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p4k1pr1nc3 10-26-2015 08:28 PM

Stealth EBay Asking Me To Verify Personal Information
 
I bought a stealth eBay account a couple months ago with 1000/$25,000 limits.

I started selling about a month ago but only listed one product(screen protector).

Today, I tried to list another product in the Consumer Electronics > Portable Audio & Headphones > iPod, Audio Player Accessories > Cables & Adapters category but eBay wouldn't let me list and started asking me to verify my personal information by asking background check questions that I don't have the answers to since its a stealth account. What should I do? Is my stealth account doomed? I didn't try to answer the questions, just closed the window. My other product I listed a month ago is still active.

JamesNorth101 10-26-2015 08:50 PM

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Best bet is to ask the seller who sold you this account how to go forward

Chuckchamberlain12 10-27-2015 06:40 PM

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It's just a category restriction because the account is new. The Cell Phone Accessory category is watched very closely by eBay. You need to sell dollar store junk or stuff around your house (not cell phone related) for a little while. Once you get a bit of a reputation and the account passes 90 days from first sale, you won't get prompted for that info anymore.

Then you can sell your profitless screen protectors, lol..

CDub 10-27-2015 08:43 PM

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Happened to me two days ago in a different category. I answered none of the above to the "background question," then it told me to call in to eBay. I called in, acted like nothing was wrong, they asked me some random questions, I answered. They said my address is real but a public records search says I don't live there and I don't exist. Then he said he was going to check with PayPal to see if my info is the same there, it is, so he told me to proceed and actually raised my limit.

I'm new so I'm not offering advice, just telling you what happened two days ago. I was just being cool and acting like I'm new to eBay and confused.

MM78 10-27-2015 08:57 PM

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Just a little bit of advice to everyone who buys accounts......Inform your seller on what items you plan to sell, a lot of headaches can be avoided by simply letting the account seller know your plans for selling.

People just assume that you can buy an account and go butt-crazy selling....not always the case. It's important to make Ebay think your New and build some trust.

Maliquest 10-28-2015 02:50 AM

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I avoid anything ELECTRONIC for the first 5 items with no feedback.

If you wanna be creative, list it in a different category but with the same title.

ilcarletto 10-28-2015 03:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maliquest (Post 717161)
If you wanna be creative, list it in a different category but with the same title.

Well, listing iPod, Audio Player Accessories in "Stationery & School Equipment", for example, will not solve any issue. It will probably generate brand new ones.

vogeltron 10-28-2015 03:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maliquest (Post 717161)
I avoid anything ELECTRONIC for the first 5 items with no feedback.

If you wanna be creative, list it in a different category but with the same title.

Even on a purchased account you should sell some low risk items. Used books, clothes or what we commonly refer to as household items on here. The limits on the account real mean nothing. eBay bots are looking at certain categories with high instances of phakes and selling fraud.

MM78 10-28-2015 07:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maliquest (Post 717161)
I avoid anything ELECTRONIC for the first 5 items with no feedback.

If you wanna be creative, list it in a different category but with the same title.

I would not suggest that to anyone.....

JamesNorth101 10-28-2015 07:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maliquest (Post 717161)
If you wanna be creative, list it in a different category but with the same title.

eBay do catch this a lot of the time

dicsolovag 01-29-2016 05:11 PM

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I had the same thing today. Created a stealth account yesterday (stealth name and address, linked Paypal that is fully verified). Today I tried to list an item for $5 with BIN of $25. No risk item at all.
eBay prompted me to verify my personal info which I accepted. It gave me a message that they could not verify the personal info and prompted me to call. If I call, they will start asking public record questions which I will not know the answers to...obviously....What do I do?

Mitsu 01-29-2016 05:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dicsolovag (Post 742939)
I had the same thing today. Created a stealth account yesterday (stealth name and address, linked Paypal that is fully verified). Today I tried to list an item for $5 with BIN of $25. No risk item at all.
eBay prompted me to verify my personal info which I accepted. It gave me a message that they could not verify the personal info and prompted me to call. If I call, they will start asking public record questions which I will not know the answers to...obviously....What do I do?

