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username1 09-14-2015 11:58 PM

5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Any ideas? If I don't, my seller rating will go to"below average". I'm currently at 6.5% so need to raise it back again...

Ideas anyone?

jeffweico 09-15-2015 12:06 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
How many feedbacks are we talking about? 1.5% of 100 feedbacks total is a lot less than 1.5% of 10,000 feedbacks total.

username1 09-15-2015 12:12 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
170 feedback.

jeffweico 09-15-2015 12:18 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
So, basically, we are talking about 3 positive feedbacks? I would ask friends who do not live near me to buy my items and leave positive feedback 3 or 4 days later and I would pay them back for purchasing them.

I wouldn't recommend this as a long-term strategy, but I WOULD resort to it in this case. To potentially lose an account over 3 lousy feedbacks, I think it is worth taking the risk to avoid that.

Just remember that you need 3 unique buyers, not one person buying 3 items.

username1 09-15-2015 12:32 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Could I use my other stealth accounts? EBay and paypal wouldn't have a clue would they?

jeffweico 09-15-2015 12:34 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
It CAN be done, but never more than once, and it IS A RISK!

I would still recommend asking friends to help you. It is far safer.

Ebayorbust 09-15-2015 12:36 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
It's a bit more than 3 feedback he needs.

He has 6.5% low DSRs on 170 feedback so that's 11 low DSR ratings.

He needs to get to 5% so it's 11*(100/5) = 220 feedback.

He needs and extra 50 feedback without picking up any more low DSRs.

jeffweico 09-15-2015 12:41 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
I stand corrected. That is what I get for staying up until 1am...

username1 09-15-2015 12:41 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Ok so what's going to happen do we think on the 20th at review time??

Ebayorbust 09-15-2015 12:42 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
You'll drop below standard.

Will you get a selling suspension? Who knows.

username1 09-15-2015 12:57 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
I really don't want to get this account banned. I'm ready to risk anything to not get this banned (considering I may only have 5 days left of selling).

Ebayorbust 09-15-2015 01:02 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Do you know the reason why you picked up 11 low DSRs? Is it within your control to do something about?

If you continue to pick up low DSRs at the same rate then that is what is going to happen.

jeffweico 09-15-2015 01:04 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Even if you could get 50 positive feedbacks in 5 days, it would do more damage than good. A spike like that is CERTAIN to red flag your account. Sorry I miscalculated before. But I think the best thing to do now is to try tightening your operation in every way that you can to avoid negative feedbacks in the future. Because your account WILL go below standard, unfortunately. That does not always mean a suspension, but you are definitely on thin ice with eBay. Even ONE more negative feedback at this point could lead to a manual review of your account, which could lead to a suspension. So you have to try to avoid that at all costs. And start creating some stealth accounts right now! Don't wait for the axe to fall.

username1 09-15-2015 01:32 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
I have a few more stealths ready for operation. I know exactly how it's happened. I sold 7 items to one person individually (competitor). They left negative feedback even before they could have received the product!

muzzie 09-15-2015 02:58 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by username1 (Post 704938)
I have a few more stealths ready for operation. I know exactly how it's happened. I sold 7 items to one person individually (competitor). They left negative feedback even before they could have received the product!

Call EB and explain to them, that you were attacked by a competitor, who left unreasonable feedback. As 1 person leaving 7 negs is very suspicious, and if he sells the same things as you do, it guarantees, that negs will be removed.

username1 09-15-2015 03:13 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Im selling high VeRO stuff of this aged account so don't wanna push my luck.

I'll give it a go and report back.

dallis 09-15-2015 09:22 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Try and get them removed. What's the worst that can happen, they take the account down? It's probably toast anyway.

50 Positives in 5 days? When people only leave feedback 25-50% of the time? If you were selling 200 items a week, maybe.

If you don't call, sell what you can while you can while the account stays up, but consider this account to be a 'dead man walking', if it doesn't happen you'll be the luckiest guy on here this week.

desikanjar 09-15-2015 09:34 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Sell some cheap items at zero profit . That should do the trick . Not a good idea to use other stealths to buy as you risking damaging other accounts.

username1 09-16-2015 01:06 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
If I have 170 feedback with DSR at 6.5 defect. Surely I don't need 50 to get myself back in 5 percent?

Ebayorbust 09-16-2015 01:12 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
You need 50 to get your defect rate back to 5%. Probably a few more than that as well to get below 5% assuming Ebay round up the percentages.

