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Retailer77 02-22-2016 12:06 PM

How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
There is a seller that goes by the name of "ryxxs_xxxs," he is selling all his smartphones (apple mostly) in the "New" category. His sales are very strong.
His feedback is nearly 18,000.

Here is the description for ebays "new" items:
New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging (where packaging is applicable). Packaging should be the same as what is found in a retail store, unless the item is handmade or was packaged by the manufacturer in non-retail packaging, such as an unprinted box or plastic bag. See the seller's listing for full details

When you scroll down to the sellers description it states the following:
Brand New Unused With Open Generic Box,
9/10 Condition


...not adding up

JamesNorth101 02-22-2016 12:09 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
He has 18,000 feedback

He can do a lot of things most people cannot :)

It may be that the exterior packaging is a bit damaged?

Why not go ahead and ask him if you really want to know

Retailer77 02-22-2016 12:12 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 749574)
He has 18,000 feedback

He can do a lot of things most people cannot :)

It may be that the exterior packaging is a bit damaged?

Why not go ahead and ask him if you really want to know

I called ebay and asked to investigate him.

dan_ebay 02-22-2016 12:13 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749577)
I called ebay and asked to investigate him.

wow ever heard of karma?

JamesNorth101 02-22-2016 12:14 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749577)
I called ebay and asked to investigate him.

Why.... Seems like a very strange thing to do

Retailer77 02-22-2016 12:16 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dan_ebay (Post 749578)
wow ever heard of karma?

How so?
I never gave away who I was on ebay..and I do not plan on violating ebays policy like he clearly has.

Retailer77 02-22-2016 12:17 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 749579)
Why.... Seems like a very strange thing to do

How so?
It is infuriating when you as a seller have to take razor thin margins BECAUSE you are doing things legit, and other sellers can just violate the rules and make bigger profits...how is that fair?

My call was well worthit.

MM78 02-22-2016 12:19 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749581)
How so?
I never gave away who I was on ebay..and I do not plan on violating ebays policy like he clearly has.

I sense a little bit of jealousy....

JamesNorth101 02-22-2016 12:19 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Because you don't actually know that they are doing anything wrong... Your guessing

Retailer77 02-22-2016 12:21 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 749584)
Because you don't actually know that they are doing anything wrong... Your guessing

How is it guessing?
If you read my original post its so clear....the sellers description is completely contradictory to ebays description of "new."

Retailer77 02-22-2016 12:22 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 749583)
I sense a little bit of jealousy....

lol...wouldn't YOU be pissed?

JamesNorth101 02-22-2016 12:24 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Again it may be that the box is slightly damaged. Even in retail shops you buy things that are new with slightly damaged boxes. Very few people complain because who really cares that much if a box is damaged?

Why dont you do ahead and ask the seller why they are describing it as 9/10 if it really matters that much to you. Personally I would just put effort into my own accounts

Retailer77 02-22-2016 12:27 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 749590)
Again it may be that the box is slightly damaged. Even in retail shops you buy things that are new with slightly damaged boxes. Very few people complain because who really cares that much if a box is damaged?

Why dont you do ahead and ask the seller why they are describing it as 9/10 if it really matters that much to you. Personally I would just put effort into my own accounts

Its not that the box is just slightly damaged...if it was just that I would not really care.

His description states the item is "open box"..brand new item category on ebay is "factory sealed"...plus the fact that its in a "generic box"...ebay brand new item category is in "original box"...and the fact that it states may have minor marks etc...this is OBVIOUSLY not a brand new item..

MM78 02-22-2016 12:28 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749587)
lol...wouldn't YOU be pissed?

No, I don't care what others are doing....My time is best spent focusing on my stuff.

Retailer77 02-22-2016 12:29 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 749592)
No, I don't care what others are doing....My time is best spent focusing on my stuff.

good for you

JamesNorth101 02-22-2016 12:33 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Afraid eBay are very very unlikely to do anything about this

So long as his customers are happy then they will be happy

Retailer77 02-22-2016 12:41 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 749597)
Afraid eBay are very very unlikely to do anything about this

So long as his customers are happy then they will be happy

You are probably right

realdeals 02-22-2016 12:54 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749581)
How so?
I never gave away who I was on ebay..and I do not plan on violating ebays policy like he clearly has.

I think you need to grow the f*** up.

Before taking up such a principled position.......remember you are a stealther.

If you get rattled by silly things like this then you are gonna have strokes with some of the stuff that will be waiting for you further down the line.

vetus 02-22-2016 12:58 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
The time you have taken ringing eBay, moaning on the forum, replying to others post on this thread. I could of probably made about 5-10 high limit accounts and started to let them age.

Worry about yourself. Being a jobsworth and worrying about other sellers isn't good business, whatever business you are in.........:pound: :yar:

ilcarletto 02-22-2016 01:33 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749577)
I called ebay and asked to investigate him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins#Envy

Learn from other sellers.

Focus on your business.

rsot 02-22-2016 02:00 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 749597)
Afraid eBay are very very unlikely to do anything about this

So long as his customers are happy then they will be happy

Makes perfect sense.

Surprising that you would report him OP - I would spend more time learning from that seller what works.

bjammin 02-22-2016 02:07 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
I think I would be a lil jealous and pissed about him (maybe) not following the rules. Regardless of if he has 1 feedback or 100000 feedback, he should be held to the same rules as everyone. However, I do not know that I would have called eBay about it. That seems lil ruthless.

