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Limits increase schedule?
 

Hi,

this question ws asked over 2 years ago. Maybe there is new info, so here goes..........

I have noticed when I get selling limit increases they usually come around the 3rd-7th of the month. Has anybody else noticed this? If ebay is increasing in the first week of the month, dodes anyone know if they have already done it for June?

I have an aco**** in very good standing that has been stuck at 30 for months. Several other accounts have started and surpassed this particular one.

My sales in that account are no better or worse then the growing accounts.

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I've had an account for 4 years, that I bought from here, that hasn't budged from $5000 a month. And there have been months where I've sold $2500 or more on it....

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Ive had increases to limits come in at any time of the month.
I don't think they have a specific schedule for it.

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In the UK, and has been the case for me personally, I have had limits always being increased around the 21st or so, once the monthly performance review was complete. So thats the date I have marked in my calendar, and I get the email with the good news around the same time, each time, as well. So I am always looking out for it when the date/time approaches :)

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hi yes i got one on the 3rd on my stealth 25 to 80

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Totally random in my case. Like, totally random.

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Did you get increase every month?

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Not at all! - If on that date I dont get an increase, I assume I wont till the next month. But my accounts do consistently get rises, I would say 80% of all I have made to date have gotten a few rises over the course of their life-span.

Now this may be just the way I make my account or it may be that ebay judges increases (for my case) on my performance, which is something I always endeavour to keep outstanding.

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My current limit is 20/1000 a month.
If they raise it would it be something like 30-50?

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From my experience, I usually start off at 10/650 (UK GBP-£) - and it follows shortly by 100/3,500. Sometimes after listing first item for sale I got 100/3,500. So it is very random, and a nice surprise to see what you get when you open the email :)

Advice: wait it out, be patient. need to sell more? buy an account off the forum - these are made by specialists, thus more likely to get frequent increase in allowance.

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The only thing that isn't random is that the bots every Friday do a check on our accounts to see if we're hitting our limits or not. Now after that who knows what happens. Obviously some other things factor because plenty people here hit their limits every month with no increase.

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I was on the phone with eBay and actually asked about this. Supposedly, we can call to increase limits once a month and eBay will automatically review our accounts twice a month to see if we qualify for automatic increases. So I guess theres a possibility of increasing limits three times every month if you were to scale like that. Obviously not recommended but theoretically.

eBay is known for telling bad info so this is just what a eBay rep told me.

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Here is the UK the limit is 30 days between increases, no ifs, no buts.

As for calling in, your playing with fire. As for calling in 3 times a month, your playing with ... (cant think of something worse than fire). You should never call in, bad idea.

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I was calling in for a account that was already in lots of trouble..

I'm saying it's possible to call once + two automatic increases per month

But yes, calling is not the best thing to do.

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Wait, I thought you had the perfect method, that works so well, and that calling for a limit increase is a waste of time, and you get paid 60 dollars an hour, etc etc etc?

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ive-i-use.html

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Actually....I have no clue what you are talking about.

But for the purpose of this conversation....

I have 123 accounts that are doing fine. I have one that is stuck on 30/3000 for nearly a year. It is that ONE account that I am experimenting with by putting hot selling items on it, max-ing out selling limits, shipping same-day...I just can't get the limits raised. I will not...never call about a limit raise.

The only way I would ever call ebay is as a Hail Mary for an account that is definitely lost and no other possibility of recovery.

So...yes, I DO have a system that has worked for plenty of accounts, just not this one. And yes...I DO make about $60 per hour when I work because I work hard, don't BS around, and only put in a few hours per day by choice.

If that does not address your point, try to get someone to help you get your message across next time.

:deadhorse:

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I referenced the thread in question. Here it is again. Try clicking links next time.

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...account-2.html

123 accounts? LOL! You sound like a child banging on the keyboard. Could have at least come up with a non-consecutive number to make it sound real.

