⊗⊗ being sold as real. If you subjugate ⊗⊗⊗⊗ to the black market, it will kill off the industry, because they rely on people paying extravagant prices for products that are ⊗⊗⊗⊗, because they don't know it's ⊗⊗⊗⊗. Unlike drugs, you can't sell $100 worth of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ weed for $2000, the way you can with a $100 ⊗⊗⊗⊗ watch. Destroying their ability to sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ to people that think it's real, on legitimate venues, would DESTROY the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ market. Do not conflate the two situations.

Bro, do you really buy the story that people don't know they're buying ⊗⊗⊗⊗?!!

[animekings99]

Originally Posted by walkingupwards

I don't think Amazon and eBay will bow down without a court fight. Trump can't just make new laws out of the blue and start fining them


40% of the products sold on Amazon are counterfeits, so shutting that down will crash Amazon's stock price and drive investors away.

Hopefully this will blow over they need to worry about other concerns then ⊗⊗⊗⊗ items. As the buyers want to buy ⊗⊗⊗⊗ item so be it if they want to buy authentic item so be it.

It all comes down to the buyer's money and expenses that's on them.

[animekings99]

I would say the biggest pusher for ⊗⊗⊗⊗ where's is wish.com The buyers know it and they don't care they want a cheap.

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by walkingupwards

Bro, do you really buy the story that people don't know they're buying ⊗⊗⊗⊗?!!

some do not know they are ⊗⊗⊗⊗,they buy the story of so and so needs money so here is a Rolex watch or a diamond tiara or a Monet/Picasso/Warhol.

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by animekings99

I would say the biggest pusher for ⊗⊗⊗⊗ where's is wish.com The buyers know it and they don't care they want a cheap.

You get what you pay for,some counterfeits can be well made ,some fall apart,

[SGT18]

It has happened already in my category. All listing and accounts are banned even the genuine sellers are going down as collateral damage...

[animekings99]

Hopefully they don't try to shut down this website I just watched some videos on YouTube and these ppl are pissed . There really pointing the finger on Amazon lol they never said ebay. Go and look these up on YouTube a ton of videos

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by SGT18

It has happened already in my category. All listing and accounts are banned even the genuine sellers are going down as collateral damage...

WHAT IS YOUR CATEGORY?
A likely scenario would be the brand name retailers are coming ,so clear way for the real McCoy!
THey did that with AAPL on AMZN

[SGT18]

It is not VERO or brand complain, it is eBay and they are wiping everyone out without a notice even if you are a genuine seller. Category is clothing.

[agent006140]

all clothing or certain designer clothing.
what I mean in my last post is that like AMZN who now sell AAPL products so it banished AAPL refurbished sellers,Ebay could ban all used designer clothes if that designer or dept stores which sell his clothings come to sell on Ebay.
Say ifRalph Lauren who has its own website,if it decides to open a store on EBAY,it does not want to see individual selling his clothings on Ebay.
Say can be said of NIKE,ADIDAS,Louis Vitreon,Coach

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by SGT18

It is not VERO or brand complain, it is eBay and they are wiping everyone out without a notice even if you are a genuine seller. Category is clothing.

it cant be all clothing,it will have to wipe out hundred of thousands listings,it must be certain designer or brand name clothings.
You know sales venues could be held liable for counterfeits and knockoffs,even FBA will be classified as ultimate consignee when goods are at their warehouse not yet sold to consumers.

[james13v]

Originally Posted by agent006140

all clothing or certain designer clothing.
what I mean in my last post is that like AMZN who now sell AAPL products so it banished AAPL refurbished sellers,Ebay could ban all used designer clothes if that designer or dept stores which sell his clothings come to sell on Ebay.
Say ifRalph Lauren who has its own website,if it decides to open a store on EBAY,it does not want to see individual selling his clothings on Ebay.
Say can be said of NIKE,ADIDAS,Louis Vitreon,Coach

Thankfully ebay hasn't done that yet. That's an Amazon thing. I used to sell watches on there, then one day " oh, Seiko is now selling on here, so you can't". Then " oh, etc is selling on here, now you can't". Until all the watches I sold, were sold by manufacturer. lol

[Beekay]

Originally Posted by walkingupwards

Just did a quick search on Alibaba, all listings for counterfeits are still up and running


The Chinese are just fooling around and buying time, there is no way they will stick to that deal


To be fair though, they will purchase more farm products from the US, but they won't jeopardize their factories to appease nobody and there is no way to force them to do it.


Anyway, I truly think this whole trade war had one goal after all, that is to force China to open its market to financial firms and to buy more US products.

Yea Aint nobody worried...The show will press on...Too much money to make..

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by james13v

Thankfully ebay hasn't done that yet. That's an Amazon thing. I used to sell watches on there, then one day " oh, Seiko is now selling on here, so you can't". Then " oh, etc is selling on here, now you can't". Until all the watches I sold, were sold by manufacturer. lol

Op said all listings were removed and it is clothing.
It must be a certain brand(s),cant all all clothing removed!
Let me guess,is it ADIDAS?NIKE?

[HurricaneHuntr]

ebay is cracking down on return rates for not as authentic, i heard that through a little birdie... high return rate as counterfeits are immediately getting accounts suspended after review. So that's different than years past.

[james13v]

Originally Posted by Moscutter

ebay is cracking down on return rates for not as authentic, i heard that through a little birdie... high return rate as counterfeits are immediately getting accounts suspended after review. So that's different than years past.

what's considered high rate?