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Jonas 04-18-2008 05:19 PM

PayPal forced will make Australia the highest fraud. I've read eBay actually forced it because of a news report in Australia on how paypal was unsafe and so everyone was stopping using it.

Also doesn't paypal's "seller protection" not count at all for Australia?

GreenBean 04-18-2008 08:09 PM

There are some items that have paypal protection especially where the seller is from USA.
I guess in OZ, there are at the moment payment alternatives so that precious protection from paypal is not used so much.

Jonas 04-18-2008 09:14 PM

Yeah that's why sellers in China like shipping to USA through paypal because of paypal's "seller protection".

GreenBean 04-18-2008 09:17 PM

For the life of me, I can not understand ebay changing payment methods. Actually if I do
really think about it, I do as ebay calls it progress. Huh.
I am of the school if it ain't broke don't fix it. ROFL.

jscan 04-19-2008 03:39 AM

doughboykilla thanks for that link, i must have missed it on ACA

jscan 04-19-2008 03:40 AM

I have just registered on Oztion, im going to see how that goes :)
anyone else done the same?

mantisinc 04-19-2008 03:58 AM

Wow, Oztion looks like a good escape route for you guys.

I can see that growing in popularity fairly soon...

GreenBean 04-19-2008 04:14 AM

Been looking at the site. Sadly my items are not on it at all. But I wish anyone using it
to succeed.

jscan 04-19-2008 05:51 AM

yeah its already got quite a few members, still starting to grown though. some of my items are on there and the market isnt too saturated.

its got a good id verification method unlike ebay, it gives you the choice to choose how many ID verifications you wish to complete, the more you complete the more "ID verification" icons you get on your profile = more trust for buyers.

they are as follows:

- ID verifcation (send in a copy of your id signed by a person of statue )
- Verify by phone
- Verify by mail
- Verify by creditcard
- there was one more, i cant remember though.

anyways il see how it goes over the next month or so and let you guys know

craigoaus 04-22-2008 05:58 AM

Mandatory Use of Paypal
 
AS many may have read Ebay Australia is making Paypal mandatory and eventually the sole payment allowed on the site. They have also been reported as saying that if successful the changes would be implemented on other eBay sites. Here is an article from an Aus newspaper that may prove interesting....

Reserve Bank could scuttle eBay's plans
Asher Moses and Jacob Saulwick
April 22, 2008 - 2:00PM

eBay's plan to force all of its users on to PayPal faces opposition from the Reserve Bank, which is considering weighing in to the issue.

The Central Bank has long called for buyers and sellers to have as much choice as possible in what payment systems they use and strongly opposes any moves that reduce competition in the market.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission is investigating whether eBay Australia's new policy of forcing all items to be paid for using PayPal, which eBay owns, or cash on delivery/pick-up, breaches trade practice and competition laws.

PayPal performs payment processing for online sellers, allowing them to accept credit card payments and money transfers without having their own merchant credit card accounts.

But the policy, to come into effect on June 17, will mean direct bank deposits, cheques and money orders will all be barred.

The move by the auction site is presently limited to Australia only and will hit sellers with extra fees because PayPal charges them a fee of between 1.1 and 2.4 per cent to accept payments - usually using credit cards - via the service.

Several groups have expressed concern that forcing eBay users on to PayPal, rather than giving them the choice of which payment method to use, would prevent the emergence of competitors to PayPal in the online payments market.

The ACCC is inviting submissions from the public on the issue until May 2. It is understood the Reserve Bank, which has in the past stated it would like more competition for payments over the internet rather than less, is now deciding whether to make a submission.

Strong opposition from the Central Bank would almost certainly scuttle eBay's plans. The auction site's global chief executive, John Donahoe, has said the PayPal policy will be rolled out in other countries if it is successful here.

The Professional eBay Sellers Alliance, which includes eBay's top sellers who generate hundreds of millions of dollars in sales on the site each year, strongly opposes the changes and plans to lead a worldwide revolt.

Alastair MacGibbon, eBay's trust and safety director, said the announcement was designed to protect users as one is four times less likely to have a problem on eBay if one pays using PayPal than with other methods.

The Reserve Bank has ruled out stepping back unconditionally from regulating the payments system, and remains concerned about the level of market power held by credit card companies.

The Reserve has expressed support for new methods of payment that could act as competition for international card schemes. New methods could give merchants and customers more choice about how they make and receive payments.

A 2006 speech by an Assistant Governor of the Central Bank, Philip Lowe, documented the growth of alternative payment schemes overseas that had not yet been adopted in Australia.

For example, a number of countries had adopted "online debit" schemes that allow customers to transfer money directly from their bank account to the merchant without needing to use a credit card or scheme debit card.

Research by the Reserve has found that credit card payments are more costly than EFTPOS and cash, due to the fees imposed, the higher risk of fraud. and the length of time it takes for shopkeepers to process the payments.

Reserve Bank could scuttle eBay's plans - BizTech - Technology - smh.com.au

jscan 04-22-2008 07:07 AM

ebay will get away with it in the end, the ACCC is useless, and the reserve bank is just as bad.

ebaysucksthebigone 04-22-2008 09:57 AM

i hope not... :|


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