Then quit complaining how they don't give you increases. NO ONE else has given you a sure-fire solution. If you know it all, don't ask for advice.

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Think OP meant accounts sold by forum member 123, as oppose to the numerical value of stealth accounts he possesses.

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Another case of pot calling the kettle black.

Only GOA may give advice to ya'll.

Hope you never forget that

:rolleyes:

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Perhaps, but that was not made clear in the post. If that's what he intended to say, the proper way to word it would be "I have accounts purchased from 123 that are doing fine."

Furthermore, if that IS indeed what he is claiming, it proves nothing. It's not difficult to shell out 300 dollars to buy an account. That's why people do it, because it requires no effort.

As I said in another thread. I learned from the best.

Every argument against my method has been some form of the following:

We are "experts" and you have no idea what you're talking about, you have only been a member of this forum for x months, I've been here for x amount of time. I know everything and you're stupid.

So I'm fighting fire with fire. Too hot? Get out of the kitchen.

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I get limit increases any time of the month. Used to be after the 20th. Lately happens any time.

I doubt it's really random. It just seems that way to us because we don't know the criteria and algorithm they're using to increase limits.

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I don't think there's an algorithm.

If there is, there are a lot of liars here discussing their limit increases and associated accounts.

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I personally think there isnt just one algorithm, but multiple different algorithms that need to be trigerred to increase allowance. I also believe that these algorithms are different and optimised for each country.

Like I said before, I dont call ebay, and my increases are straight after monthly review based on performance. That could be one of the many algorithm's.

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As I said, COUNTLESS members have posted regarding limit increases, making statements such as "perfect feedback and lots of sales" etc etc etc. Everyday there's a new post about this, yet "no limit increases for x time".

Either they are lying or there is no algorithm, because those two reports contradict one another.

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Hence why I said, these algorithms are most likely optimised based on different countries. Your performance may not be sufficient to trigger increase in US, but is for me in UK.

Anyway, I think the best thing to do is what works best for each individual. For me its performance, for you it may be calling in, for someone else it may be a hybrid of both.

Hope that helps :)

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GOA, correct me if I am wrong here, but are you suggesting that all limit increase are done manually by someone at eBay?

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##yep same here :humble:

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I'm not stating this directly. What I *am* saying is that something doesn't add up.

IF we are to believe the various reports that are posted daily on these very forums, then the algorithms don't make sense. If these people are all telling the truth, i.e. they have perfect feedback, no low DSR's, no buyer claims, maxed out their limits, etc etc etc. then either the algorithms aren't functioning as intended or they don't exist.

Now, it COULD BE that those posting are lying, that they are fabricating their accounts performance for whatever reason, maybe the posters believe that by admitting there are defects on the account other members won't help them. I'm not claiming I know whether they are being honest or not. I'm just saying that if we take the reports at face value, eBay algorithms don't add up.

I don't think there is enough data at this point to conclude whether or not there are or are not algorithms , I just believe that blindly stating "account increases are automatic and done by eBays bots" is a rather inadvisable assumption, given how little evidence there is to support it.


TL;DR

It's possible all "automatic" limit increases are the result of a human eBay employee reviewing the account and deciding to increase limits.

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Just wanted to clarify, Play, I'm not trying to say "I'm right you're wrong."

I'm just trying to open up the idea that eBay bots aren't increasing limits. I don't know for a fact that they do or don't. But if the forum is open-minded, we might get closer to concrete evidence.

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Why does it matter to have a defined reply?

Broadcasting the solution all over the forum, and hence the net, will only see the game change.

As Play says better to have each seller work to sell to levels that suit their plans.

No need to be repeatedly assuming people lie. That only serves to put users off from sharing info. It is creating a bad taste around here with this theory being constantly thrown about .

:peace:

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You're missing the point.

My personal opinion on the matter is that they are telling the truth. BUT, if we accept that premise, that means there is no algorithm.

If THAT is true, then it follows that a human is reviewing accounts and determining an increase.

