| | | gonzoman | 06-14-2015 10:58 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? We follow the same protocol because it currently guarantee a working account without the need to call. Your method cannot be taught with a guide so I think it makes no sense to promote it here. You obviously do better with that ( hence got bigger...) but you might give the wrong impression to people who just start with stealth that it is a good idea to call eBay when we all know it is not, except to you and to few others maybe. |
| GhostOfAmazon | 06-14-2015 11:18 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzoman
(Post 677781)
We follow the same protocol because it currently guarantee a working account without the need to call. Your method cannot be taught with a guide so I think it makes no sense to promote it here. You obviously do better with that ( hence got bigger...) but you might give the wrong impression to people who just start with stealth that it is a good idea to call eBay when we all know it is not, except to you and to few others maybe. | Again, you're assuming that the majority of people WANT to run 5+ accounts, which isn't true. It's a hassle, it's expensive, and it's not necessary (depending on your goals).
My method can be described in a guide, and in fact, it's already been written (not even by me, imagine that!). Thread is in my sig. |
| james13v | 06-15-2015 01:04 AM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzoman
(Post 677781)
We follow the same protocol because it currently guarantee a working account without the need to call. Your method cannot be taught with a guide so I think it makes no sense to promote it here. You obviously do better with that ( hence got bigger...) but you might give the wrong impression to people who just start with stealth that it is a good idea to call eBay when we all know it is not, except to you and to few others maybe. | Ugh, I don't know why I always side with the guy that is the black sheep on the forums lol.
As long as the guide teaches people about proper stealth tactics, which would keep their accounts from being linked, then what the heck is wrong with calling ebay exactly?
What's the reason that this forum typically? Because it might tank an account and ruin the work you've done?
Well, considering that Ghost suggests to do this when first starting out with an account, almost everything this forum warns against, is moot. I really don't know how people run 10+ accounts. It's insane to me. 2-4 good accounts, should be more than enough. Unless you're selling vero or something else that will take down accounts often.
And no, it DOESN'T guarantee a working account as you suggest. People still get suspended left and right. |
| GhostOfAmazon | 06-15-2015 01:20 AM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 677793)
As long as the guide teaches people about proper stealth tactics, which would keep their accounts from being linked, then what the heck is wrong with calling ebay exactly?
What's the reason that this forum typically? Because it might tank an account and ruin the work you've done?
Well, considering that Ghost suggests to do this when first starting out with an account, almost everything this forum warns against, is moot. I really don't know how people run 10+ accounts. It's insane to me. 2-4 good accounts, should be more than enough. Unless you're selling vero or something else that will take down accounts often.
And no, it DOESN'T guarantee a working account as you suggest. People still get suspended left and right. | Thank you. I've been preaching this day and night almost since I registered here. I'm glad not everyone here is deaf to the logic of what I'm saying.
For the record: I am NOT against having multiple accounts NOR "backup" accounts. What I AM against is this "my way or the highway" attitude promoted here. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Calling eBay does NOT make your account any less "strong" or any less likely to last longer than one that DOESN'T call, IF you follow the guidelines I outline, which, in summary, are:
1. Don't list high risk or VERO items.
2. Don't stutter, "forget", or act like a social retard.
3. Keep your feedback good and customer complaints to a minimum.
That's it! That's ALL you have to do to maintain a good eBay account, and you can call them 11 times a day if you so desire. The paranoia about eBay "requesting documents" is unfounded, and 90% of the people AGAINST calling eBay have NEVER called themselves!
eBay requests documents when something about your account is fishy. When you're selling VERO, when you "forget" your birthday, when your DSR's tank. NOT because some rep "had a bad day". People forget that what one rep does, ANOTHER can undo! Believe me, my original account I started in 2009 was suspended "indefinitely" over half a dozen times over the years for every reason under the sun, including: Copyright (VERO), bad feedback, shill bidding, and selling digitally delivered goods. I even had it NARU'd once, and STILL managed to get it reinstated! How did I do it? Just called eBay until I found a rep sympathetic to my case. Now, they didn't reinstate it right there on the phone, it took a day minimum, usually 2-3, but it did happen. Sure, eventually eBay got tired of my shenanigans, but everyone has their limits.
