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Sosaa247 02-15-2023 06:45 PM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Ban wave is over .
Accounts can now be created like before and without the high suspension rate .
So all who said there wasn’t a ban wave there clearly was.

JamesNorth101 02-16-2023 05:32 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosaa247 (Post 1210952)
Ban wave is over .
Accounts can now be created like before and without the high suspension rate .
So all who said there wasn’t a ban wave there clearly was.

Fully agreed

Ends early Feb usually most years

ahmaed 02-16-2023 06:46 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1210964)
Fully agreed

Ends early Feb usually most years

Today finally I can create accounts without suspentions

degsey69 02-16-2023 08:02 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
I just got an account up 2 days ago with the same info which was used in January when not only a new seller account was suspended but the buyer account as well, and those account details were of a real person never been on eBay before with voter registration to the address, we sent credit card statements and power bills to the appeal. In Jan the suspension was immediate and then the refusal of the appeal came straight back. So you were right.

Karlis96 02-17-2023 02:40 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosaa247 (Post 1210952)
Ban wave is over .
Accounts can now be created like before and without the high suspension rate .
So all who said there wasn’t a ban wave there clearly was.

Murdered_by_ebay told there is no any ban wave :)

After this need to carefully take in serious his answers on all questions!!!

murdered_by_ebay 02-17-2023 02:51 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
the ban wave does not exist , new accounts are suspended all the time. only difference is that the scale of suspensions gets increased at certain times , around christmas it is more , outside it is less

they do exactly the same thing with item removals and account restrictions

if there had been a true ban wave all suspensions for new accounts would need to stop now but they will not stop , just % will go down

Karlis96 02-17-2023 03:31 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1211023)
the ban wave does not exist , new accounts are suspended all the time. only difference is that the scale of suspensions gets increased at certain times , around christmas it is more , outside it is less

they do exactly the same thing with item removals and account restrictions

if there had been a true ban wave all suspensions for new accounts would need to stop now but they will not stop , just % will go down


Whrite your ebay book 😁😁

All experianced members agree with ban wave, but you not ;)

Icecolder2 02-17-2023 06:03 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
I am eb user 15 yrs, creating acc's all the time because to avoid fees, so having tons of experience about how to "run-in" fresh acc. And i also never understood that "ban wave" urban legend. At my statistics 3-4 of 10 acc goes down and 6-7 runs normally and that nearly never changes, and if used to change then it used to be my technical fault somewhere.
What has changed during last years it is use of browser fingerprints and thous who does not deals with this new thing suffers from the "wave".

murdered_by_ebay 02-17-2023 08:09 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
suspensions of new accounts started 2019 and since 2020 a significant portion of new accounts gets suspended , it might be close to 100% around christmas but will still easily be 50%+ in normal times

Icecolder2 02-17-2023 08:17 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1211031)
suspensions of new accounts started 2019 and since 2020 a significant portion of new accounts gets suspended , it might be close to 100% around christmas but will still easily be 50%+ in normal times

I was hitting with 100% fail rate for a two weeks in 2019 until found out its all about fingerprints and after started manipulate them for every user the statistics got back to normal. Dont know how others are doing, but times of few pc users trick is over and gives 100% dead-on-arrival result.
Registering about 20 new acc each month, 12-14 of them survives and doesnt matter the month - same was dec, same was jan - nothing changes. So personally i fail to see that "ban wave".

murdered_by_ebay 02-17-2023 09:48 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
open many accounts so that a portion gets established and could be used long-term , this is the recipe that remains valid

Karlis96 02-17-2023 10:05 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Than explain how it is possible - nov - feb can not open new account and list anything. But from feb - nov i can make fresh account and list lets say first item 5000$ value !

rsot 02-17-2023 10:28 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1211040)
Than explain how it is possible - nov - feb can not open new account and list anything. But from feb - nov i can make fresh account and list lets say first item 5000$ value !

you changed nothing in the way you setup your account?

Karlis96 02-17-2023 11:35 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1211049)
you changed nothing in the way you setup your account?

