ebay is dead

[riversnew]

You guys are not the only ones playing stealth games: the stealthy fee increases are astronomical. In fact, the only ones who will still be able to make a living off ebay are VERO sellers because of high markup cost.

Besides, why can't all your suppliers start selling directly to American consumers and eliminate ebay? It'll happen and ebay is going to be ****ed. Without small time sellers selling their unique items, who needs ebay.

[Sandy D]

I just looked at someones sales for the last 30 days and it was --- yes ---

411,000.00 in sales for the last 30 days.

Not too bad considering they are not even in the top group of ebay sellers.

December sales for this seller was over 1 million for a month.

I would hated to see what their sales were before ebay went dead.

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by Sandy D

I just looked at someones sales for the last 30 days and it was --- yes ---

411,000.00 in sales for the last 30 days.

Not too bad considering they are not even in the top group of ebay sellers.

Yeah but of course that's just gross sales. There's still no way to tell their net profit. For all we know they could be just barely making minimum wage or less.

[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by Ghost

Yeah but of course that's just gross sales. There's still no way to tell their net profit. For all we know they could be just barely making minimum wage or less.

Not with 200 employees they are not making minimum wage.

Even if they made a buck on a single item after expenses they have done very well.

Besides if you sell 411k in a month and only make min. wage you might as well give up.

If I can sell 10k in a month selling crap and make 4k profit on one account then I would be willing to bet they are raking in 100 or more profit when done a month.

They also do a tremendous wholesale business.

This is the type of seller people should be envy of. To sell 411k in one month is simply amazing.

I will look up the amount of items they sold and post it.

[Sandy D]

8,957 items sold in last 60 days.

$1,472,902 in sales.

Hardly think anyone is only making min. wage here.

[Ghost]

Which seller is this?

[NZT]

It will be interesting to see how the new DSR requirements affect sellers.

My guess is that a lot of sellers will be affected and this will have an impact on ebays revenue and share price.

Dont forget that the majority of sellers will not even go to half of the lengths that users on this forum go to to keep on selling.

I know lots of people that either had a bad experience selling or got suspended. After that they never bother again with ebay.

I know others that tried ebay and now only go to car boot sales to sell.

I would rather be shot in the leg than have to rely on selling at car boot sales. Getting up early, loading the car, driving to site, unpacking stuff, selling or not selling stuff, packing stuff up again, bringing stuff home etc etc.

[gibsonton]

Originally Posted by riversnew

You guys are not the only ones playing stealth games: the stealthy fee increases are astronomical. In fact, the only ones who will still be able to make a living off ebay are VERO sellers because of high markup cost.

Besides, why can't all your suppliers start selling directly to American consumers and eliminate ebay? It'll happen and ebay is going to be ****ed. Without small time sellers selling their unique items, who needs ebay.

If you ever had a actual Retail store you would know ebay fees are not bad at all ..Ebay and paypal according to my accountant and quick books took 18% of my gross sales .If i had a store than i would need to pay rent , utilities, insurance and need a employee unless i was going to live there . -also while only depending on the local economy- also EBAY is OPEN 24/7 selling around the world for me .. Ebay is not trying to get rid of SMALL TIME SELLERS they are trying to get rid of the SMALL TIME SELLERS selling FA$% Stuff ...I am a small time seller selling Vintage items as most on here know and i have not had a problem and could only sell the items i sell on ebay ....Even Amazon allows small sellers to sell Used Items - so there is no way ebay is going to cut that out and there is always someone to sell stuff around the house that they dont care what they get or the fees .......As far as overseas sellers they flooded the ebay market up untill about 3 years ago - i couldnt even sell Vero on ebay for much more than a couple dollars over what i paid for items as they were selling for the same price as they sold to me for and the market was flooded without the vero Police so i did better at a local Market selling .....Dont Worry about Ebay - worry about paypal and the possible changes with them reporting to the Irs and get as many paypal accts setup as you can.