TL;DR eBay reps don't just "randomly" suspend accounts or request documentation. Further, even if they did, another rep could undo the action. |
| james13v | 06-15-2015 12:13 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? You know, everyone keeps talking about limits raising automatically. My main account, didn't move anywhere until I called in. My second account ( stealth), hasn't moved anywhere in 2 years. 2 YEARS! Bought it from a member here at $5000 limit. I've ended some months listing $4995. Ended some months with $2500 in sales out of the $5000 limit. Not a budge. I'm sick of hearing about these automatic limits. I could have called in over a year ago, and never have, because I was always worried about the boogeyman this forum keeps screaming about. So yeah, I'm glad someone has the balls to go against the system |
| GhostOfAmazon | 06-15-2015 03:15 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by james13v
(Post 677918)
You know, everyone keeps talking about limits raising automatically. My main account, didn't move anywhere until I called in. My second account ( stealth), hasn't moved anywhere in 2 years. 2 YEARS! Bought it from a member here at $5000 limit. I've ended some months listing $4995. Ended some months with $2500 in sales out of the $5000 limit. Not a budge. I'm sick of hearing about these automatic limits. I could have called in over a year ago, and never have, because I was always worried about the boogeyman this forum keeps screaming about. So yeah, I'm glad someone has the balls to go against the system | That's why I started the original (since deleted) thread (that included video proof) about calling eBay. I wanted to show people it was possible, and not only that, but EASY! A lot of people speculated that I was trying to harm the forum, or troll, or whatever, but honestly, when day after day people post threads (just like this one!) about how they have had their account limits maxed out for X months and never seen an "automatic" increase, it makes me put my head in my hands. It's perfectly fine to wait for "automatic" increases, if that's what works for you and your business, BUT, not everyone has the time, patience, money or resources to handle 5 or 10 accounts while waiting for the "automatic" increases, which is the reason WHY eBay allows people to call and request limits in the first place.
I am NOT on a campaign for everyone to call eBay. I only want those who desire increases NOW instead of at some indefinite point in the future to know
A. It's possible.
B. It's easy.
C. How to do it.
That's it.
If calling doesn't make since to you because you can make accounts with 1000 limits in your sleep, great! Awesome job! 95% of members here DO NOT have that knowledge, so for them, it helps to know there are alternative methods. |
| Dmshark25 | 06-15-2015 04:09 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? I'm not commenting in calling in or not calling in, that is up to the seller and how they want to run their accounts, there's many different ways to operate successfully.
But making multiple accounts does not need to be expensive Ghost, I make my accounts for free.
Not exactly free, but if you have a home connection, such as Comcast, and you can easily switch IPs by changing your MAC address in router settings, so u can get unlimited IPs
Than I'll use a free App for a phone number, entropay for a VCC, and really assuming my internet bill is paid each month the only cost is the 1.95 I transfer to a VCC I make with entropay.
I'll also use tracfone, but when they have these sales where u get 6 phones for $5.31 I'll purchase a lot
So I'll either use a phone that was purchased for less than $1 or a free App for a number and Entropay for a VCC
SO each account costs me 1.95 to 2.95 to make and than my comcast internet bill , so accounts don't need to be an expensive cost |
| GhostOfAmazon | 06-15-2015 04:37 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmshark25
(Post 677966)
But making multiple accounts does not need to be expensive Ghost, I make my accounts for free. | Completely agree! I've tried stating this in other threads, as the argument against calling eBay is often something along the lines that "an account costs $50+, risking it by calling" and I tried to iterate my point (earlier in this thread, actually) that the accounts *I* make are very inexpensive! Quote:
Not exactly free, but if you have a home connection, such as Comcast, and you can easily switch IPs by changing your MAC address in router settings, so u can get unlimited IPs
| I have Time Warner, works the same for me. Unfortunately, not all members have access to dynamic IPs. My advice is well-suited for them. :) Quote:
Than I'll use a free App for a phone number, entropay for a VCC, and really assuming my internet bill is paid each month the only cost is the 1.95 I transfer to a VCC I make with entropay.
