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Originally Posted by Awaken (Post 827578)

Doesn't eBay make you accept an agreement to get charged with your paypal account for fees before you can even list items? Happened every time for each of my accounts.

Originally Posted by sunnyjaan (Post 832685)

Hello everyone

I have 15 years old paypal account that I still use it to buy things from ebay. Is it possible to use it with new stealth account? and pay fees with VCC Gift card.

Originally Posted by kirkland (Post 840378)

Hi guys, I'm new here. Trying my best to understand things. My 2 questions (sorry if they've been answered:

1) I keep seeing that its a bad idea to pay eBay fees with PayPal but I don't see WHY. What if I leave a couple hundred bucks surplus in my account to cover the fees? I suppose theres always the possibility of the PayPal balance not being able to cover the required fees for whatever reasons (payment holds, pending payments, etc), but in the event that it was always kept up to par... there would be no problem, right?


2) Lets say we DO have zero balance in our PayPal, and ebay draws fees from the bank account tied to your PayPal. But let's say the associated bank account is a business account , NOT a personal account (e.g., biz checking for XYZ trading co.). When PayPal forces the withdrawal from your bank, would they still see your personal name on the account? Or just the business name "XYZ". Would they see the address?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by kirkland (Post 840378)

Hi guys, I'm new here. Trying my best to understand things. My 2 questions (sorry if they've been answered:

1) I keep seeing that its a bad idea to pay eBay fees with PayPal but I don't see WHY. What if I leave a couple hundred bucks surplus in my account to cover the fees? I suppose theres always the possibility of the PayPal balance not being able to cover the required fees for whatever reasons (payment holds, pending payments, etc), but in the event that it was always kept up to par... there would be no problem, right?


2) Lets say we DO have zero balance in our PayPal, and ebay draws fees from the bank account tied to your PayPal. But let's say the associated bank account is a business account , NOT a personal account (e.g., biz checking for XYZ trading co.). When PayPal forces the withdrawal from your bank, would they still see your personal name on the account? Or just the business name "XYZ". Would they see the address?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Awaken (Post 827578)

Doesn't eBay make you accept an agreement to get charged with your paypal account for fees before you can even list items? Happened every time for each of my accounts.

Originally Posted by cool25 (Post 863391)

Its a great post. But i have a question can we pay via paypal instead credit card?. The reason is i am little bit lazy to find my card and typing 16 digits

Originally Posted by cpoulos62 (Post 920034)

Sorry about this newbe question but I read conflicting suggestions and so feedback is appreciated.

1. I read do not leave funds in paypal for a stealth account. I only leave a few bucks to cover shipping but not much else.
2. When eBay fees are due, I let PP withdraw the ebay fees from my attached bank account. This bank account is used solely for this PP account. My bank, BOA allows mismatched names.

Is allowing PP to take $$ out of my attached bank account a bad idea? I would think no because why have a bank account used solely for PP deposits if the idea of stealth is to mimic a real user who would deposit and withdraw funds.

Thanks for anyone who has the opportunity to review and comment.

Originally Posted by kau (Post 951507)

hello,
i'm going to buy US ebay account soon
i already got stealth book, but i couldn't find anything about the government taxes.
For example, if i buy stealth account and i start dropshipping in US, but i don't really live in US, how about the taxes than? do I have to pay them anyway? and where can i find the info, which taxes do i have to pay?

Originally Posted by kau (Post 951507)

hello,
i'm going to buy US ebay account soon
i already got stealth book, but i couldn't find anything about the government taxes.
For example, if i buy stealth account and i start dropshipping in US, but i don't really live in US, how about the taxes than? do I have to pay them anyway? and where can i find the info, which taxes do i have to pay?

Originally Posted by Here We Go Again (Post 66393)

I have received quite a few PM’s lately and seen this in a few threads so here it is….
How to pay your eBay fees and do it safely.

This is assuming that you have set up you Stealth eBay account according to the Stealth Book and all is going well for you.