Retailer77 02-22-2016 02:14 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by realdeals (Post 749605)
I think you need to grow the f*** up.

Before taking up such a principled position.......remember you are a stealther.

If you get rattled by silly things like this then you are gonna have strokes with some of the stuff that will be waiting for you further down the line.

f**k you
"principled position"...easy to talk when your not in such a situation.

Retailer77 02-22-2016 02:18 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bjammin (Post 749630)
I think I would be a lil jealous and pissed about him (maybe) not following the rules. Regardless of if he has 1 feedback or 100000 feedback, he should be held to the same rules as everyone. However, I do not know that I would have called eBay about it. That seems lil ruthless.

EXACTLY...HE SHOULD BE HELD TO THE SAME RULES AS EVERYONE ELSE...this is my point....thank you.

oompaloompa 02-22-2016 02:36 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749636)
EXACTLY...HE SHOULD BE HELD TO THE SAME RULES AS EVERYONE ELSE...this is my point....thank you.

he did not actually agree with you too much, but at least you found one reply you liked...start to get upset if people do not agree with you, little baby....

Retailer77 02-22-2016 02:37 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
And for all the posters saying "don't be jealous..stop moaning..little baby"...what a load of rubbish.

Why don't we all gather in a circle and sing "kumbaya" together while competitors bend the rules and push out of the marketplace...ummmm no thanks.

If there is a seller doing something against the rules I sure as hell am not gonna sit out on the sidelines and be a saint while they get away with something and I bend over backwards to be an honest seller and take a quarter of the margins....this is capitalism wake up ppl

Retailer77 02-22-2016 02:38 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oompaloompa (Post 749642)
he did not actually agree with you too much, but at least you found one reply you liked...start to get upset if people do not agree with you, little baby....

just Lol....just lol..:clap:

XTC4ME 02-22-2016 02:50 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749582)
How so?
It is infuriating when you as a seller have to take razor thin margins BECAUSE you are doing things legit, and other sellers can just violate the rules and make bigger profits...how is that fair?

My call was well worthit.

Snitches get stitches. It may have been worth it to you but when I see your numerous help threads I won't be responding with any helpful answers.

oompaloompa 02-22-2016 02:51 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
look, two shoes.....when you are stealth and you have numerous accounts, so many that you cannot even get around to using them all, you do not need to worry so much about the rules, if you bend them a bit and get away with it then fine, what is the worst that will happen, lose the account?

...........but good use of the word 'rubbish' old boy........

Retailer77 02-22-2016 02:56 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oompaloompa (Post 749647)
look, two shoes.....when you are stealth and you have numerous accounts, so many that you cannot even get around to using them all, you do not need to worry so much about the rules, if you bend them a bit and get away with it then fine, what is the worst that will happen, lose the account?

...........but good use of the word 'rubbish' old boy........

you seem to have missed the point completely

realdeals 02-22-2016 03:02 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749632)
f**k you
"principled position"...easy to talk when your not in such a situation.

Quite right. You are the only person here who has a competitor who bends the rules a little......doesn't happen to anyone else does it? :rolleyes:

Retailer77 02-22-2016 03:05 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by realdeals (Post 749651)
Quite right. You are the only person here who has a competitor who bends the rules a little......doesn't happen to anyone else does it? :rolleyes:

enlighten me

realdeals 02-22-2016 03:06 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749643)
If there is a seller doing something against the rules I sure as hell am not gonna sit out on the sidelines and be a saint while they get away with something and I bend over backwards to be an honest seller

Ummm...sorry so why are you on a stealth forum? exactly whose ebay account are you using, what address are you using, why would you feel the need to change things like i.p, what happened to your last ebay account?

So much hypocrisy coming from you and you don't even realise it.

realdeals 02-22-2016 03:09 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749653)
enlighten me

why? enlightening you seems to be one of those pointless tasks known to man.

Retailer77 02-22-2016 03:12 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by realdeals (Post 749656)
why? enlightening you seems to be one of those pointless tasks known to man.

spoken like a person who has no proof to back his statement:peace:

SilentHill 02-22-2016 03:12 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
you called ebay !!! ??? you seriously need to re evaluate your business model.

vetus 02-22-2016 03:20 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Retailer77 - you deserve to be taking a quarter of the margins purely based on the attitude portrayed in your replies to members here.

God damn, I would hate to buy from your eBay Shop. The business model and your priorities need looking at.

Instead of moaning you could easily bend the rules as well, as I keep saying 'business is business' like it or lump it ;)

oompaloompa 02-22-2016 03:23 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
reporting competitors is frowned upon here....

but if you were buyer and they treated you badly, well then you have proof, plus it is personal - then sure, getting them in trouble is an option

realdeals 02-22-2016 03:23 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer77 (Post 749658)
spoken like a person who has no proof to back his statement:peace:

Stop being a tard, tard.

EVERYBODY on this forum has from time to time issues with competitors.

Those with accounts in multiples of dozens will likewise have multiple problems.

Stop being so retarded as to thinking you are the only one with an issue, which in the eyes of vast majority of those replying to this thread, ISN'T EVEN AN ISSUE.

Retailer77 02-22-2016 03:28 PM

Re: How is this seller NOT in trouble?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vetus (Post 749662)
Retailer77 - you deserve to be taking a quarter of the margins purely based on the attitude portrayed in your replies to members here.

God damn, I would hate to buy from your eBay Shop. The business model and your priorities need looking at.

Instead of moaning you could easily bend the rules as well, as I keep saying 'business is business' like it or lump it ;)

care to explain?


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