Dunno what to expect since I haven't had to go through that yet, but I will say what probably prompt this was setting a BIN... I don't think eBay likes BIN listings on newer accounts, especially the first listing.

dicsolovag 01-29-2016 05:53 PM

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Crap, I guess I messed up... I will call in, I guess there is nothing to lose.... If I can't get it resolved, does it mean that I need to start from scratch?

dicsolovag 01-30-2016 12:33 PM

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OK, so I called them. They said the address verification often fails when someone lives at the provided address for less than 3-6 months. The rep said it's OK, he just needs the previous address. Of course there is no such thing. Any ways around this? Establishing an account with all stealth info is impossible, isn't it?

phaz0rz 01-30-2016 12:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dicsolovag (Post 743141)
OK, so I called them. They said the address verification often fails when someone lives at the provided address for less than 3-6 months. The rep said it's OK, he just needs the previous address. Of course there is no such thing. Any ways around this? Establishing an account with all stealth info is impossible, isn't it?


STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW BEFORE YOU DESTROY YOUR ACCOUNT!

This has been discussed extensively on this forum. ALL NEW ACCOUNTS are subjected to category limitations for the first 90 days of selling. If you are trying to list something on a new account and eBay asks you to verify your credentials, that just means you are attempting to list in a category that has restrictions. In most categories with restrictions you will only be able to sell one item per 30 days, for the first 90 days of selling.

Once you've passed 90 days since your first sale the category restrictions go away as long as you've established a positive selling history.

Calling in and attempting to answer database questions for a fictional address is not very smart. You are seriously jeopardizing your account by calling in. JUST WAIT, don't lose your account. You will be able to sell what you are trying to sell after 3 months of selling..

:doh:

dicsolovag 01-30-2016 02:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 743142)
STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW BEFORE YOU DESTROY YOUR ACCOUNT!

This has been discussed extensively on this forum. ALL NEW ACCOUNTS are subjected to category limitations for the first 90 days of selling. If you are trying to list something on a new account and eBay asks you to verify your credentials, that just means you are attempting to list in a category that has restrictions. In most categories with restrictions you will only be able to sell one item per 30 days, for the first 90 days of selling.

Once you've passed 90 days since your first sale the category restrictions go away as long as you've established a positive selling history.

Calling in and attempting to answer database questions for a fictional address is not very smart. You are seriously jeopardizing your account by calling in. JUST WAIT, don't lose your account. You will be able to sell what you are trying to sell after 3 months of selling..

:doh:

It did not let me sell anything, I got a 0/0 seller account limit. How can sell like that? The reason I called in was to try to get at least 5/500. In essence I had nothing to lose.
I think this is the drawback of using a stealth name/address.
What categories are considered high-risk? I tried to list in electrical components/parts.

GhostOfAmazon 01-31-2016 01:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dicsolovag (Post 743141)
OK, so I called them. They said the address verification often fails when someone lives at the provided address for less than 3-6 months. The rep said it's OK, he just needs the previous address. Of course there is no such thing. Any ways around this? Establishing an account with all stealth info is impossible, isn't it?

This problem is so easily resolved, but you people want to make it complicated.....

The solution is to LIE.

Have ALL your info written down BEFORE you ever pick up a phone.

Have your "current address" your "previous address" and, just in case, an address before that.

Have creative excuses for why your info might not be in the database: Maybe you live in NYC or Chicago, and thus use public transportation, and don't have a license. Maybe you don't have any credit cards because you were taught it's bad for finances. If you never applied for anything, you won't HAVE records in any public database eBay has access to.

You don't HAVE to use the excuses, 90% of the time, providing the "current" and "previous" address (if asked, which only occurs about 20% of the time, in my experience) the rep will almost always give you a modest increase in limits (20-35%). While not much, it is a start, and your next call will be much easier, one, because you've already done it, and two, because eBay will see you've already been "vetted" by a previous rep.

If you paid 100+ dollars for an account, DON'T CALL ON IT. Create your own account for pennies and call on them. It's really not that hard. And be confident. If you can't speak clearly without sounding nervous, you won't succeed. Period.

dicsolovag 01-31-2016 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 743298)
This problem is so easily resolved, but you people want to make it complicated.....

The solution is to LIE.

Have ALL your info written down BEFORE you ever pick up a phone.

Have your "current address" your "previous address" and, just in case, an address before that.

