Stealth with reckless abondon

[MM78]

Originally Posted by bananaappeal

He wants accounts that can handle 20k+ worth of sales without getting flagged or looked at.

He's willing to burn the account after a month and move on to the next one..

Oh but he's leaving some dosh in the paypal for returns..

seems legit ....

Totally legit! lol.

[JiuJitsuTom]

Originally Posted by MM78

This sentence alone raises a ton of flags....and frankly makes me wonder why you want to "Turn and Burn" accounts.


This sentence makes me think that your selling f@ke merchandise or trying to pull something shady.

You have red flags for a reason. My item is generic. My item does not Violate any VERO. But I must say my item does have a high defect rate. I must also say if anyone EVER complains they get refunded without question and in most caes I just let them keep the item.

I'd say you comments are warranted. It seems like you have great insight as I see your posts constantly an dthey make perfect sense. Forget "churn and burn" where are all these "accounts for sale" I hear about so often?

[GreenBean]

Your selling plan may not suit the business plan of an account seller.

A seller may not want to sell seasoned accounts to have a short shelf life.

As an example: say you do buy off seller X on this forum. That's fine. But when you start to report an account got burned, some users may perceive the issue came from the account itself, and not your behavior with it. That's not on for sellers.

Your better plan may be for yourself to do the hard work.

That's the bottom line of being stealth.

Hard work needs to be done at the start.

It is not necessarily an item to be purchased.

[pokerpro]

My head FELL OFF somewhere along the line.........but, I'm curious, what is your criteria for a "truly aged account"?

[trosky]

You need 2 different things here and both are extremely hard to get. 1 is lots of high limit accounts and the other is PayPal accounts that can handle big payments through it without limits most likely for the purposes that you want.

Yankee will show up sooner or later and give his take on this, only one I've seen close to doing similar high volume/money on new accounts

I have a few ideas but it's very specific and more details needed

[muzzie]

What a blanket of words here. You cant burn any account like that. If something gets limited or suspended (eBay / PP / both), just forget about the account. You will not be able to link your own paypal to such stealth account. If you need something for burning - get 20 accounts, age them, and split your sales among them, it will make you protected from sudden suspensions, and will lower "peracc" activity so Radar will not detect too much of a suspicious activity.

[joew8989]

So if you burn a paypal account, you can attach a new one with a new ip/user account?

[joew8989]

If the defect rate is a problem why don't you sell something cheap, that's rarely defective
(Example: bubble mailers) to keep your defect rate low?

[RosieTosie]

Originally Posted by joew8989

So if you burn a paypal account, you can attach a new one with a new ip/user account?

No you can't, or you will 'burn' the new PayPal by linking it to the previous burned one, by adding it to the ebay that is tainted by that old burned PayPal. Never link new to old, that is the road to ruin for everything linked to it.

New stealth eBay and PayPal is the only way forward.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by pokerpro

My head FELL OFF somewhere along the line.........but, I'm curious, what is your criteria for a "truly aged account"?

Truly aged....still subject to much debate - possibly 6 months or 1 year of good activity building

[aking]

Even if an account is "truly aged", you can't gaurantee what kind of selling limits it will have. Limit increasea seem to me random as mine are all over the place. I got an increase in an account that sold like 5 items but other more seasoned account seem to be at a standstill.

If he wants to move that much stuff, eBay may not be the right platform.

You need your own website!

[JiuJitsuTom]

Really good insights here. Thank You.

Multiple aged accounts seems to be the answer. I need an account that is more than 90 days old and usually that has som esales in my particular category. Also my items sell than less than $20 each so no big transactions needed. High amount of quantity allowed and large amounts of sales & income into paypal. Figure I can age until X-MAS when I rarely have any paypal issues.

As far attaching. You CAN and I HAVE many time attached a NEW paypal to a seasoned ebay account but using BOTH on a new I.P.

As far as understanding stealth. Believe me I understand the slow and steady route and all the safeguards. I do have this as a main strategy; but I do also want some accounts like this. These accounts are incredibly lucrative and need not exist for much more than a few months at most. If they get a hard Limit I wait my 180 days and take whats left. I have no issue with this.

I am talking about grossing 7 figures and not running multiple eBay accounts just to "get by" or for a "side job." Also as far as buying from another I would not do it unless I can add an EIN. Even so if it is a big IRS risk I am not interested in such accounts.

Some company must sell these accounts. Accounts that are 90+ days old with paypals that will allow at least modest income so that when a huge sales Holiday comes around they will not blink an eye at a huge month.

I hope this makes more sense. As far as the derogatory comments or mocking me; I get it, I am a newb after all I'll take it like a man. I am grateful for the helpful comments.

[MM78]

Originally Posted by JiuJitsuTom

I hope this makes more sense. As far as the derogatory comments or mocking me; I get it, I am a newb after all I'll take it like a man. I am grateful for the helpful comments.

Don't take it the wrong way but when someone comes to the forum wanting accounts where they can "turn & burn" we as a forum instinctively become weary about the sellers intentions. 99% of the people who buy accounts here want to get back to selling on a regular basis.