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Default Ebay makes decisions just at random??

I'm really starting to believe most of beaus decisions of suspending some accounts, increasing limits on others is by large part a random calculation implemented in the computer program that is Ebay

I just can't figure it out otherwise. Today I log into an account that is under 3months old and I only had 16 transactions over about 10 weeks with a feedback of only 6, and my limits were raised to 50/$5000, now this is an account that I forgot about haven't paid much attention to it for whatever reason and the last thing I'd expect was a limit raise and boom there it is.

On other accounts I feel like I worked so hard and either received raises almost 4 months after or on one I'm still waiting and it's going on 5 months with perfect scores and limits pushed every month the Paypal hold is gone but the initial 10/$1000 still there.

Anyway I think trying so hard really isn't the reason for increases or lack of effort may not necessarily be the cause for limitations and suspensions . There is just a huge part of code written in ebay s program that is completely random and trying to figure that out will drive everyone nuts
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same happened to me today, on one 7 month old account, 2 transactions only totaling less than the starting limit, out of the blue on 6th June from 10/650 to 50/3300.. UK.
the thing is the previous day i have listed 1 item for 600 gbp. the day after even before it sells, limits raised.

pushing the limits will raise them most of the time but you are right there is something random in this... last month i got 4 accounts raised from 10/650 to 100/3500 again UK and they were about 6 month old but never pushed the limits there...
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As I always say, with ebay just toss a dart and see where it lands.

Also on major raises just be careful. Do not run in and list up to the limit right away. Move slow because on this account you mentioned you have anyway.

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i am looking at the moment at a seller registered their acc 45 days ago, says from Turkey, they have listed items for over 10k usd, 6 items, only high luxury brand name items, their listings will almost complete and are being listed for 7 days...

i will understand the limit, lets say they got into a no limit account but from my experience any account pushing it this hard and being this new will go down in 1 hour most of the time, yet they managed to stay like this for almost 7 days, has 0 feedback.

how is this possible?

(sorry if this is a bit off topic Dmshark25 )
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They could have been linked to a previous account the seller has that does have a proven track record.
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It is very easy to dismiss something as random when you don't understand it. Let me tell you when a company is as successful as Ebay, there is nothing random about the decisions that affect its bottom line. While the formula for limit raises might be more complex then a sequence of scientific calculations that take up a whole blackboard, I do believe there is a definite formula.

Next time you make an account keep a journal of every little detail. It is what I'm doing with all my new accounts. With the right amount of data, we may be able to figure it out.
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I think your 100% right I'm just not nearly smart enough to understand and figure out there formulas, but ill do the best I can to be able to play there game and keep the sales in, although I haven't been able to figure them out my accounts are aging and limits getting increased even though I can't figure out exactly what they are basing it on
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There is nothing random going on. However, automation is something that works MOST of the time. So, sometimes you can hit on certain metrics the algorithm is looking for and get a boost even though you might not be able to figure out why.

eBay and other large businesses depend on automation heavily. So, if they give raises to 1,000 account correctly, and 5 or 6 are raised by accident, they are happy.
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i am looking at the moment at a seller registered their acc 45 days ago, says from Turkey, they have listed items for over 10k usd, 6 items, only high luxury brand name items, their listings will almost complete and are being listed for 7 days...

i will understand the limit, lets say they got into a no limit account but from my experience any account pushing it this hard and being this new will go down in 1 hour most of the time, yet they managed to stay like this for almost 7 days, has 0 feedback.

how is this possible?

(sorry if this is a bit off topic Dmshark25 )
Chance of their being linked to another account which is in great standing.
If registered in turkey, what country has the listing? Might tell some more about them
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I think your 100% right I'm just not nearly smart enough to understand and figure out there formulas, but ill do the best I can to be able to play there game and keep the sales in, although I haven't been able to figure them out my accounts are aging and limits getting increased even though I can't figure out exactly what they are basing it on
Actually it's not a computerised logarithm at all. They want us to think this is so.

I will explain in a bit

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they have listed on the US site, actually from my knowledge the photos are of genuine items but it still makes me wonder... when i have tried this i go down in a no time no matter what..
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eBay and other large businesses depend on automation heavily. So, if they give raises to 1,000 account correctly, and 5 or 6 are raised by accident, they are happy.
this is the explanation.




Inside ebay HQ in the States, they have the above giant staircase. Several times a day, staff tun out to the top of the case. They throw thousands & thousands of pieces of paper with account numbers onto the stairs.
Each stair actually has a name. Some are named MC999, or Mc019. A BIG stair is labelled MC008 Indefinite Selling suspension. All the papers settle on the stairs. Then the little monkeys, oops staff, come out. They go to their allocated stair. They pick up the papers. They go back to their cubicles.
Then they wait for contact from the poor ebay seller.

And that's why there is chaos. All muddled up.
It's impossible and impractical to deal with issues this way.

Sure sounds like ebay to me.


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Haha!! I knew it great research GB
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I thought they played Plinko a la Price is Right ...guess I was wrong

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