Question about new accounts

[Retailer77]

If I purchased an account with $25,000 limit right off the bat, and I wanted to start selling to that limits max right from the start (and selling smartphones), I know I would naturally have a category selling limit.

My question is if I provide ebay with sufficient docs, can that category limit be removed if the docs pass?

I know it's recommended to start slow and build up, but I would like to just have an answer to this question.
If the docs pass, can that category limit potentially be removed right from the start?
Because from what I understand you can remove these limits even when your a new seller if you provide sufficient docs/ID.

I may be wrong on this, so thanks for any input!

[JamesNorth101]

Trying to list $25,000 of items on a new account is just a really really bad idea. Common sense should tell you that really

Category limits are removed after x number of days of selling. I have never tried to remove them with documents. Maybe well be possible, but I personally think it would be a pretty fast way to get your new account limited

[slokor]

Selling to capacity on a new account is very risky and will most likely land you with a suspended account. Doing so with the item sold being smartphones increases the probability to an even 100% of this happening.
Stealth is for the long term. You need patience and a long term plan for it to succeed. The category limit is a short term hurdle that will be done with naturally if you do things properly and start off slow and with low risk items.
As for Docs - any kind of contact with ebay is risky and could lead to problems. I myself never heard of anyone having their category limits removed by ebay but even if they are - what I said above applies. Youll attract way too much attention by doing what youre planning and youll get your account suspended.

[rsot]

Selling smartphones from the start is asking to be canned.

[phaz0rz]

Here are some problems you will face:

• Any experienced scammer who sees a brand-new seller selling a smartphone will jump at the opportunity to rip you off.
• In your hypothetical scenario you mentioned buying an account, so providing valid documentation would not be possible. The identity is fictional
• You will not be able to list more than one phone per month for the first 3 months, since you can't possibly verify your stealth identity

You seem determined to create your own new stealth method though, so go give it a shot and report back! LOL. No but seriously, start slow with low-risk stuff or you will lose the account and probably some money.

[Retailer77]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

Here are some problems you will face:

• Any experienced scammer who sees a brand-new seller selling a smartphone will jump at the opportunity to rip you off.
• In your hypothetical scenario you mentioned buying an account, so providing valid documentation would not be possible. The identity is fictional
• You will not be able to list more than one phone per month for the first 3 months, since you can't possibly verify your stealth identity

You seem determined to create your own new stealth method though, so go give it a shot and report back! LOL. No but seriously, start slow with low-risk stuff or you will lose the account and probably some money.

Thanks for the feedback phaz0rz.
What I meant was actually verifying my ID so I COULD list more than one phone per month right off the bat.....just with a little..."creativity"

[MM78]

Retailer77, you have been a member of this forum since last August, 2015....IF you would have made (hypothetically) 5-10 stealths and sold on all of them slowly.....by now....you would of had 5-10 accounts all selling with zero holds AND probably no limits on how many phones could be listed monthly. Something to think about.

[Retailer77]

Originally Posted by MM78

Retailer77, you have been a member of this forum since last August, 2015....IF you would have made (hypothetically) 5-10 stealths and sold on all of them slowly.....by now....you would of had 5-10 accounts all selling with zero holds AND probably no limits on how many phones could be listed monthly. Something to think about.

MM, I recently lost my account.
In aug 15th I had my regular account.
But thanks I understand your point.

[MM78]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

MM, I recently lost my account.
In aug 15th I had my regular account.
But thanks I understand your point.

Right, I guess what I'm trying to tell you is....work your accounts slowly, I know you hate that word....but really, start selling on your accounts. If you don't sell a thing then your never going to be where you want to be.

[Retailer77]

Originally Posted by MM78

Right, I guess what I'm trying to tell you is....work your accounts slowly, I know you hate that word....but really, start selling on your accounts. If you don't sell a thing then your never going to be where you want to be.

Absolutely, I am in the process of creating another stealth. So I will have 2 of them setup very soon.

MM, since I will be purchasing my 2nd account from the stealth shop, would you recommend I purchase a smaller one ($500 limit), or a larger one ($25,000)?
I am trying to weight the pros and cons of each one, I figure if I go with 25k limit it's nice because I will not have to call to have my monthly selling limit increased for probably 6 months since I will need to build slow anyway.

Where the $500 limit account is more affordable, however I have no idea what I can sell in the beginning that would fill up $500 worth..other than my trade (phones)..and even if I did..and it got raised to 1k the month after, I fall into th same scenario..nothing to sell that could reach this 1k mark etc etc..

So I guess in my case the 25k account is the way to go?

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

Thanks for the feedback phaz0rz.
What I meant was actually verifying my ID so I COULD list more than one phone per month right off the bat.....just with a little..."creativity"

I don't see how that could be done without stealing someone's identity. It's not as simple as submitting a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID because the ID you provide will be cross-referenced against public databases before eBay validates it. Therefore it's highly improbable that would work, and you would probably end up pee-peeing away the $300 you spent on a high-limit stealth account.

We all learn from our mistakes and unfortunately there's no way of going back in time to change things. But MM78 hit the nail on the head. If you've been a member for 6 months, you should have started aging accounts 6 months ago so you didn't go out of business with the loss of a single account. You should have known it was coming considering what you sell. Your situation could have easily been prevented if you had backups. But now that you have no accounts you aren't going to be able to take shortcuts to get back where you were. You will have to slowly build up to where you want to be - that's the only option.

[MM78]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

Absolutely, I am in the process of creating another stealth. So I will have 2 of them setup very soon.

MM, since I will be purchasing my 2nd account from the stealth shop, would you recommend I purchase a smaller one ($500 limit), or a larger one ($25,000)?
I am trying to weight the pros and cons of each one, I figure if I go with 25k limit it's nice because I will not have to call to have my monthly selling limit increased for probably 6 months since I will need to build slow anyway.