Have creative excuses for why your info might not be in the database: Maybe you live in NYC or Chicago, and thus use public transportation, and don't have a license. Maybe you don't have any credit cards because you were taught it's bad for finances. If you never applied for anything, you won't HAVE records in any public database eBay has access to.

You don't HAVE to use the excuses, 90% of the time, providing the "current" and "previous" address (if asked, which only occurs about 20% of the time, in my experience) the rep will almost always give you a modest increase in limits (20-35%). While not much, it is a start, and your next call will be much easier, one, because you've already done it, and two, because eBay will see you've already been "vetted" by a previous rep.

If you paid 100+ dollars for an account, DON'T CALL ON IT. Create your own account for pennies and call on them. It's really not that hard. And be confident. If you can't speak clearly without sounding nervous, you won't succeed. Period.

I think you missed the point? There is NO previous address as everything is stealth. Yes, I can say that I just moved into the country since my name is hispanic....

XTC4ME 01-31-2016 04:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dicsolovag (Post 743305)
I think you missed the point? There is NO previous address as everything is stealth. Yes, I can say that I just moved into the country since my name is hispanic....

There is no previous address since it's stealth so you just make up a freaking address and write it down, now you have a previous address! It's pretty simple. Treat accounts like they are actual people, make up a history, background etc. You'll never need most of it but the smallest details make lies more believable.

GhostOfAmazon 01-31-2016 11:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by XTC4ME (Post 743309)
There is no previous address since it's stealth so you just make up a freaking address and write it down, now you have a previous address! It's pretty simple. Treat accounts like they are actual people, make up a history, background etc. You'll never need most of it but the smallest details make lies more believable.

LOL thank you for not being an idiot. People really make it out to be so f%*king complicated, and it isn't......

Just like you make up details for your stealth account, make up details about the non-existent identity you created. It isn't that hard people.

As long as you sound confident and have your **** together, i.e. are able to answer the very BASIC questions you're asked without "forgetting" anything (which will NEVER happen to you, because you'll follow my advice and WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN!) it's easier than taking toys from toddlers.

But otherwise, yeah, you just moved here from Mexico because you have a Hispanic last name, that's a GREAT excuse! And it's unique. I guarantee you'll be one of the first people to ever use that line on the rep.

dicsolovag 02-09-2016 12:00 AM

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So, what happens if eBay can not identify any of the info someone makes up (stealth) against the public database? Will they ask for ID, utility bill, etc?

sdot10 02-09-2016 12:12 AM

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you shouldnt even get that far. if you have reasons why you arent in the public database they wont check it. its that simple. hell ive told them that im not in any databases because i do government contract work and my clearance doesnt allow it. i even told them go ahead and try and then when i didnt come up there is already a reason. like Ghostofamazon said the name of the game is confidence. if you sound like you know what youre talking about why wouldnt they believe you?

Retailer77 02-09-2016 12:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dicsolovag (Post 745868)
So, what happens if eBay can not identify any of the info someone makes up (stealth) against the public database? Will they ask for ID, utility bill, etc?

YUP, they WILL ask you for photo id/utility.

I made a thread yesterday stating how I planned to use my friends information and partner up with him so in the event ebay asks for such information EVERYTHING will be genuine...the response I got from everyone on the forum was extremely negative and discouraging....everyone saying things like "you are not experienced do not do this," or "make up the docs if they ask" (not legal).

It's great how the VERY next day you post this thread and pretty much completely prove my point.

Mitsu 02-09-2016 12:54 AM

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What point? That you're scared and confused on how stealth works... so much that you're going to be giving your friend 15% of your profits just to use his financial information?

A few days ago you thought cookies were the same as IPs, and you didn't even know what a windows user account was. Please stop trying to make points, or preach 'legality' issues to people who have been doing this for years, instead try to actually learn and apply yourself to stealth.

At the very least, just admit you're terrified and completely confused on the process of stealth, so much so that now you're just projecting your fears, and telling us that it's much better to just 'partner up' with a friend to solve the issue of eb suspensions.

Pretty soon you're going to have to start to 'stealth' here if you keep that line of logic :lol:

Retailer77 02-09-2016 01:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitsu (Post 745880)
What point? That you're scared and confused on how stealth works... so much that you're going to be giving your friend 15% of your profits just to use his financial information?