If that's the case, there's even less reason not to call eBay.

Why do I want to find out whether there is a bot reviewing or human? Because the information affects ALL stealth users.

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Just go an increase 2-3 days ago on a bought stealth account (2-3 month old now).

It was usd500 before now its usd1000 . Sold one high risk item, shipped it and got great feedback, got limited by paypal in between, then unlimited, sold another item and did send it with tracking number, and got the increase :0

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I am really not following the logic here tbh...

I have operated enough stealth accounts to be pretty dam certain that there are bots that automatically hand out increases.

I have had accounts with less than perfect feedback and DSR get massive increase while accounts with perfect feedback and perfect DSR get much smaller increases at the exact same time. An account in the in the exact same position 1 month later has seen no increase at all.

I have had accounts that sell to 10% of their total selling allowance get their allowances tripled. I have had account selling to 100% of the allowance not budge limits wise. I have also had accounts that have sold 1 item a month for 3 months go from 100 items to 530 items in one jump

Why does this happen? Because there is not just 1 formula to running the perfect stealth account. Increases really are completely random.

Why is very very unlikely that eBay does not manually need to review each limit increase? Just think of the man power that would be needed for that.... If it was a manual review then that clearly would mean that someone would need to have reviewed the 1 item a month accounts and then decided it was a logical thing to increase it to 530 items. Based on this account combined with your premise that would mean that eBay would be looking at every selling account manually to see if there should be an increase. This sort of man power is well beyond them and it is a very inefficient use of resources.

I think you may be trying to make the facts fit the assumption that you have that calling is the way to go.

Calling is fine for 0/0 accounts. Nothing to lose. Calling for any other account is just being impatient and its really not needed.

If you get 10 lots of 10 item accounts and you cal on all of them you may if you are lucky you wont get an ID request and you will get 10 lots of 50 item accounts which is 500 items in total.

If you get 10 lots of 10 items accounts and sell them to the limits each month for 2 months you will A - Have a proven record with eBay and B - you are likely to end up with selling limits much higher than 500 items across the 10 accounts. It may be that 1 get limits of 100 items after a week (this does happen), another 4 get no limit increase and the rest get limits of 80 items over the coming month < This is the method I choose to follow and have done for years. It has never let me down and I have a lot of really great accounts because of it.

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If theres an algorithm, how does it work? You said that there is no pattern. Bots, scripts, programs, whatever you call them....they work within a set of parameters. Based on what you've said, there are none. (I'm assuming from that you created all of the accounts mentioned using the same method)

lol....this is eBay we're talking about.

You do realize that MOST eBay members do call eBay for limit increases, right? The majority of eBay sellers are regular members, NOT stealth users. When you call for an increase, the reps spend literally 90 seconds on your account. They always put you on hold while they do it, and they are never gone longer than that. I don't think it's a lot of "manpower".

As I said, some people don't have the time and money to waste fooling around with 5 or 10 items per month accounts. Not everyone wants to blow $300 to purchase an account either.

If your selling practices are solid, you have nothing to fear calling eBay.

False. You forget you don't call eBay ONE TIME, you call them EVERYTIME you want an increase. The limit increases compound, if you got a 500% increase once and you have a solid track record with the increase you got, the next rep will further increase your limits. I realize you never call eBay so you don't know this on a first hand basis, so you'll just have to take me at my word, or try it yourself. It works.

I'm not saying your method doesn't work. What I'd like to know is what's your success rate? How long----and how much money---do you need to spend to get a 5 or 10 item per month account to 50 items? To 100 items? To 500 items?

Ballpark average. How many of these accounts take longer than 3 months to get increases? Etc etc etc.

I realize you're probably better at creating the accounts and thus getting increases than the average person (just as I am likely more skilled than the average member at being smooth on the phone with eBay) so YOUR experiences might not match the average, I'm just trying to get a feel for the "pros" time-frame on account limits.

The reason I ask is, based on what other members have reported, the increases you described are far from average. I realize this is most likely due to a difference in account creation as well as the way the accounts are run, so I'm not implying you're falsifying your track record. Just saying the average person doesn't seem to have the same success.

To summarize:

• Algorithms still don't make sense based on what you said.
• I don't think eBay invests a lot of time into account limit increase reviews (based on personal experience of calling them every month for limit increases)
• Your records seem far better than average, based on self-reports from forum members. Interested to here your success ratio.

BTW, this is the kind of debate I was trying to have several months ago when I first mentioned calling eBay. The lack of algorithms is a THEORY, however, I'm not stating it as fact! I don't know whether eBay uses bots to increase limits or if accounts are reviewed by humans, but I am interested in finding out and hearing the thoughts of others. I'm trying to figure it out, just like you, so everyone, let's not degrade this debate into an insult contest, mmkay? (Directed to other members, not James.)

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A rep told me 30 days after your first sale you qualify for an increase if everything is good after a review of your account and for me to call after the 30 day mark for an increase.

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I've had limit increases on brand new account just after listing 1 item.....no clue why, just did......Who cares when they give out limit increases as long as they do.

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You are going to need to ask eBay that one.

Do you have any hard evidence to back this up or are you assuming?

This is just not true. Accounts do get banned for what are sometimes reasons that cannot be understood. It can be as simple as a rep that you are talking on the phone with having a bad day

Why does it need to cost any more? The account is being used to sell items and therefore makes me money.

Limits hit 200/300 items within 3 months 90% of the time.

You simply do not understand them. There is a differnce.

Not really. Most user report if they are having issues not if they are having success hence the apparent disparity.

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My point is, there is no discernible pattern.

Hard evidence? Sure. It's a well known fact in the psychology field that most people are more or less mindless sheep who do what they are told. Whenever you come close and/or hit your limits, you're directed to call eBay for an increase. I'd say there's also plenty of evidence that the average person isn't a paranoid schizophrenic, so they wouldn't be paranoid about eBay shutting them down. (Not insulting stealth members, just saying average people running regular accounts don't fear eBay)

That's utter fabrication. There is ALWAYS a reason. If a rep shuts you down, something you were doing or the way you acted tipped them off, or they knew you were a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ user, or you didn't do stealth properly. I've NEVER had a rep shut down my account on the phone. How many times have you called eBay and lost an account?

It's very easy to explain account shutdowns that happen from calling eBay. Are you stuttering? Did you "forget" your birthday? eBay employees aren't retarded monkeys, they can put two and two together.

I'm going off of the original post from the OP, who admits to wasting nearly $100 per account. I wasn't accusing you of doing the same, I was just curious.


You can get a comparable limits via calling eBay every 25 days.

I would like to point out a disclaimer:
Your mileage may vary! Realize that James has been making accounts for YEARS, he is FAR better than average at creating accounts and running them where they get increases. LIKEWISE, I'm probably smoother on the phone with eBay than most of you! BUT, I'll bet anything that you can get better at calling eBay faster than you can at creating accounts.


Fair enough, as I said, I'm not claiming there are no algorithms, however, given the data, evidence points to there not being any.

I will concede to your point here, there is certainly some selection bias going on with the reports on the forums.

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Is it one of those "I got bigger" arguments? Cause I got bigger. Ghost of, nobody here is a sheep. If we were we wouldn't have signed to this forum and would probably give up on ever selling on eBay again. There is no way in the world calling eBay is a better strategy than just waiting for an increased. For most people. Including myself.

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I disagree. I think the "average" person suspended by eBay isn't a sheep, as you said. However, the "herd" here all follow the same protocol. Many people don't want to manage 10 different accounts, logging IP's selling 5 items per account, having 10 different phones, etc. THOSE people would prefer to have ONE OR TWO accounts with decent limits, (for reference, 5/10 items a month isn't "decent").

Yours is looking pretty small now. =}