| Actually it's even cheaper if you just transfer $1 dollar from your "Default" Entropay card. Cost per card is only 1.20 (20 cents for transfer fee) and after you create and verify the account, you can delete the account and the dollar gets transferred back to the "Default" card. Total cost per VCC? 20 cents. Hope that tip helps! :) Quote:
I'll also use tracfone, but when they have these sales where u get 6 phones for $5.31 I'll purchase a lot
So I'll either use a phone that was purchased for less than $1 or a free App for a number and Entropay for a VCC
| Could you PM me the name of the app you use for phone #'s? And also, can you tell me how you keep track of the Tracfone sales? Is there an email notification I can sign-up for? Much appreciated! =} |
| gonzoman | 06-15-2015 04:42 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Some Kroger stores have tracfones for $4.99 but they run out of stock quick |
| Dmshark25 | 06-15-2015 04:50 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? For Entropay I'm just talking about the $1.95 test charge, I didn't include whatever the small fee would be, that's where I came up with $1.95
Also I won't confirm the VCC until I complete creating the seller account and once I know I have limits and it's not a dud 0/0 than I'll confirm the card
So I can just delete the VCC and the $1.95 will go to my default card and I can use that for another account
The phone App I use is TEXTNOW
Lately i been using tracfones because of the deal where they have been giving them away for free u just need to pay $5.31 for shipping, but TEXTNOW ,works, u also get an email if someone calls or texts that number
U just need to make a text like every 10 days to keep the number active
I just log into tracfone.com once a month, so far there was a deal in December and another a month or two ago, so I just loaded up each time, they also come with 20 minutes and 60days of service |
| Dmshark25 | 06-15-2015 04:53 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Now that I'm making money I also have other devices and services I pay and use, but they are things I added over the last 3 years and not necessary but make operations easy
But when I started I didn't have much money so , it is possible to make a stealth and run it well with not much |
| GhostOfAmazon | 06-15-2015 04:55 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? What advantages are there to the "test charge"? I've never done it. Should I start? |
| JamesNorth101 | 06-15-2015 05:05 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? It confirms the PayPal and it does make an account stronger |
| Dmshark25 | 06-15-2015 06:15 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? It also lifts the send/withdraw limits, by verifying your bank and confirming your VCC |
| Speeder33 | 06-15-2015 10:40 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon
(Post 677981)
What advantages are there to the "test charge"? I've never done it. Should I start? | The test charge is less than 2 dollars, highly worth making an account stronger. |
| GhostOfAmazon | 06-15-2015 11:42 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Much appreciated James, Dmshark, and Speeder. I will start doing that from now on my PayPal accounts. =} |
| miketyson | 06-16-2015 10:58 AM | Re: Limits increase schedule? I was told by ebay before I was suspended on my real account that the way the limits on the account works is very similar to the way you have a credit limit on a credit card. So maxing out your card with low limits and paying it off will yield high limits. Maxing out a high limit card will yield risk as if you can pay it back or not. Most credit cards have automatic increases no late payments etc and some you have to call in for manual review. So everybody can apply the credit card term to ebay. Weather you have good credit or not you can research it to figure it out. |
| notsosureaboutit | 06-22-2015 10:08 AM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by notsosureaboutit
(Post 676209)
Just go an increase 2-3 days ago on a bought stealth account (2-3 month old now).
It was usd500 before now its usd1000 . Sold one high risk item, shipped it and got great feedback, got limited by paypal in between, then unlimited, sold another item and did send it with tracking number, and got the increase :0 | just got another increase 2 weeks after the last one from 10-20 / $1000-$2000.
Only sold about 2-3 items in between, however was $50 close to the $1000 mark. Didn't get any new feedback in between.
Oh, and I did pay my ebay fees a few days in advance.
Hope that helps |
| GhostOfAmazon | 06-22-2015 03:04 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by notsosureaboutit
(Post 679591)
just got another increase 2 weeks after the last one from 10-20 / $1000-$2000.
Only sold about 2-3 items in between, however was $50 close to the $1000 mark. Didn't get any new feedback in between.
Oh, and I did pay my ebay fees a few days in advance.
