| 
03-27-2012
| Junior Member | | Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 478
Thanks: 9
Thanked 28 Times in 24 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 86% | | Rival seller trying to ruin account
Had 2 bids recently from new ebayers with address v similar to rival seller, lOw and behold 2 cases open demanding full refund as item not as described
Whats the best way to combat this?
|
The complete step-by-step guide to get back to selling today!
| | 
03-27-2012
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 875
Thanks: 162
Thanked 199 Times in 145 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 81% | |
Cancel his bids maybe? Durrr
__________________ “You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.”
-Albert Einstein | 
03-27-2012
| Junior Member
Threadstarter  
| | Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 478
Thanks: 9
Thanked 28 Times in 24 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 86% | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jamblix Cancel his bids maybe? Durrr | Eh durrr, can you not read
New account, paid for item, case open, cannot stop them opening new ebay
| 
03-27-2012
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 875
Thanks: 162
Thanked 199 Times in 145 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 81% | |
So, what? Canceling his bids would still solve the problem. 0 feedback = non paying or worse in my eyes. I cancel every 0 feedback bidder on all my auctions for the reason "I do not allow buyers with 0 feedback to bid on (multiple of) my items" when canceling.
Saves time, $ and non-pay cases and you avoid things like you said above, I also check every top bidders feedback. Of course some might believe 0 feedback buyers are good, I find a majority of them don't pay, don't leave feedback, or purposely buying to sabotage so I stopped selling to them.
I monitor every auction to the end and time my auction schedules accordingly to suit multiple accounts. The competitors and scams usually set-up automatic bids to really high levels and you can watch out for these things easily and most of the time they won't be padding their feedback scores just to screw with their competition screw with you.
Ok so maybe the durrr was out of hand, but there's nothing you can do after it's done. Best way to combat this? Avoid it before it happens.
__________________ “You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.”
-Albert Einstein | The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to jamblix For This Useful Post: | | 
03-27-2012
|  | Executive [VIP] | | Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 73,160
Thanks: 5,777
Thanked 8,683 Times in 7,978 Posts
Activity: 100% Longevity: 82% | |
Submit all the proof needed - call up eb - explain the situation. No simple solution - you will have to keep pushing with this one.
| 
03-27-2012
|  | Executive [VIP] | | Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 721
Thanks: 40
Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 80% | |
I had this problem myself. Very sly and underhand.
I had a lot of proof. They were paying using the PayPal account registered to their business account, having it sent to the same address registered on their business account etc.
eBay said there's nothing wrong with a person who buys the same goods that you both sell from you! Apparently they could have bought them for a number of reasons, in my case the same price. Then they left negative feedback and low DSR.
eBay was ZERO help.
| 
03-27-2012
|  | Executive [VIP] | | Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 9,590
Thanks: 503
Thanked 1,484 Times in 1,192 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 91% | |
yeah but OP is saying they have paid, so regardless of if you cancel it, they will leave neg feedback, plus probably deny the cancellation request so you pay fees.
I agree it is tough, if you know who it is, do the same back. Let them know you will keep doing it until they stop....
| 
03-27-2012
| Senior Member | | Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 3,378
Thanks: 600
Thanked 419 Times in 301 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 77% | |
oomps is spot on
dont rely on ebay to have your back
| 
03-27-2012
|  | Executive [VIP] | | Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 42,343
Thanks: 5,612
Thanked 9,138 Times in 7,105 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 96% | |
And meet some fruitloop who will let you damage your own account?
You did it to me so I will do it to you. & on & on & on
That's mature. Not.
What makes you think some idiot would not go on making accounts just to really kill yours?
Alter your listing requirements like jamblix said.
Sit on the listings & check....
Skin the buyer another way
__________________ REAP WHAT YOU SOW. LIFE IS SO NOT FAIR. | 
03-27-2012
| Senior Member | | Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 3,378
Thanks: 600
Thanked 419 Times in 301 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 77% | |
IMO he is a fruitloop anyways
but yeah alter settings to try stop this in future,but whos to say he cant get around them,if he wants to do it bad enough he will easily
maybe if he gets a taste of his own he mite think twice
| 
03-27-2012
| Junior Member
Threadstarter  
| | Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 478
Thanks: 9
Thanked 28 Times in 24 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 86% | |
If they pay by paypal u cannot cancel bids
I have a 1500 100% feedback and I no doubt they will leave negative feedback, google is great I checked the postal address and other seller is registered at address, they bought 2 items I only posted one as I suspected them
I can play their game and do the same back and constantly be under attack, or I can find a sneaky way to get them back
| 
03-27-2012
|  | Executive [VIP] | | Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 73,160
Thanks: 5,777
Thanked 8,683 Times in 7,978 Posts
Activity: 100% Longevity: 82% | |
Hope it works out for you.
| 
03-27-2012
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 269
Thanks: 35
Thanked 34 Times in 29 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 75% | |
Been there. There is really no stopping it. Seriously feedback can be purchased with one cent. Sometimes you do not even have to buy the feedback.