This also assumes that all real customers buying the item leave a minimum of 3 stars for DSRs as well.

Ebayorbust 09-16-2015 01:16 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Actually just checked this, the defect rate % is calculated on transactions and not feedback received so it's going to be a lot more than 50.

How many transactions have you done?

OR look at the Seller Dashboard. What is the actual defect count?

Dmshark25 09-16-2015 01:23 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by username1 (Post 705263)
If I have 170 feedback with DSR at 6.5 defect. Surely I don't need 50 to get myself back in 5 percent?

If your trying to get your defect rate from 6.5% to 5% than you just need sales, you don't need 50 positive feedbacks

And I'm assuming the calculation was correct by saying 50, but whatever number it is it is defect free sales and not 50 positive feedbacks

Maybe I'm miss reading this but it seems you are concerned about your defect % but you are counting ur feedbacks

Defect percentage = number of defects / total transactions

Dmshark25 09-16-2015 01:27 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Also the evaluation on Sept 20 is based on months ending with Aug 31 anything this month will go onto Nov 20 evaluation

dealagreeproceed 09-16-2015 01:28 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
hmm looks like absolutely no one has any clue how many you truly need to stay alive man. personal experience you wont get canned right away. just start doing better... you probably gotta couple months to put account back in the right... :ranger:

Ebayorbust 09-16-2015 01:28 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmshark25 (Post 705271)
If your trying to get your defect rate from 6.5% to 5% than you just need sales, you don't need 50 positive feedbacks

And I'm assuming the calculation was correct by saying 50, but whatever number it is it is defect free sales and not 50 positive feedbacks

Maybe I'm miss reading this but it seems you are concerned about your defect % but you are counting ur feedbacks

Defect percentage = number of defects / total transactions

My bad. I initially calculated it against feedback received.

You will need more than 50 sales (probably a lot more) but as Dmshark has correctly pointed out, feedback is not required to be left.

username1 09-16-2015 01:31 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Ah it's only because someone asked about the feedback ratio.

I just wanna get myself back into the 5% margin so I do t go "below standard".

username1 09-16-2015 01:33 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Thanks everyone.

just_smile 09-16-2015 03:56 AM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Post your seller dashboard stats. Things have become confused with the talk of feedback. As mentioned your defect percentage goes off all sales.

So we need your total amount of transactions.

Then we can figure out how many more defect free sales you need to go from 6.5% to under 5.

james13v 09-16-2015 12:34 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
I've been so confused this whole time about why everyone was talking about feedback lol couldn't figure out what that had to do with defect rates. Glad that's all cleared up now

A total amount of sales for the past year would help out quite a lot. Otherwise, nothing anyone says means much.

J dub 1984 09-16-2015 12:53 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 705483)
I've been so confused this whole time about why everyone was talking about feedback lol couldn't figure out what that had to do with defect rates. Glad that's all cleared up now

A total amount of sales for the past year would help out quite a lot. Otherwise, nothing anyone says means much.

Thankfully they are going to change the transaction defect rate and DSR's come feb. 2016 which is nice for us sellers. I believe their getting away from that because it makes things difficult if your not doing the volume you'd like to be doing.

username1 09-16-2015 03:02 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Can I buy things or is it specifically detailed SELLER ratings??

Dmshark25 09-16-2015 03:59 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by username1 (Post 705516)
Can I buy things or is it specifically detailed SELLER ratings??



The 6.5% is your Defect Percentage is that Correct??

DSRs is something else

And Feedback % is another thing

A lot of words are being used incorrectly or interchangeably in this thread so Im not exactly sure what your trying to do , but im pretty sure you are speaking of your defect percentage when u say 6.5%

username1 09-16-2015 04:05 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Yes. Currently my defect rate is at 7%. If I'm not higher than 5%, I'll be below average seller score.

I urgently need to make this better within 3 days or I'll risk my account.

Dmshark25 09-16-2015 04:08 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by username1 (Post 705541)
Yes. Currently my defect rate is at 7%. If I'm not higher than 5%, I'll be below average seller score.

I urgently need to make this better within 3 days or I'll risk my account.



DEFECTS / TRANSACTIONS = D%

So the higher the transactions go the lower your defect % will be, the only way is to keep making as many sales as you can and the key is to make defect free transactions

Haidukken 09-16-2015 04:17 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
You guys have made a right meal of things to be fair.