Hope that helps | That's great man! Glad to hear you're successful. Still doesn't approach day 1 limits on accounts that start with 0/0 (Google Voice) and they call in, but not bad! |
| notsosureaboutit | 07-25-2015 07:51 AM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by notsosureaboutit
(Post 679591)
just got another increase 2 weeks after the last one from 10-20 / $1000-$2000.
Only sold about 2-3 items in between, however was $50 close to the $1000 mark. Didn't get any new feedback in between.
Oh, and I did pay my ebay fees a few days in advance.
Hope that helps | Increased again, did hit the old limit 24 hours ago, and now they give me 40 /4000 :)
Had a return request in between and got one or two positive reviews. |
Re: Limits increase schedule? Great News!
Provide the best customer experience to your buyers and you can be sure of increases! I assure you these increases will come consistently when your doing everything right! |
Re: Limits increase schedule? Completely Agree with Play, I started a stealth with 5/$500 which I constantly hear people bitching about.....Now it's up 90/$9,000 within 30 days! |
| GhostOfAmazon | 07-25-2015 05:59 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 688855)
Great News!
Provide the best customer experience to your buyers and you can be sure of increases! I assure you these increases will come consistently when your doing everything right! | Sorry Play, but that simply isn't accurate....
Not a week goes by where someone isn't complaining about the limits increase schedule and how long it takes to go from 5/10 items to whatever, because it's been (60/90 days, 6 months, a year) and they haven't seen a single increase despite "perfect" feedback and DSR's, no VERO, no high risk...etc.
It appears to be completely random. There's no predicting it. |
Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon
(Post 688979)
Sorry Play, but that simply isn't accurate....
Not a week goes by where someone isn't complaining about the limits increase schedule and how long it takes to go from 5/10 items to whatever, because it's been (60/90 days, 6 months, a year) and they haven't seen a single increase despite "perfect" feedback and DSR's, no VERO, no high risk...etc.
It appears to be completely random. There's no predicting it. | Just want to point out, Im here in the UK, I have numerous stealth accounts being operated simultaneously and my method is working fine. If its working for me, its working for me. Im not saying its a one method for all. But I am saying its working for me. If someone else is saying it working for them, I am just reiterating, it works. In which case, it works for them and it works for me. Doesnt meant it may work for everyone. No point going on and on, all I am saying is, it works for me. |
| solefoodbk | 07-26-2015 03:45 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Good job play, your right. :thumb:
At the end of the day if it works for you and what your selling that is the ONLY thing that matters. |
| GhostOfAmazon | 07-26-2015 04:56 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 689240)
Just want to point out, Im here in the UK, I have numerous stealth accounts being operated simultaneously and my method is working fine. If its working for me, its working for me. Im not saying its a one method for all. But I am saying its working for me. If someone else is saying it working for them, I am just reiterating, it works. In which case, it works for them and it works for me. Doesnt meant it may work for everyone. No point going on and on, all I am saying is, it works for me. | No, you said: Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 688855)
Provide the best customer experience to your buyers and you can be sure of increases! I assure you these increases will come consistently when your doing everything right! | As stated earlier, this is false. Numerous members have reported this is NOT the case for most people. You implied it works for EVERYONE, which it does NOT. |
| JamesNorth101 | 07-26-2015 05:03 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Techincally Play is right
Increase do eventually come. 90% of the time increase are pretty rapid, but sometimes an account can be stuck at the same limits for months, even years. That does not mean that an increase will not eventually come though. As mentioned elsewhere in these cases its a case of risk v reward when ringing eBay on that sort of account |
| GhostOfAmazon | 07-26-2015 05:10 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 689271)
Techincally Play is right
Increase do eventually come. 90% of the time increase are pretty rapid, but sometimes an account can be stuck at the same limits for months, even years. That does not mean that an increase will not eventually come though. As mentioned elsewhere in these cases its a case of risk v reward when ringing eBay on that sort of account | Not unless the UK has a different definition for the word "consistently". Consistently | Define Consistently at Dictionary.com |
| JamesNorth101 | 07-26-2015 05:15 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Accounts will consistently get increase. This does not mean absolutly always within a set time frame. Simply that accounts will always get increases eventually (90% of the time pretty often)
There may well be a gap between the increases sometimes which is when the risk v reward of ringing eBay aspect comes in it |
| yankee | 07-26-2015 05:17 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? The accounts that sell to limits that don't get increases are the EXCEPTION. Must be hundreds of threads about rapid increases selling/listing to the limits and offering instant shipping with tracking.