[gibsonton]

When ebay went to DSRS everybody said it was finished ...when ebay went to sellers not being able to leave negative feedback everybody said ebay was finished ... when ebay went to the new 1 % rule -ebay was finished etc ....bottom line is i have to take whatever ebay throws at me but i have had the same ebay and paypal account since 1999 and havent gotten a vero in 2 years.. i have gotten veros i deserved and gotten veros for things that were legit ...but sorry you can make money buying and selling on ebay- i have given countless examples - I dont agree with most of the changes and i may get run off or suspended or whatever but is was a fun ride and ebay doesnt owe me anything ...all the time people spend B-Ching about ebay -if they spent that time trying to sell or find something good to sell they would see that maybe ebay isnt the problem . Good Luck

[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by Ghost

Which seller is this?

Now that would be stupid to give that name out.

It is a seller who I follow very closely because they sell a similar item that I do.
I know there selling pattern and use them as a way to gain sales because they always give away a little secret of some sort.

After researching them on a daily basis they are masters at putting items in places that does not make any sense but they are highly successful at it. So I follow behind them and put the items in the right spot and do very well.

If I did not sell the same type product I would gladly let you know but since I do it would be cutting my own throat. Then everyone under the sun would be selling the same product.

I am not meaning to be harsh but I would never expect anyone to hand me over information that would cut their sales down by adding more competition.

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by Sandy D

If I did not sell the same type product I would gladly let you know but since I do it would be cutting my own throat. Then everyone under the sun would be selling the same product.

I am not meaning to be harsh but I would never expect anyone to hand me over information that would cut their sales down by adding more competition.

That's fine I totally understand. I remember when I did the same thing with certain sellers myself, back when I was selling. I've long since reached the point where I just don't care anymore and have given up completely on eBay. (would only use it for buying now)

BTW Have you ever received one of eBay or Paypal's famous "proof of supplier" letters before?

[x2ruff4u]

Okay what will be alternative sites then??

[jamblix]

Originally Posted by Neo

Well I have no problem with casual sellers not bothering with ebay any more after a suspension. That eliminates some of the competition which can only be good.

Also although we all hate it when we are suspended / limited, I am glad that ebay take such strong action, and they do it quickly. Why am I glad? Well because they remove thousands of scammers, dead beats, and bad sellers from the site in a bid to maintain a reputation to entice buyers and thats what its all about.

If they did not do this then the site would be an absolute nightmare to sell on as all the above problem people would run it into the ground.

I couldnt imagine it any other way now.

Agree with this, if ebay had not taken these measures they would end up like some of the alternative sites like iOffer.com which would decrease the profit margins on legit items to the ground.

I just started to sell on eBay, but already experienced some of the hardship, for example the 21-day hold and the MC019 listing removal. That and both my legit accounts with my SS# got suspended 4 years ago.

eBay is certainly not dead though, I've made about 2k in sales and I've literally JUST started a new business on eBay and craigslist. All I really need to do is stay under the radar, build up more accounts, keep up my work ethic and if all goes according to plan I'll be making 20k in sales per month in less than a year from now.

[dburnside]

Originally Posted by aking

Well I have heard that some high end Vero company's have people hired to basically monitor ebay and target anyone selling their items without proper authorization. Don't know how true this is but I can definately believe it to be true.

i have had issues with a company who are ruthless at removing auctions because the seller doesnt like anyone selling their item,

[facanava76]

Originally Posted by hondAman

ebay is the auction king, it isn't goin anywhere. I made 30 grand last month on there.

hi, i read you post about the fact that you have lots of ebay' accounts up and running. I wonder if you could give me some tip in order to open new accounts once my only account was suspended?
thanks in advance!

[Imakemoney]

^ to the above. Do reading around the forum and research like everyone else has had to do.

Or alternatively buy the stealth guide for a concise layout how to get back to selling on ebay with multiple accounts.

You've been a member of the forum long enough ....

[rsot]

The mainman has spoketh

[Imakemoney]

troll

[rsot]

Edited just cause you have all the $ boss =)

Hell, I see some my cash is missing too and in that pile - geebus!