A few days ago you thought cookies were the same as IPs, and you didn't even know what a windows user account was. Please stop trying to make points, or preach 'legality' issues to people who have been doing this for years, instead try to actually learn and apply yourself to stealth.

At the very least, just admit you're terrified and completely confused on the process of stealth, so much so that now you're just projecting your fears, and telling us that it's much better to just 'partner up' with a friend to solve the issue of eb suspensions.

Pretty soon you're going to have to start to 'stealth' here if you keep that line of logic :lol:


I never said I was an "expert" in stealth..and as I mentioned before I am NEW to all of this..that is besides the point.

The bottom line remains that the points I made about the docs are legit ones..and the proof is LITERALLY IN THIS THREAD if you simply look over the responses.

Mitsu 02-09-2016 01:13 AM

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eb/pp has very little in the way of proving if docs are legit or not, and as the god GoA said you can bull**** your way on the phone though most other problems... that's why people easily get around them.

What was your point again? What proof is in this thread?

Retailer77 02-09-2016 01:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 745881)
I never said I was an "expert" in stealth..and as I mentioned before I am NEW to all of this..that is besides the point.

The bottom line remains that the points I made about the docs are legit ones..and the proof is LITERALLY IN THIS THREAD if you simply look over the responses.

I am NOT a tech guy by any means and I am new to stealth yes....I admit all that with open arms.

BUT....I am simply not wrong on this point..cmon man..just look at the OP's question and look at the responses offered..its the exact issue I was mentioning in my previous thread.

The only answers the OP has gotten are...
1) Lie about how long you have been living at an address and then lie AGAIN abut your previous address and history.

OR

2) my option..go through a friend and provide ALL legit docs.

If you were ebay.... which of these three would YOU pass.. it should be pretty obvious.

Yes I understand the risks of using a friends account..but the bottom line remains that my POINT about the safest way to build a long term account that will solid and stand the test of any inquiries regarding docs is through a friend/family.

EVEN THE STEALTH GUIDE MENTIONS THIS

Mitsu 02-09-2016 01:32 AM

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At one point everyone here was comfortable on our own accounts in our own names with our house address, SSN and all that jazz and slept easy knowing we can give eb/pp our 'legit' documents anytime they're requested.

We were all at that point once, then we got suspended or had a very close call with suspension, and for better or worse, now we're here.

Stealth shouldn't be about moral 'rights or wrongs', it should be about creating security for the individual with a marketplace and payment processor who reserves to right to, and usually does, give you a suspension the first time you drop the ball. No second chances, nothing-- good bye.

Even if you end up going with your friends information, that's still a single basket for your eggs, in a harsh and unforgiving marketplace.

It's not like we're getting suspended weekly, I've only been suspended once, back in 2012, but I see the value and throw myself at stealth because I want to know my ability to make money on ebay and through paypal will be secure for years to come.

And to answer your question, 'which of these three would you pass', again eb has very little in the way of proving if documents are legit or not, and you can get around not being in a public database (the proof is in this thread.) YOU CAN BEAT THESE REQUEST WITH STEALTH DOCS.

GhostOfAmazon 02-09-2016 07:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 745883)
I am NOT a tech guy by any means and I am new to stealth yes....I admit all that with open arms.

BUT....I am simply not wrong on this point..cmon man..just look at the OP's question and look at the responses offered..its the exact issue I was mentioning in my previous thread.

The only answers the OP has gotten are...
1) Lie about how long you have been living at an address and then lie AGAIN abut your previous address and history.

OR

2) my option..go through a friend and provide ALL legit docs.

If you were ebay.... which of these three would YOU pass.. it should be pretty obvious.

Yes I understand the risks of using a friends account..but the bottom line remains that my POINT about the safest way to build a long term account that will solid and stand the test of any inquiries regarding docs is through a friend/family.

EVEN THE STEALTH GUIDE MENTIONS THIS

Bottom line:

You are clueless. You have 0 experience in using "stealth" on eBay. Your above assumptions are ALL incorrect. Period.

Furthermore, eBay VERY RARELY requests utility bills or ID's based on a phone call. UNLESS you are stuttering and "forgetting" information, like your birthday.

You need to read the forums and gain some experience before shooting from the hip all over the forum.

Best of luck.

