VPS rules

danshan · #23 01-04-2015

Ebay and paypal are trying more than anything to stop international scammers, so any dongle ip means you are pretty darn sure in the usa.

yankee · #24 01-04-2015

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Originally Posted by danshan

Nothing is better than a dongle.

It really depends on the account. I live a Dedicated IP for big accounts but clearly these accounts are not scammers.

danshan · #25 01-04-2015

I have all my accts on vps it is the simplest and easiest but nothing beats a dongle as far as stealth it is absolutely the best option hands down no question. I have accts that are 2 years old and are on vps so imo vps does work but nothing is better than a dongle

schmeagle · #26 01-04-2015

Nope it's not a VPN so you aren't going to get access to anything you wouldn't normally get access to.

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I am very curious if these guys can access blocked.com. it took me about a year to get by blocked.com

danshan · #27 01-04-2015

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Originally Posted by schmeagle

Nope it's not a VPN so you aren't going to get access to anything you wouldn't normally get access to.

QUOTE=danshan;627521]I am very curious if these guys can access blocked.com. it took me about a year to get by blocked.com

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I dont understand?

schmeagle · #28 01-04-2015

Why is a dongle better? I've never used one so I don't know.. But doesn't it grab new IP address that may or may not have been previously used? And can it manage 10+ accounts without issues? Maybe it is an easy solution but is it going to handle multiple accounts with ease?

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Originally Posted by danshan

I have all my accts on vps it is the simplest and easiest but nothing beats a dongle as far as stealth it is absolutely the best option hands down no question. I have accts that are 2 years old and are on vps so imo vps does work but nothing is better than a dongle

danshan · #29 01-04-2015

I believe the idea of stealth to me is to as closely as possible look like a real normal guy. I think imho most real normal guys log into or check their ebay or pp at some point with mobile. So by using a dongle you technically are doing that and a dongle ip shows as the isp as verizon or sprint. How could a nigerian scammer simulate that? Now how easy could he get a vps. This is why i think it is stronger even though lol I do not use it. I could not imagine switching ips and tracking ips for 50-70 accts all day sounds crazy to me. I set up a vps put 25 accts on each desktop and each has its own vps and i have had tons of success.

yankee · #30 01-04-2015

more than 70% of all ebay transactions occur on a mobile device. This was in January of 2013 so odds are it is even higher.

danshan · #31 01-04-2015

And what percentage do you guess are on a vps? I would say .001 % something absurd like that.

schmeagle · #32 01-04-2015

Nope, not a VPN... (You could do that, but it's not necessary since all we need is to use a browser to get on eBay) it's creating you're own anonymous http proxy.. Just for web browsing, fast and secure. And totally undetectable by any scanner or website. if it's set up correctly.

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I was understanding that it was essentially creating your own VPN service.

GreenBean · #33 01-05-2015

Whether it's primary purpose is something else doesn't change the fact that it will act just like any other proxy. It's a proxy.

rsot · #34 01-05-2015

Dongle....cellphone tethering...dial-up - still ways to go to get dynamic IP that are less risky than proxy

schmeagle · #35 01-06-2015

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Originally Posted by rsot

Dongle....cellphone tethering...dial-up - still ways to go to get dynamic IP that are less risky than proxy

I feel safer with a Static IP rather than a dynamic IP. There is absolutely no risk involved in an undetectable private http proxy. Only risky proxies are the public ones.
Dialup or tethering was a pain for me, because I had to constantly keep track of Ip addresses that had been used previously and for which account I used them. A Static IP for each account is safe and super easy.

danshan · #36 01-06-2015

I dont feeler safer with static but 1 million times easier

schmeagle · #37 01-06-2015

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Originally Posted by GreenBean

Whether it's primary purpose is something else doesn't change the fact that it will act just like any other proxy. It's a proxy.

You say that like its a bad thing.. eB must think it's nice, because all ten accounts were given very high selling limits right from the get go.. I can hardly keep up with so many sales...

danshan · #38 01-06-2015

I think its a lack of complete understanding and a little of I know what works. A vps is nothing like a proxy in the sense of what people think a proxy is

schmeagle · #39 01-06-2015

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Originally Posted by danshan

I think its a lack of complete understanding and a little of I know what works. A vps is nothing like a proxy in the sense of what people think a proxy is

Yes, that is the misconception that I am trying to dispel here with this thread..

schmeagle · #40 01-06-2015

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Originally Posted by danshan

I dont feeler safer with static but 1 million times easier

Well I only feel safer because I was using a vPN and this seems risky because there are only a small pool of IPs to chose from with each server. I feel like if other sellers are on the same server they could be sharing the ip pool with me and we both risk getting flagged. Also near the end of the month they seem to run out of IPs and route you to a different server in another city. Then oops pp wants to verify your identity all of the sudden.

A VPS with a proxy is just like any internet connection. Your ISP is actually a large proxy server.. The Internet is comprised of proxies per se.

Avoid public proxies of course, these are used and abused.. I am trying to explain the difference.

The squid server is used by millions of servers and ISPs to route Internet connections. It is highly configurable and can be set up so that no proxy is detected.

danshan · #41 01-06-2015

I still ask can you get on blocked.com?

schmeagle · #42 01-06-2015

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Originally Posted by danshan

I still ask can you get on blocked.com?

Nope, couldn't access it. Do I need to?

danshan · #43 01-06-2015

If you cannot you have a setup issue or your isp is recognized both are not ideal scenarios. I have some old accounts that cannot get on blocked because i never finished with my new tweak setips and the accts have been alive forever. Dont you thi k if some little outfit like blocked can tell sure as hell eb and pp can

schmeagle · #44 01-06-2015

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Originally Posted by danshan

If you cannot you have a setup issue or your isp is recognized both are not ideal scenarios. I have some old accounts that cannot get on blocked because i never finished with my new tweak setips and the accts have been alive forever. Dont you thi k if some little outfit like blocked can tell sure as hell eb and pp can

Yes it's likely they have blacklisted the providers of many VPS services. Thanks for the tip, I'll look into this. Do you have a recommendation? I just saw your previous posts on this subject.. Try different VPS providers that are not as well known? I can't switch these accounts over now, they are selling like crazy, but would like to setup new ones in the future. I'd like to know since it seems you have been already doing this for a lot longer than I have.