No, nothing !

frogjovi 02-17-2023 01:45 PM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icecolder2 (Post 1211032)
I was hitting with 100% fail rate for a two weeks in 2019 until found out its all about fingerprints and after started manipulate them for every user the statistics got back to normal. Dont know how others are doing, but times of few pc users trick is over and gives 100% dead-on-arrival result.
Registering about 20 new acc each month, 12-14 of them survives and doesnt matter the month - same was dec, same was jan - nothing changes. So personally i fail to see that "ban wave".

How to manipulate the fingerprints? which browser are you using?

rsot 02-17-2023 07:59 PM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1211056)
No, nothing !

interesting - possible system change/downgrade security

murdered_by_ebay 02-18-2023 01:10 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1211040)
Than explain how it is possible - nov - feb can not open new account and list anything. But from feb - nov i can make fresh account and list lets say first item 5000$ value !

this is the same problem that leads to mass item removals in the time around christmas , they just have a spike in activity which they manage through computers

when the spike goes down the system remains in place but the scale goes down

Karlis96 02-18-2023 01:54 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1211091)
this is the same problem that leads to mass item removals in the time around christmas , they just have a spike in activity which they manage through computers

when the spike goes down the system remains in place but the scale goes down

You need to watch less fantasy movies !!

Seems like you know more than ebay

murdered_by_ebay 02-18-2023 05:01 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
it is not a fantasy , towards the end of the year they always become stricter , for example removing more items for copyright problems

Karlis96 02-18-2023 04:03 PM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1211103)
it is not a fantasy , towards the end of the year they always become stricter , for example removing more items for copyright problems

Im not talking about items, but about accounts.

Explain why i can list now what i want but from nov - feb i even can not normaly create account ??

Its not ban wave ???????

yobar 02-19-2023 08:54 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Increased activity on eBay platform due to new year etc.
Also I noticed that they increase suspend ratio when they have some major update or system change

Nimble 02-20-2023 10:36 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Does anybody else get the "reactivate your ebay account" message? I've called in and they asked the usual questions of what I'm selling how I will ship etc but then they suspend the account.

I don't think there's an error in creation as that would suspend the account automatically, I'm wondering whether browser fingerprinting is an issue as these accounts I create on mac laptop go down but the one on Windows laptop is so far ok.

I'm perplexed, any one have any ideas?

wallstreetjimmy 02-20-2023 11:49 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimble (Post 1211247)
Does anybody else get the "reactivate your ebay account" message? I've called in and they asked the usual questions of what I'm selling how I will ship etc but then they suspend the account.

I don't think there's an error in creation as that would suspend the account automatically, I'm wondering whether browser fingerprinting is an issue as these accounts I create on mac laptop go down but the one on Windows laptop is so far ok.

I'm perplexed, any one have any ideas?

Its a security question future i called and they uped my limit?

Sosaa247 02-20-2023 06:09 PM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimble (Post 1211247)
Does anybody else get the "reactivate your ebay account" message? I've called in and they asked the usual questions of what I'm selling how I will ship etc but then they suspend the account.

I don't think there's an error in creation as that would suspend the account automatically, I'm wondering whether browser fingerprinting is an issue as these accounts I create on mac laptop go down but the one on Windows laptop is so far ok.

I'm perplexed, any one have any ideas?


I’ve been getting that on some accounts aswell . Imo once you get that message it’s best to ditch the account as it will not survive long after as I have seen .
But what you bring about the mac is interesting because I also use a Mac to create my accounts.

murdered_by_ebay 02-20-2023 07:13 PM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1211141)
Im not talking about items, but about accounts.

Explain why i can list now what i want but from nov - feb i even can not normaly create account ??

Its not ban wave ???????

the noose is usually tightened across the board in the time around christmas but it does not disappear after christmas just waiting until it is tightened again

smallmonkey 02-21-2023 12:23 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
I mentioned this before, its a hardware fingerprint now. U can change browser fingerprints using the same hw and most time when u make too many accounts too quickly from the same hw they all get nuked.