Where the $500 limit account is more affordable, however I have no idea what I can sell in the beginning that would fill up $500 worth..other than my trade (phones)..and even if I did..and it got raised to 1k the month after, I fall into th same scenario..nothing to sell that could reach this 1k mark etc etc..

So I guess in my case the 25k account is the way to go?

If you can afford the 1,000/$25,000 accounts then go with those. As far as what to sell (other than your phones)well....your gonna want to get creative in that area. What I have done is that I have a few specific items that are for making sales and feedback, meaning I don't sell these items for a "profit". Now if I make a profit then great, but these items I have are just to fill in the gaps as I sell my normal stuff.

[Retailer77]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

I don't see how that could be done without stealing someone's identity. It's not as simple as submitting a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID because the ID you provide will be cross-referenced against public databases before eBay validates it. Therefore it's highly improbable that would work, and you would probably end up pee-peeing away the $300 you spent on a high-limit stealth account.

We all learn from our mistakes and unfortunately there's no way of going back in time to change things. But MM78 hit the nail on the head. If you've been a member for 6 months, you should have started aging accounts 6 months ago so you didn't go out of business with the loss of a single account. You should have known it was coming considering what you sell. Your situation could have easily been prevented if you had backups. But now that you have no accounts you aren't going to be able to take shortcuts to get back where you were. You will have to slowly build up to where you want to be - that's the only option.

I was not aware that ebay goes into such lengths to verify photo ID because I had found many threads where people stated that they passed with fabricated photo ID easily and that ebay basically just glances at it and does not do a thorough checking. Perhaps what I read was false information though..most of this was from black hat world

[Retailer77]

Originally Posted by MM78

If you can afford the 1,000/$25,000 accounts then go with those. As far as what to sell (other than your phones)well....your gonna want to get creative in that area. What I have done is that I have a few specific items that are for making sales and feedback, meaning I don't sell these items for a "profit". Now if I make a profit then great, but these items I have are just to fill in the gaps as I sell my normal stuff.

Thanks, I think what I was trying to say was with a 25k account I do not need to sell as much as if I were starting with $500 account.
My impression is that if you start at $500 limits, you must meet those limits in order for them to increase to 1k the month after, basically you need to show ebay that you need raised limits.
But if i purchase the 25k account, I dont necessarily need to hit that $500 mark of 1k mark, if i just sell some items here and there and have my seller account with at least say 25 feedback by the itme 90 days is up, I can start listing phones in increments of $1,000 per month after 90 days have past.

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

I was not aware that ebay goes into such lengths to verify photo ID because I had found many threads where people stated that they passed with fabricated photo ID easily and that ebay basically just glances at it and does not do a thorough checking. Perhaps what I read was false information though..most of this was from black hat world

Sure, why wouldn't they?

I've heard stories like that too but never from a USA eBay user. Always from sketchy 3rd world countries where documents are easy to create.

Hell, I guess there's nothing wrong with trying it if you want. But I would definitely NOT test your theory on a $300 1000/$25000 and possibly piss away your money. Make a 5/500 for yourself and see if you can fool them with made up docs.

I sell something VERY similar to what you sell, and I've never had to do any special steps to get an account going. I know you're in a hurry but you really would benefit from taking your time and slowly building back up.

[Retailer77]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

Sure, why wouldn't they?

I've heard stories like that too but never from a USA eBay user. Always from sketchy 3rd world countries where documents are easy to create.

Hell, I guess there's nothing wrong with trying it if you want. But I would definitely NOT test your theory on a $300 1000/$25000 and possibly piss away your money. Make a 5/500 for yourself and see if you can fool them with made up docs.

I sell something VERY similar to what you sell, and I've never had to do any special steps to get an account going. I know you're in a hurry but you really would benefit from taking your time and slowly building back up.

I agree, my plan is to buy a 25k account and let it grow organically, and create another non cost stealth account myself and see if the docs pass through.

[Retailer77]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

Sure, why wouldn't they?

I've heard stories like that too but never from a USA eBay user. Always from sketchy 3rd world countries where documents are easy to create.

Hell, I guess there's nothing wrong with trying it if you want. But I would definitely NOT test your theory on a $300 1000/$25000 and possibly piss away your money. Make a 5/500 for yourself and see if you can fool them with made up docs.

I sell something VERY similar to what you sell, and I've never had to do any special steps to get an account going. I know you're in a hurry but you really would benefit from taking your time and slowly building back up.

Phazorz, if you dont mind me asking, what do you sell?
The reason I ask is because I wanted to get an idea of how long you had to wait to get to a specific selling limit and if they ever at any point asked for docs?

[two3aight1]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

Perhaps what I read was false information though..most of this was from black hat world

Dont trust those fools. They spread alot of false info over there

[SilentHill]

Your account might get suspended as quick as you bought it. You'd best not to sell smartphones right from the jump.

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

Phazorz, if you dont mind me asking, what do you sell?
The reason I ask is because I wanted to get an idea of how long you had to wait to get to a specific selling limit and if they ever at any point asked for docs?

Eye Pee Immed You.

[empirestate]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

If I purchased an account with $25,000 limit right off the bat, and I wanted to start selling to that limits max right from the start (and selling smartphones), I know I would naturally have a category selling limit.

My question is if I provide ebay with sufficient docs, can that category limit be removed if the docs pass?

I know it's recommended to start slow and build up, but I would like to just have an answer to this question.
If the docs pass, can that category limit potentially be removed right from the start?
Because from what I understand you can remove these limits even when your a new seller if you provide sufficient docs/ID.

I may be wrong on this, so thanks for any input!

You cannot be more wrong, if I were eBay, I would delete you right away.