1)You need transactions, not feedbacks.

2)You need transactions that are near perfect- No items received, returns or poor description ratings.

3)You need individual transactions, not customers coming back for more- If you have a returning customer in a 7 day period then it still counts as ONE transaction, even if they purchase 17 items over 9 different times.

4)You need seller transactions, not buyer.

5)You need transactions in the marketplace where you are in the red. If you are 6.5% in UK and sell to Global, then you are pissing in the wind and vice versa.

6)You will go over defect % anyway this month, as the defect % is calculated for previous month. Meaning that what you sell NOW will affect the NEXT evaluation.


You might think "Oh noes, my account is doomed" and that very well might be the case but there are couple of silver linings to the ****cloud that is fast approaching:

a)You have more than 5 days to sell, in fact you have till the end of the month to affect next evaluation period.

b)If you don't get the suspension right away and IF you are working with high limits, then they CAN start by just dropping your limits a bit- just as a warning.

c) You might actually have more time than you think.

Conclusion:
There is a major ****could heading your way and you might just have time to take cover. If you get lucky, you might get your limits lowered and your account will stay active and if you manage to get your transactions up, you might just be in a better situation next evaluation day.

There are many IFs and BUTs and MAYBEs , but the reality is that each account is treated differently and if you read the forum then you see that. You know that the ****storm is right around the corner, but you don't know how bad it is- It might be a light shower, something that can be dealt with by using an umbrella but it also might be he grandaddy of all ****hurricanes and you'll not survive it, even if you'd have a bunker at the back of your house.

All you can do is hope for the best, sell as much as the **** hits the fan and hope for the best. Thats literally all you can do.

My advice:
Get yourself suited and booted like Paddington did back in 1958 and get your mind and body ready for a ****fest. You will sell faster BEFORE they punish you because once they reduce the sellings limits, your ranking in eBay search will be affected also. If you don't get suspended right away, but they limit your limits then don't get undressed yet- Thats exactly what they want.
Once you do that, you'll notice that the ****storm that once was very brown and white has turned into cyber warfare where everything goes: Your listings will stay active, your account will not be suspended and on paper everything looks normal. In reality your listings will all suffer- Your items will not appear in search, they will limit the traffic to your listings and that means that you may as well book the bank, dress up nicely, get some flowers and arrange your account funeral- There is almost no way back from this.

Read between the lines:
Suspension is a quick death of an account. Reduced limits and above normal defect % will slowly just kill your account because without traffic, you will not sell and without sales, there are no transactions and without transactions, you will not improve the defect %.

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james13v 09-16-2015 04:35 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Haidukken (Post 705544)

3)You need individual transactions, not customers coming back for more- If you have a returning customer in a 90 day period then it still counts as ONE transaction, even if they purchase 17 items over 9 different times.

Where the hell did you get THIS from?

Haidukken 09-16-2015 04:45 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 705546)
Where the hell did you get THIS from?

Pretty sure its been mentioned couple of times in various different threads.
I might be off with 90 days, but I'm pretty sure the period is rather long.

I'll hit the Google and see if I can find exactly how it works, but I'm pretty confident I'm in the right.

james13v 09-16-2015 04:46 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Haidukken (Post 705547)
Pretty sure its been mentioned couple of times in various different threads.
I might be off with 90 days, but I'm pretty sure the period is rather long.

I'll hit the Google and see if I can find exactly how it works, but I'm pretty confident I'm in the right.

If I'm wrong, I'll retract my statement. But I do not recall every hearing about it being this long. Only thing I've ever heard, were transaction by the same customer within 7 days.

Haidukken 09-16-2015 04:50 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 705549)
If I'm wrong, I'll retract my statement. But I do not recall every hearing about it being this long. Only thing I've ever heard, were transaction by the same customer within 7 days.

Just checked eBay and you are indeed correct. They say its 7 days.
http://i.imgur.com/f8NRr7p.jpg

Last time I read that part of eBay was around November 3rd 2014 so they've might have changed it or I might have just brainfarted the 90 day period.

Mybad, I'll edit the original post.

james13v 09-16-2015 04:54 PM

Re: 5 days to raise my DSR by 1.5%
 
That actually doesn't address either of our concerns. They focus on feedback and not Defect ratings or otherwise.

That is in fact where I got my previous 7 day number from.

The question is, is it the same for defects.


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