If you got a few phones laptops and using them in random order the success rate is much higher... but they can still finish you off on repetition patterns. 5 accounts created in 2 hours from a similar geo location based on your isp/4g using different hw is possible. 20 created in 1 hour won't roll well with ebay. Yes somebody tried telling me millions of people living in the same city so it doesn't work like that. Well in a perfect world it doesn't but in ebay hell it does.. now. Some genius at eBay or perhaps even a ai self learning rule decided that X amount of accounts made with Y amount of similarities in Z frame of time are all unfriendly bots and burned.

murdered_by_ebay 02-21-2023 02:19 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smallmonkey (Post 1211285)
I mentioned this before, its a hardware fingerprint now. U can change browser fingerprints using the same hw and most time when u make too many accounts too quickly from the same hw they all get nuked.

If you got a few phones laptops and using them in random order the success rate is much higher... but they can still finish you off on repetition patterns. 5 accounts created in 2 hours from a similar geo location based on your isp/4g using different hw is possible. 20 created in 1 hour won't roll well with ebay. Yes somebody tried telling me millions of people living in the same city so it doesn't work like that. Well in a perfect world it doesn't but in ebay hell it does.. now. Some genius at eBay or perhaps even a ai self learning rule decided that X amount of accounts made with Y amount of similarities in Z frame of time are all unfriendly bots and burned.

it is a known fact that ebay suspend if too many accounts were made within a short period of time. it might seem to you that there are millions of people living in the same city but in fact a very limited number of new accounts are opened on ebay so that opening many accounts within a short span attracts attention

ilan316 02-21-2023 03:44 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
yesterday i registered to ebay , was banned less then an 1ht later.
as a BUYER ACCOUNT

Nimble 02-22-2023 05:59 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ilan316 (Post 1211288)
yesterday i registered to ebay , was banned less then an 1ht later.
as a BUYER ACCOUNT

That's very strange and possibly something is tripping the bots, ebay don't usually check buyer accounts, only once you list something then the verification process starts amd that's across private sellers as well as business accounts.

smallmonkey 02-22-2023 05:43 PM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
It means there was too many accounts created too quick with similarities to your account. You are collateral damage

murdered_by_ebay 02-23-2023 06:48 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
time of creation is indeed an issue , there are times when there are waves of new accounts so they just suspend everyone , they really don't care much , you just open up again

Hank 02-23-2023 06:54 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1211432)
time of creation is indeed an issue , there are times when there are waves of new accounts so they just suspend everyone , they really don't care much , you just open up again

Utter rubbish. If everyone who tried to create an account was permanently suspended there'd be mountains of articles about it.

To say they 'really don't care much' is ridiculous, what planet are you living on, they're trying to attract sellers to run a profitable business.

Sometime I think you live in a dreamland with the amount of unproven gibberish you post.

murdered_by_ebay 02-23-2023 10:37 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
it is a proven fact that ebay do mass suspensions of new accounts , the times when they tried to attract sellers have been over for a long time , the vast majority of new accounts get suspension or restriction. in time when very many accounts are opened they just suspend in waves , literally everyone

Hank 02-23-2023 11:23 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1211447)
it is a proven fact that ebay do mass suspensions of new accounts , the times when they tried to attract sellers have been over for a long time , the vast majority of new accounts get suspension or restriction. in time when very many accounts are opened they just suspend in waves , literally everyone

Proven fact...then show us the proof.

You can't, you simply prattle on with your conspiracy theories with some misplaced idea you know what ebay are doing. You don't.

Not that you would allow yourself to believe me, but I'm going to be creating a new account pretty soon with unused legitimate details. I know it won't be suspended and why should it be?