When you have an eBay account that is doing well you must pay your fees in order to keep that account doing well.
This is what I do on all of my accounts.
I have accounts selling items everyday and have been for OVER 1 YEAR.
I have a Deluxe Gift Card as my default credit card on file.
The funds have run out on this card about 10 months ago.
As long as you pay your fees BEFORE the date that eBay automatically tries to collect them from your card on file they will NEVER know that the card on file is a dead card.
I go to Walgreens every month and purchase a few $100 Yellow gift2go cards.
I then log into the gift2go web site and load the correct eBay user information onto the card I want to use.
Then I log into the separate user account I have set up on my computer for this account.
Then I use AOL Dial-Up to gain access to the Internet.
Then I use my regular web browser to log into my eBay account I want to pay the fees on.
I go to the “Seller Account” > “One Time Payment” > “Pay with your credit card” > “Use a different Card”
This is where you enter the card numbers and Card Identification Number for the yellow gift2go card you have loaded the information onto.
I enter the card # and the 3 digit code on the back and the amount I want to pay.
Amount has to be less than the card value or equal to it.
Poof… My eBay fees are paid and I have NO PROBLEMS.
I do NOT use my paypal account to pay my fees for other reasons that I will not get into.

This routine has worked for me for a long time and I stand by it.
If you have a different way that works for you then good. This is mine.


ADDED on March 18. 2009

But you ask.... WHY??????

In order to sell on eBay 90% of us MUST link a verified Paypal to our eBay account....
We all know this.
eBay does this so that they can check your identity.
They use your Identity Information from Paypal to check the identity.

IF you do pay your eBay fees with your Paypal accounts here is what can happen:

Version 1:
If you set your eBay account to automatically pay its fees with your Paypal account you will lose.
If your account goes NARU eBay will STILL attempt to collect their outstanding fees through Paypal.
But you were smart and kept your Paypal account empty.... Right?
Paypal will pay eBay and your account will go into the negative.
Now your Paypal account is in the negative.
Your Bank account that is attached to this Paypal account will get hit by Paypal for its outstanding balance.
But you were smart and kept that Bank Account empty of funds.... Right?
So when Paypal attempts to get their money there is none there.
You have now been hit with a over-draft fee by your bank. Somewhere between $10 and $40.
Paypal will keep doing this to you account in order to recover their funds.
Sometimes up to 5 times before they stop... If they do.
Each time you get hit with a over-draft fee.
Now your Bank Account is in the negative. BAD NEWS for you because your account is in your REAL NAME.
Now you have to pay the bank.
All of this could have been avoided by just paying your eBay fees with a Pre-Paid Credit Card.


Version 2:
If you just pay your fees with Paypal and do not have it set for automatic withdraw.
If your account goes NARU eBay can STILL attempt to collect their outstanding fees through Paypal.
Because that is your base payment method of choice.
eBay will attempt to charge your Paypal account for any and all outstanding fees when you account goes NARU.
Just the same way that they would attempt to charge your credit card you have on file for these outstanding fees.
See above for the finishing steps you have to deal with.

------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
You have also provided eBay with another direction to link you.
If the information in your Paypal account does not match your eBay information that is bad.
If you make a mistake and pay from the wrong Paypal account that is REALLY bad.
But the entire idea behind the "Stealth Account" is to provide eBay with no information aside from the minimum required.
If you pay your eBay fees with your Paypal account you are adding to your eBay information file and that is not good.
Do not link your Paypal Financial Information to eBay.
The less eBay knows the better off you are.

Now if you would have NEVER paid eBay with Paypal none of these things could ever happen.
I am not saying that they will happen every time a account goes NARU.
I am not saying that it will happen to 1 out of 10 accounts.
The above listed scenarios could happen to you... And have happen to me before in the past.
Remember the only advise that I post are situations that have happened to me in 1 way or another in my eBay history.

------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------

Originally Posted by Here We Go Again (Post 66393)

I have received quite a few PM’s lately and seen this in a few threads so here it is….
How to pay your eBay fees and do it safely.