Recently, i had a situation, where a buyer tried the above on me. I kept blocking his new open today zero feedback accounts. Canceled all my listings, waited a few weeks, problem solved he lost interest.
In another case, i was determined to get pay back. But i will not go into details. It was very ugly for him. He lost money, goods, and account. Sometimes people need to be punished in such a way. He pushed the button by threating me, calling over and over late at night. Very long story.
| 
03-27-2012
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 269
Thanks: 35
Thanked 34 Times in 29 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 75% | |
Wish i could change my name to TopRatedAgain lol.
| 
03-27-2012
|  | MU | | Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,983
Thanks: 155
Thanked 160 Times in 136 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 80% | |
1. Cancel bids.
2. Refund money after return item sent if they already left negative feedback. If not refund money depends on situation first and be nice to buyer make some story up real sad one. Works sometimes.
3. Call ebay and explain.
4. Block buyers and hope for the best.
5. | 
03-27-2012
| Junior Member | | Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 103
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 70% | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dburnside Had 2 bids recently from new ebayers with address v similar to rival seller, lOw and behold 2 cases open demanding full refund as item not as described
Whats the best way to combat this? | Yes there is a way. but it may cost you a few sales and take a few weeks.
First, you have to take off BIN option and immediate payment required option. Then any time during the week you have a zero feedback bidder, cancel their bid and block their id. They will now wait for the end of your auctions. So now you can manually end the auctions and sell to real high bidder 12 hours before actual close. You can even put at top in Big BOLD RED LETTERS something like "due to my competition place faké bids at the last minute all auctions will end 12 hours early. So bid now if interested." Or you could just let them run the course a have a quick cancel bid finger if they are using sniping. After a few weeks I find they move on. Also is you know for a fact it is your competition, do they same to him and neg him a couple of times and let him know that if he continues his attacks so will you.
Last edited by elitepowersales; 03-27-2012 at 04:44 PM.
| The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to elitepowersales For This Useful Post: | | 
03-27-2012
|  | Executive [VIP] | | Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,217
Thanks: 895
Thanked 4,069 Times in 2,169 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 80% | |
I really HATE sellers who engage in this underhanded nonsense. They all think they are smart, but many people have tried it before them. Most of the time, they end up with cancelled accounts.
Still, I'd like to <Censored> | 
03-28-2012
| Senior Member | | Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 180
Thanks: 58
Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Activity: 1% Longevity: 76% | |
a quick google search will often reveal names of his relatives and/or neighbors. Call them and ask why he would engage in such behavior. Trust me on this one, he will end it immediately. Works even better if you can find out what his work number is, which isn't really all that hard.
| 
03-28-2012
| Senior Member | | Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 441
Thanks: 16
Thanked 38 Times in 32 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 81% | | Quote:
Originally Posted by potofgold23 a quick google search will often reveal names of his relatives and/or neighbors. Call them and ask why he would engage in such behavior. Trust me on this one, he will end it immediately. Works even better if you can find out what his work number is, which isn't really all that hard. | Its never a good idea to harass someones family and neighbors they have nothing to do with it
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
| 
03-28-2012
|  | Executive [VIP] | | Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 7,217
Thanks: 895
Thanked 4,069 Times in 2,169 Posts
Activity: 0% Longevity: 80% | | Quote:
Originally Posted by potofgold23 a quick google search will often reveal names of his relatives and/or neighbors. Call them and ask why he would engage in such behavior. Trust me on this one, he will end it immediately. Works even better if you can find out what his work number is, which isn't really all that hard. | One guy dogging me on Amazon - who managed to push every last one of my buttons - was stupid enough to give enough real information in his threat-mail that I was able to find his home phone number. I called and had a really interesting talk with his mother. She spoke English, but not very well. I was nice to her, but I used words like illegal, unethical, questionable, actionable and criminal. He called me back like 2 hours later on my Trac-Fone and basically begged me not to turn him in or call his mother again. I hope he pissed himself.
| 
03-28-2012
| Senior Member | | Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 180
Thanks: 58
Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Activity: 1% Longevity: 76% | | Quote:
Originally Posted by hackteck Its never a good idea to harass someones family and neighbors they have nothing to do with it
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk | I feed and clothe my family with the money I make from Ebay so if someone is trying to interfere with that, I go to great lengths to end that interference
| The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to potofgold23 For This Useful Post: | | 
03-28-2012
| Senior Member | | Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 180
Thanks: 58
Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Activity: 1% Longevity: 76% | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico One guy dogging me on Amazon - who managed to push every last one of my buttons - was stupid enough to give enough real information in his threat-mail that I was able to find his home phone number. I called and had a really interesting talk with his mother. She spoke English, but not very well. I was nice to her, but I used words like illegal, unethical, questionable, actionable and criminal. He called me back like 2 hours later on my Trac-Fone and basically begged me not to turn him in or call his mother again. I hope he pissed himself. | That's one for the good guys!
|
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |