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secret storm 08-11-2015 09:32 PM

Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
I am absolutely shocked to have read on these forums about how so many of you have had your Paypal accounts limited from sending funds between your other Paypal accounts.

So I want to ask everyone what if you made lets say 3 accounts all with the same exact information such as Name, Address, City, Zip Code, Phone Number, Etc. and a slightly different Email because you can not have the exact same Email with other accounts.

Then you use the same exact Static IP to log into all 3 Ebay/Paypal accounts every single time and you used the same type of photos and descriptions on your Ebay listings.

Then from your Ebay sales you send funds to your main Paypal account.

Why would Paypal ever limit you for that?

Because you would just be sending funds to yourself? Or would this be some type of redflag to them?

I have never made multiple accounts with the same exact information just wanted to know your guys thoughts on it.

solefoodbk 08-11-2015 11:03 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
You can't have that many accounts.

One personal one business.

You will get limited if you do this.

Everything you just said is a contradiction of stealth even at its simplistic state.

123 08-11-2015 11:57 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
as solefood mentioned that just sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, talk about making it easy for them to link all your accounts

solefoodbk 08-12-2015 01:03 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 123 (Post 694221)
as solefood mentioned that just sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, talk about making it easy for them to link all your accounts

On a silver platter.

sax4 08-12-2015 01:34 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Don't be shocked, it's obvious for Paypal to see what you are doing

vogeltron 08-12-2015 04:07 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Lol, I hate to be the bearer of bad news everything you described was activity that use to take place back in the mid 2000's. Since the 2010 mandate for US accounts all that stuff is long gone. Like the other poster said one Personal account and one Business account. Anymore and it will become a problem.

muzzie 08-12-2015 04:40 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
A single person can not have more than 2 accounts, or it will violate EB policies and will be suspended. Moreover, if you have a personal account, and business account, and your business account will do something bad, BOTH of your accounts will be killed.

secret storm 08-14-2015 05:44 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
I knew that there had to be a catch for something so simple that wouldn't workout without Ebay/Paypal raining on your parade.

Just wanted to ask because I have never seen anyone talking about multiple stealth accounts with the same exact information.

rsot 08-16-2015 06:30 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
C'mon secret_storm - you're better than this post would suggest :)

GhostOfAmazon 08-16-2015 08:59 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 694293)
A single person can not have more than 2 accounts, or it will violate EB policies and will be suspended.

This is simply not true.

secret storm 08-16-2015 10:56 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 695705)
This is simply not true.

How is it simply not true?

GhostOfAmazon 08-16-2015 11:36 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secret storm (Post 695715)
How is it simply not true?

Maybe if you read eBays policies, some of you wouldn't have so many accounts being suspended....

Quote:

Users may have multiple accounts on eBay. We understand that there are various reasons why someone would choose to have more than one account.
Source:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...-accounts.html

secret storm 08-16-2015 11:57 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 695729)
Maybe if you read eBays policies, some of you wouldn't have so many accounts being suspended....

Source:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...-accounts.html

Yeah thanks thats what I thought you can have as many Ebay accounts as you wish its Paypal that can be a PITA.

Also im sure you can use the same information as I said earlier in regards to the same Last Name, Address, City, and Zip. You just need to use a different first name of a real person I mean just look at all the Millions of legit non stealth users of families that use Ebay/Paypal now that all live under the same roof.

Ebay cant ban everyone using the same information or there would be Millions of people banned and limited already from family members that all live under the same roof that use Ebay and Paypal. Im surprised nobody mentioned it that way instead you guys bash me unknowingly.

GhostOfAmazon 08-17-2015 03:26 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secret storm (Post 695732)
Yeah thanks thats what I thought you can have as many Ebay accounts as you wish its Paypal that can be a PITA.

Also im sure you can use the same information as I said earlier in regards to the same Last Name, Address, City, and Zip. You just need to use a different first name of a real person I mean just look at all the Millions of legit non stealth users of families that use Ebay/Paypal now that all live under the same roof.

Ebay cant ban everyone using the same information or there would be Millions of people banned and limited already from family members that all live under the same roof that use Ebay and Paypal. Im surprised nobody mentioned it that way instead you guys bash me unknowingly.

Yes, you CAN use the same information.

But doing so will inevitably link ALL accounts, and when one goes down, ALL will go down.

You don't think we go through these steps to keep our minds sharp do you?

Do what you want though. Couldn't care less.

Haidukken 08-17-2015 03:35 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 695509)
Gotta agree, like there are few functional Alcoholics who get crap done there a few weed heads that function properly as well.

Are you actually ****ting on weed?

secret storm 08-17-2015 06:54 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 695775)
Yes, you CAN use the same information.

But doing so will inevitably link ALL accounts, and when one goes down, ALL will go down.

You don't think we go through these steps to keep our minds sharp do you?

Do what you want though. Couldn't care less.

I don't know why your replying to my post #15 in the thread you should have sent that reply to every one else that said not to use the same information not me.

I'm well aware of accounts sharing the same fate when you send money to other Paypal accounts or use accounts with the same information.

So thank you for telling me something that is so blatantly obvious :p

GhostOfAmazon 08-17-2015 07:02 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secret storm (Post 696007)
I don't know why your replying to my post #15 in the thread you should have sent that reply to every one else that said not to use the same information not me.

I'm well aware of accounts sharing the same fate when you send money to other Paypal accounts or use accounts with the same information.

So thank you for telling me something that is so blatantly obvious :p

OP, read your original post. How much crack are you smoking?

secret storm 08-17-2015 07:15 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 696009)
OP, read your original post. How much crack are you smoking?

You should read through the thread and the post I made at #15 in the thread.

Everyone for the most part said not to use the same information except you and I replied back to you agreeing in a certain way.

dallis 08-17-2015 07:15 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
EB rules say you can have more than 2 accounts, but the products being sold have to be very different.

As if I'd believe anything EB says...

GhostOfAmazon 08-17-2015 07:29 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secret storm (Post 695732)
Yeah thanks thats what I thought you can have as many Ebay accounts as you wish its Paypal that can be a PITA.

Also im sure you can use the same information as I said earlier in regards to the same Last Name, Address, City, and Zip. You just need to use a different first name of a real person I mean just look at all the Millions of legit non stealth users of families that use Ebay/Paypal now that all live under the same roof.

Family members that live under the same roof ARE banned. Read the forum genius.

GhostOfAmazon 08-17-2015 07:38 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 696018)
EB rules say you can have more than 2 accounts, but the products being sold have to be very different.

As if I'd believe anything EB says...

Again, that's NOT what the policy says....

You can have as many accounts as you want, as long as you don't violate eBay policies.

It wouldn't make sense for them to limit the accounts you can sell on....so long as you follow their rules.

Please, STOP posting false info. Read the policies.

secret storm 08-17-2015 08:04 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 696024)
Family members that live under the same roof ARE banned. Read the forum genius.

Nah if that was true this forum would have WAY more and I mean way MORE than 60,113 members and WAY,WAY MORE than 2,796 active members.

From Father Son to Mother Daughter all across the world that all live together and use Ebay legitimately to buy and sell that were non stealth.

Ebay has public databases they can see who is real and who is not and they will know what family should live at what address.

If every single member that used Ebay or Paypal now was banned from real people that used their real information Ebay would be the most hated company in the world and #1 on every single most hated company list. All from families using their real information that got them banned.

I'm sorry your not smart enough to see and understand that GhostOfAmazon.

GhostOfAmazon 08-17-2015 08:14 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secret storm (Post 696030)
Nah if that was true this forum would have WAY more and I mean way MORE than 60,113 members and WAY,WAY MORE than 2,796 active members.

From Father Son to Mother Daughter all across the world that all live together and use Ebay legitimately to buy and sell that were non stealth.

Ebay has public databases they can see who is real and who is not and they will know what family should live at what address.

If every single member that used Ebay or Paypal now was banned from real people that used their real information Ebay would be the most hated company in the world and #1 on every single most hated company list. All from families using their real information that got them banned.

I'm sorry your not smart enough to see and understand that GhostOfAmazon.

What are you talking about?

If you, John Smith, live at 123 Main Street, Anytown, USA, 12345, and your account is suspended, and your sister, Jane Smith, lives at the same address, and has the same registration info except for the name, her account will also be suspended.

That's a simple fact. If you don't believe me, test it yourself.

secret storm 08-17-2015 10:34 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 696035)
What are you talking about?

If you, John Smith, live at 123 Main Street, Anytown, USA, 12345, and your account is suspended, and your sister, Jane Smith, lives at the same address, and has the same registration info except for the name, her account will also be suspended.

That's a simple fact. If you don't believe me, test it yourself.

I never said anything against one family member being suspended would NOT lead to another family member NOT being suspended.

But yes if you are John Smith that lived at 123 Main Street and did something wrong and got suspended Jane Smith that lived at 123 Main Street would also be suspended.

Its funny how you change your story and try to put words in my mouth.

I was replying to your post #22 when you said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 696024)
Family members that live under the same roof ARE banned. Read the forum genius.

That's clearly not true as I said earlier there are millions of families that live under the same roof at the same address that use Ebay that are not banned.

If every family that uses Ebay was banned like you said in post #22 this forum would have WAY WAY WAY MORE Members! Because there are Millions of families at the same address that use Ebay. You can find Aspkin's forums by simply doing a Google search with keywords of Ebay Suspended, Ebay MC999, Ebay Banned, ETC.

Its so funny how I have told you to look at your posts and have told you some of the same information over again. I feel like i'm talking to a 4th grader that has an attention span of a gnat.

GhostOfAmazon 08-17-2015 11:10 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secret storm (Post 696067)
I never said anything against one family member being suspended would NOT lead to another family member NOT being suspended.

But yes if you are John Smith that lived at 123 Main Street and did something wrong and got suspended Jane Smith that lived at 123 Main Street would also be suspended.

Its funny how you change your story and try to put words in my mouth.

I was replying to your post #22 when you said:



That's clearly not true as I said earlier there are millions of families that live under the same roof at the same address that use Ebay that are not banned.

If every family that uses Ebay was banned like you said in post #22 this forum would have WAY WAY WAY MORE Members! Because there are Millions of families at the same address that use Ebay. You can find Aspkin's forums by simply doing a Google search with keywords of Ebay Suspended, Ebay MC999, Ebay Banned, ETC.

Its so funny how I have told you to look at your posts and have told you some of the same information over again. I feel like i'm talking to a 4th grader that has an attention span of a gnat.

*le sigh*

You're obviously a troll who's deliberately misunderstanding me to try and argue. I'm not going to entertain your pointless babble any longer. You're not smarter than eBay---your theory sucks, it's been tested and it's failed more times than my post count. Instead of trying to have pointless arguments, try READING the forum, you'll learn a lot.

Then again, maybe not. You appear to be quite incompetent.

:argue:

secret storm 08-17-2015 11:56 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 696078)
*le sigh*

You're obviously a troll who's deliberately misunderstanding me to try and argue. I'm not going to entertain your pointless babble any longer. You're not smarter than eBay---your theory sucks, it's been tested and it's failed more times than my post count. Instead of trying to have pointless arguments, try READING the forum, you'll learn a lot.

Then again, maybe not. You appear to be quite incompetent.

:argue:

blahahahaha GhostofAmazon i'm laughing hysterically at you now. Look at the links below where families have had accounts that live in the same house.

Its you that needs to do your research to learn and get to know what your talking about before you speak

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/multipl...e-address.html

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackha...r-same-ip.html

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...-accounts.html

http://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive...r/td-p/3119972

Its very common for families to use the same information just different first names as I have told you countless times now. These links I posted are not even a bucket out of the ocean.

Just image how many family accounts use Ebay that seldom or frequently to buy and sell things on Ebay and your telling me that every single one of them are banned now?

Why don't your go ahead and name the Husband and Wives that used Ebay and got banned, The Mother and Daughters that got banned, Or the Father and Sons that got banned ?

Because according to your posts it will get every single one of them banned.

dealagreeproceed 08-18-2015 12:15 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
uhhh hey guys your actually pretty much agreeing with each other. man some people love to argue:argue::nono:

tromoto 08-18-2015 01:47 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
In a few words, your system will not work. They will cough you sooner or later.

For a single person can have only 2 accounts. NO MORE.

GhostOfAmazon 08-18-2015 01:53 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tromoto (Post 696130)

For a single person can have only 2 accounts. NO MORE.

:doh:

Again, NOT true.

dallis 08-20-2015 09:20 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
In post #21 I said: EB rules say you CAN have more than 2 accounts

In post #23 Ghost said: You can have as many accounts as you want... STOP posting false info.

You're agreeing with what I said. What false information do you want me to stop posting?

Reading IS fundamental. :)

notsosureaboutit 08-20-2015 09:36 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 

GhostOfAmazon 08-20-2015 11:16 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 697013)
In post #21 I said: EB rules say you CAN have more than 2 accounts

In post #23 Ghost said: You can have as many accounts as you want... STOP posting false info.

You're agreeing with what I said. What false information do you want me to stop posting?

Reading IS fundamental. :)

The entirety of what you posted is as follows:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 696018)
EB rules say you can have more than 2 accounts, but the products being sold have to be very different.

Notice the bold part. That is NOT true. You can have two different accounts because you like to use account 1 on Tuesday and account 2 on Thursday. You don't need any particular reason. The only caveat is you can't use multiple accounts to circumvent eBay policy, period.

:deadhorse:

dallis 09-15-2015 09:59 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
EB policy: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...-accounts.html

Excepted from the EB policy page paragraph 1:

users who like to buy and sell may want separate accounts for each activity. Other users who maintain businesses on eBay may prefer to manage separate accounts for different product lines.

I know they limit it to two, because my personal experience ( repeated over the years ) is that more than two accounts selling similar products will cause all three to be shut down.

Also, because of the selling limits clause of this policy, the BEST case scenario is that the highest/lowest limit may be divided between all three accounts to prevent circumventing your selling limits, per the policy page as copied below:

Not allowed: Registering new accounts or using other existing accounts to avoid buying and selling restrictions or limits or other policy consequences.

By definition, as established above, using multiple accounts to sell the same or similar items IS a policy violation, by attempting to circumvent policy limits.

If you want to waste time, money and effort, go ahead and try, but the end result is inevitable.

VavoTechnology 09-15-2015 10:08 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 696078)
*le sigh*

You're obviously a troll who's deliberately misunderstanding me to try and argue. I'm not going to entertain your pointless babble any longer. You're not smarter than eBay---your theory sucks, it's been tested and it's failed more times than my post count. Instead of trying to have pointless arguments, try READING the forum, you'll learn a lot.

Then again, maybe not. You appear to be quite incompetent.

:argue:

Kid, shut the hell up. Nobody cares about your post count, theres experienced stealth sellers who just joined Aspkin after being mastered Stealth members on Blackhat.

Honestly, you started to insult him when telling him on how much crack he's smoking. Don't you find that quite rude. I would find it quite suspicious OP if I were PayPal and you had more then 2 accounts :) Just make sure your account doesn't get manually reviewed :P

Thanks everyone.

solefoodbk 09-15-2015 10:34 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Here we go again...:ranger:

GhostOfAmazon 09-15-2015 11:53 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dallis (Post 705206)
EB policy: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...-accounts.html

Excepted from the EB policy page paragraph 1:

users who like to buy and sell may want separate accounts for each activity. Other users who maintain businesses on eBay may prefer to manage separate accounts for different product lines.

Also, because of the selling limits clause of this policy, the BEST case scenario is that the highest/lowest limit may be divided between all three accounts to prevent circumventing your selling limits, per the policy page as copied below:

Not allowed: Registering new accounts or using other existing accounts to avoid buying and selling restrictions or limits or other policy consequences.

By definition, as established above, using multiple accounts to sell the same or similar items IS a policy violation, by attempting to circumvent policy limits.

If you want to waste time, money and effort, go ahead and try, but the end result is inevitable.

Pay attention to the bold.

Vocabulary is VERY important. You are NOT allowed to use multiple accounts to try to circumvent policies or account restrictions. You ARE allowed to have multiple accounts.

It's very simple.

SilentHill 09-16-2015 12:12 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Please rethink your ebay strategy or suffer.

rsot 09-16-2015 12:46 AM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentHill (Post 705232)
Please rethink your ebay strategy or suffer.

Cryptic message :thumb:

james13v 09-16-2015 03:59 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 697038)
The entirety of what you posted is as follows:



Notice the bold part. That is NOT true. You can have two different accounts because you like to use account 1 on Tuesday and account 2 on Thursday. You don't need any particular reason. The only caveat is you can't use multiple accounts to circumvent eBay policy, period.

:deadhorse:

You're right with the other stuff you've said, but not this one.

You can't in fact have 2 or more accounts, selling the same product .Not even in the same category of products. I've talked to many ebay reps about this.

Will you get banned? Maybe not. But can you ? Hell yeah, because you are circumventing selling limits. If you are selling the same products on multiple accounts, you are in essence selling twice as much of the same product, but spread over 2 accounts, instead of the limit you received on the one account.

You can have 2-3-4-5-6 accounts. I don't give a crap. But they are meant for DIFFERENT products. Different accounts in order to differentiate the product lines. So that you aren't selling automotive parts on the same account you're selling baby clothes.

yankee 09-16-2015 05:08 PM

Re: Has Anyone Tried This Method? What Would Ebay/PayPal Think Of It?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 705536)
You're right with the other stuff you've said, but not this one.

You can't in fact have 2 or more accounts, selling the same product .Not even in the same category of products. I've talked to many ebay reps about this.

Will you get banned? Maybe not. But can you ? Hell yeah, because you are circumventing selling limits. If you are selling the same products on multiple accounts, you are in essence selling twice as much of the same product, but spread over 2 accounts, instead of the limit you received on the one account.

You can have 2-3-4-5-6 accounts. I don't give a crap. But they are meant for DIFFERENT products. Different accounts in order to differentiate the product lines. So that you aren't selling automotive parts on the same account you're selling baby clothes.


Duplicate listing policies and shared selling limits come into play a well.


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