Makes a mockery of the account sellers here if everyone gets suspended. Are you calling them liars when they say they have fresh accounts for sale?

smallmonkey 02-23-2023 06:49 PM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1211447)
it is a proven fact that ebay do mass suspensions of new accounts , the times when they tried to attract sellers have been over for a long time , the vast majority of new accounts get suspension or restriction. in time when very many accounts are opened they just suspend in waves , literally everyone

I can say I have experienced this myself with my research and techniques/styles of creating new accounts. When you look at it most people have a ebay account or don't have it and not interested. Its not like everyday there is thousands of new people appearing from thin air and making new accounts

murdered_by_ebay 02-23-2023 08:34 PM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1211452)
Proven fact...then show us the proof.

You can't, you simply prattle on with your conspiracy theories with some misplaced idea you know what ebay are doing. You don't.

Not that you would allow yourself to believe me, but I'm going to be creating a new account pretty soon with unused legitimate details. I know it won't be suspended and why should it be?

Makes a mockery of the account sellers here if everyone gets suspended. Are you calling them liars when they say they have fresh accounts for sale?

you can read the proof here every day where countless people get suspensions and restrictions. they will hit you as well with a probability of over 50% , no one cares if your details are unused because they do not get verified on new accounts

Hank 02-24-2023 03:44 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1211484)
you can read the proof here every day where countless people get suspensions and restrictions. they will hit you as well with a probability of over 50% , no one cares if your details are unused because they do not get verified on new accounts

If you think this forum, frequented by stealthers with, in the main, poor account creating processes at best and downright awful attempts with made up details in another country at worse, coupled with your baseless fantasy posts is proof then you'll forgive me if I take this claim with a pinch of salt.

Ebay care is my details are unused even if you don't, because they'll allow me to create a new account with them and will not suspend it.

You have no proof of you many claims, they are simply made up tales simply for the sake of it. You are no eBay/Amazon/Etsy/Banking expert as you profess to be, why you do it I do not know. You even claimed on another thread that eBay have blacklisted Sort Codes. Yes, you even claim to know for sure that you are aware of individual banned bank branches and that it would even be reason for suspension if you used one. You couldn't make it up. "That branch is banned sir, but if you travel 20 miles down the road, and open up an account with another of their branches then we will re-instate your account" And do you know what, even if it was true you have absolutely no evidence, it's simply a lucky guess!

All your unfounded gibberish does is deflect from the likely reason for account suspension. In what world should a poster believe that their sort code is an issue and end up chasing it when the real issue is elsewhere?

How about this. Instead of pratting on about how much insider knowledge you claim to have and telling folk that their wasting their time because everything is blacklisted, tell them what is required to open a new account - like those folk who will be oping new accounts today. They might not like to hear the truth but please, lets keep it to the truth.

You come across as someone who cannot make an account for yourself and have become bitter and twisted over it. If you can create new accounts then I rest my case. Which is it? :)

murdered_by_ebay 02-24-2023 05:12 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
you obviously don't know what you are writing about

your text about sort codes says it all , there is in fact a whole bunch of sort codes that are banned on ebay , some were never allowed , others were allowed but are banned now although people who already use them can continue doing so. they even ban major banks , for example HSBC and Nationwide , at least several of their sort codes are banned

you should stop misleading people with your crap , they may think you actually open new accounts and know how to do it. you don't even know the simplest ebay rules like the permission to open and run an unlimited number of accounts registered to the same person

BigLad 02-24-2023 05:20 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1211495)
you obviously don't know what you are writing about

your text about sort codes says it all , there is in fact a whole bunch of sort codes that are banned on ebay , some were never allowed , others were allowed but are banned now although people who already use them can continue doing so. they even ban major banks , for example HSBC and Nationwide , at least several of their sort codes are banned

you should stop misleading people with your crap , they may think you actually open new accounts and know how to do it. you don't even know the simplest ebay rules like the permission to open and run an unlimited number of accounts registered to the same person

You can run an unlimited amount of accounts on Ebay with the same details? interesting.

murdered_by_ebay 02-24-2023 05:23 AM

Re: Jan ban wave ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigLad (Post 1211498)
You can run an unlimited amount of accounts on Ebay with the same details? interesting.

it does not mean it is safe though so I would not do it with many accounts and be prepared to upload ID on all of them because ebay tend to ask to upload ID if they see someone run many accounts


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