Retailer77 02-09-2016 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 746084)
Bottom line:

You are clueless. You have 0 experience in using "stealth" on eBay. Your above assumptions are ALL incorrect. Period.

Furthermore, eBay VERY RARELY requests utility bills or ID's based on a phone call. UNLESS you are stuttering and "forgetting" information, like your birthday.

You need to read the forums and gain some experience before shooting from the hip all over the forum.

Best of luck.

When did I say ebay asks for those docs form a phone call?

Mitsu 02-09-2016 07:11 PM

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sdot10 02-09-2016 07:28 PM

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Retailer77 you really gotta read some more forum. Ill be nice because I didnt see the thread people are referencing you too but yeah you sound like a person who is scared of "ebay coming after you". Thats fine we were all scared but you shouldnt then come on spreading misinformation.

Your question of which is ebay going to prefer means nothing because ebay doesnt know the difference. Honestly there are like thousands of banks and credit unions in the US. Do you think ebay is going to know how every bank statement looks?

Its not illegal to send documents to a place like ebay. They arent a federally regulated company (banks, credit cards are) so all ebay or paypal can really do is ban you from their site. Things only get problematic if you try to use someone elses SS# which IS a federally regulated thing so that is a big NO NO.

You are getting bank accounts in your own name. If paypal deposits the money into the account thats not your fault. Again its not illegal but banks may frown upon it and thus close your account which happens sometimes.

If you think all you have to do is use your friends name and everything will be fine you are in for a surprise because even if you do everything right it might still not save you from ebay/paypal. Thats the entire reason we do stealth. Do you think this is a forum full of people who all did something wrong?

rsot 02-09-2016 09:01 PM

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Edited: wrong placement. :focus:

GreenBean 02-10-2016 05:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 746084)
Bottom line:

You are clueless. You have 0 experience in using "stealth" on eBay. Your above assumptions are ALL incorrect. Period.

Furthermore, eBay VERY RARELY requests utility bills or ID's based on a phone call. UNLESS you are stuttering and "forgetting" information, like your birthday.

You need to read the forums and gain some experience before shooting from the hip all over the forum.

Best of luck.

Bear in mind this is addressed to the same guy who let an account supposedly making $50,000 monthly go down because he trusted an ebay employee.
Claimed to be making $50,000 monthly but has no idea of tax requirements so possibily not what he protests to be....

Has paid his subscription but not activated it yet....

Reckon you should get my drift,GoA!

:doh:

GhostOfAmazon 02-10-2016 05:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 746186)
Bear in mind this is addressed to the same guy who let an account supposedly making $50,000 monthly go down because he trusted an ebay employee.
Claimed to be making $50,000 monthly but has no idea of tax requirements so possibily not what he protests to be....

Has paid his subscription but not activated it yet....

Reckon you should get my drift,GoA!

:doh:

Wow. Some people are just clueless.

Retailer: Your best bet is to read the forums. Read as much as you can. Don't rely on the guide alone---eBay and PayPal make changes VERY quickly sometimes and Aspkin doesn't always have the opportunity to update it right away. The forums are the best resource. Use them.

trg005 02-17-2016 10:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 746197)
Wow. Some people are just clueless.

Retailer: Your best bet is to read the forums. Read as much as you can. Don't rely on the guide alone---eBay and PayPal make changes VERY quickly sometimes and Aspkin doesn't always have the opportunity to update it right away. The forums are the best resource. Use them.

True dat! PayPal asked me to verify my identity...through question & answer method. One of the questions: What was your height on your 3rd Drivers License! Seriously!

newjerseymax 02-17-2016 11:02 AM

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Imagine how many times one of these reps get these calls a day? This is why they are so scripted. Its repetition over and over again. Just answer the simple questions and you both a ready to move on...

But if you truly cannot figure out how to make up info

Google f@ke name generator

http://online-generator.com/index.php

newbieblondie 02-26-2016 12:57 AM

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Has anyone ever gotten a call from unkwown number shortly after listing an item and it's Ebay ?

dicsolovag 02-26-2016 01:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newbieblondie (Post 750527)
Has anyone ever gotten a call from unkwown number shortly after listing an item and it's Ebay ?

Not me. Have you?

newbieblondie 04-24-2016 05:31 PM

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absolutely and most time turns out to be ebay quote checking in


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