This is assuming that you have set up you Stealth eBay account according to the Stealth Book and all is going well for you.

When you have an eBay account that is doing well you must pay your fees in order to keep that account doing well.
This is what I do on all of my accounts.
I have accounts selling items everyday and have been for OVER 1 YEAR.
I have a Deluxe Gift Card as my default credit card on file.
The funds have run out on this card about 10 months ago.
As long as you pay your fees BEFORE the date that eBay automatically tries to collect them from your card on file they will NEVER know that the card on file is a dead card.
I go to Walgreens every month and purchase a few $100 Yellow gift2go cards.
I then log into the gift2go web site and load the correct eBay user information onto the card I want to use.
Then I log into the separate user account I have set up on my computer for this account.
Then I use AOL Dial-Up to gain access to the Internet.
Then I use my regular web browser to log into my eBay account I want to pay the fees on.
I go to the “Seller Account” > “One Time Payment” > “Pay with your credit card” > “Use a different Card”
This is where you enter the card numbers and Card Identification Number for the yellow gift2go card you have loaded the information onto.
I enter the card # and the 3 digit code on the back and the amount I want to pay.
Amount has to be less than the card value or equal to it.
Poof… My eBay fees are paid and I have NO PROBLEMS.
I do NOT use my paypal account to pay my fees for other reasons that I will not get into.

This routine has worked for me for a long time and I stand by it.
If you have a different way that works for you then good. This is mine.


ADDED on March 18. 2009

But you ask.... WHY??????

In order to sell on eBay 90% of us MUST link a verified Paypal to our eBay account....
We all know this.
eBay does this so that they can check your identity.
They use your Identity Information from Paypal to check the identity.

IF you do pay your eBay fees with your Paypal accounts here is what can happen:

Version 1:
If you set your eBay account to automatically pay its fees with your Paypal account you will lose.
If your account goes NARU eBay will STILL attempt to collect their outstanding fees through Paypal.
But you were smart and kept your Paypal account empty.... Right?
Paypal will pay eBay and your account will go into the negative.
Now your Paypal account is in the negative.
Your Bank account that is attached to this Paypal account will get hit by Paypal for its outstanding balance.
But you were smart and kept that Bank Account empty of funds.... Right?
So when Paypal attempts to get their money there is none there.
You have now been hit with a over-draft fee by your bank. Somewhere between $10 and $40.
Paypal will keep doing this to you account in order to recover their funds.
Sometimes up to 5 times before they stop... If they do.
Each time you get hit with a over-draft fee.
Now your Bank Account is in the negative. BAD NEWS for you because your account is in your REAL NAME.
Now you have to pay the bank.
All of this could have been avoided by just paying your eBay fees with a Pre-Paid Credit Card.


Version 2:
If you just pay your fees with Paypal and do not have it set for automatic withdraw.
If your account goes NARU eBay can STILL attempt to collect their outstanding fees through Paypal.
Because that is your base payment method of choice.
eBay will attempt to charge your Paypal account for any and all outstanding fees when you account goes NARU.
Just the same way that they would attempt to charge your credit card you have on file for these outstanding fees.
See above for the finishing steps you have to deal with.

------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
You have also provided eBay with another direction to link you.
If the information in your Paypal account does not match your eBay information that is bad.
If you make a mistake and pay from the wrong Paypal account that is REALLY bad.
But the entire idea behind the "Stealth Account" is to provide eBay with no information aside from the minimum required.
If you pay your eBay fees with your Paypal account you are adding to your eBay information file and that is not good.
Do not link your Paypal Financial Information to eBay.
The less eBay knows the better off you are.

Now if you would have NEVER paid eBay with Paypal none of these things could ever happen.
I am not saying that they will happen every time a account goes NARU.
I am not saying that it will happen to 1 out of 10 accounts.
The above listed scenarios could happen to you... And have happen to me before in the past.
Remember the only advise that I post are situations that have happened to me in 1 way or another in my eBay history.

------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------

Originally Posted by Therealrenodaret (Post 1031975)

Sure I do it