Only a handful of people saying they are not getting increases. |
| GhostOfAmazon | 07-26-2015 05:21 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 689276)
Accounts will consistently get increase. This does not mean absolutly always within a set time frame. Simply that accounts will always get increases eventually (90% of the time pretty often)
There may well be a gap between the increases sometimes which is when the risk v reward of ringing eBay aspect comes in it | Yes, that is EXACTLY what consistently means!
What he said simply IS NOT true! If he used another word, it might be. But "consistently" and "randomly" are opposites.
Perhaps accounts "often" get increases automatically. But they do NOT "consistently" do so.
Anyways....I'm done arguing the point. What Play originally said is false, whether it be semantics or not. I'm not arguing to call eBay, I'm just pointing out that the post was not accurate.
Carry on. |
| JamesNorth101 | 07-26-2015 05:25 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? @yankee - Pretty much sums it up :thumb: |
| solefoodbk | 07-26-2015 05:32 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? There are plenty of threads actually providing step by step on how to get fast increases naturally.
If you follow the correct procedure, its true you will almost always get an increase within the first 90 days. And like I said before once you call in and start having them manually do it, for me at least the natural increase is tougher to get.
But the thing is.....
Natural increases have no limit. You can get triple or even 5x your current limits if your lucky but with calling in its ALWAYS double. Never had a aged account get higher than a double limit increase when calling in. |
| yankee | 07-26-2015 05:37 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? I can consistently get an increase within seven days and another on the 30th just by listing rapidly to the point I have to edit listing quantity or end items to list more. Those initial raises are not best because it usually raises a 100 piece account 40 or 60 and minimal dollar amounts. The next raise 30ish days later is significantly more. |
| solefoodbk | 07-26-2015 05:41 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 689281)
I can consistently get an increase within seven days and another on the 30th just by listing rapidly to the point I have to edit listing quantity or end items to list more. Those initial raises are not best because it usually raises a 100 piece account 40 or 60 and minimal dollar amounts. The next raise 30ish days later is significantly more. | Yep.
I've found when say your limits are 100/5000, and you currently only have listed 60/3000 ...and you list up to max within the first 5 days of the new calendar month chances are you'll get an increase.
The bot that does the weekly review IF it catches your hitting your limits should give you a increase. |
| yankee | 07-26-2015 05:48 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? I started using your and Mr. Sharks techniques as well of just listing a big quantity at an exorbitant price(to deter sales) and then edit it down as you need room. Got some good increases this month on accounts I am just resting until the 90 day mark while growing more accounts getting ready for the busy and holiday season.
Thanks for that tip! |
Re: Limits increase schedule? I Just want to add
- I consistently get increases, in other words, ALWAYS. Never have I ever not gotten an increase on an account naturally.
- Furthermore, I dont sell to limits, maybe hit around 50% mark.
- Furthermore, I dont upload tracking information.
- Finally, im in the UK, so that point alone could defeat all your statements!
Im not here to persuade anyone of the right method of going about doing things. I am just sharing what works for me. Take it as you will. |
| solefoodbk | 07-26-2015 05:58 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Yeah I mean we all know paypal does sales projections when it comes to the irs tax request.
It makes perfect sense to me that if a bot sees you already hit your limit and its only the first week of the month, chances are it will undoubtedly give you a increase at some point in the month.
Thats what I usually do..
Take one item and increase its quantity and amount to make me hit the limits, then readjust it. Never had a issue come up.
But obviously if I did that with like a macbook my account would get flagged, just gotta be smart with it. |
| yankee | 07-26-2015 05:58 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? I also have never not received a raise and almost 100% of the time within the first 30 days. |
| last3379 | 07-27-2015 08:59 PM | Re: Limits increase schedule? Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 688881)
Completely Agree with Play, I started a stealth with 5/$500 which I constantly hear people bitching about.....Now it's up 90/$9,000 within 30 days! | Nice! Business or personal? | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:02 PM. | |
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