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How to avoid EBAY fees, also how not to pay them after suspension
 

I want to dispute the seller fees for a few months back because ebay accused me of something I didn't do (abusing ebay). I want to give it to ebay since it accused me of it.

I know it's not ethical, but I want to give them a little lesson. My question is can I win this? Even for the fees a few months ago.

I don't see why not. Just call up your credit card company and file a dispute with eBay. Just say no service received for the fees you paid; like your auctions were taking down. I've seen it work in the past.

Got it. Thanks. Did you dispute fees for several months ago or just previous month?

If I file a complaint with CC I need to mention my real address, right?
Then I am afraid ebay can find me and send to collectors (I still didn't pay the last bill and I am not going to do this). I used ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info, so they can't find me now.

Ah Credit card disputes, I've only had to do it once, but it took about 2 months of fighting to get back the credit. I probably had to do 5 different faxes on BS polices and refunds, and lack of product etc. crap. Not related to eBay. For eBay it's much easier if you're using prepaid cards. EBay can't take what you don't have. And they can't track you down when your information is bogus. Would I want to be eBay? Nah, I'm not that evil.

If you use a gift card with bogus address, how can you use it if ebay suspend your account? It has different address and name than yours.

Just send a payment to yourself through Google Checkout.

Chargeback against ebay fees question
 

After faxing every known ebay fax number on google, I got back on today. Well I already had a chargeback against my ebay fees so..... I wonder what to do about the chargeback. Especially since I was able to get all non paying items put into unpaid disputes.

Do you mean you did a charge back against the fees?

Yes, I thought that was clear.

Sorry I was confused with your wording. I would just cancel the chargeback before eBay suspends the account for non-payment.

Account owes $100 in fees. eBay put it on hold but won't suspend
 

It took ebay a month of "your credit card is declined" and then sent regular "your account is on hold" emails, but they still haven't suspended the account of mine that owes them $100 in fees that I made as a test and then abandoned.

Will they ever suspend it for not paying or will they merely keep it on hold so it can't sell?

Logic tells me that they understand people have temporary money troubles. The site does say that for suspensions due to non payment, these are reinstated after payment. Its my assumption but not my experience

They want you to pay the balance, and continue buying and selling with them. It's in there interest, thus they give you time. If they suspend you right away, who's going to want to pay a balance after that?

ebay says they will go and leech the money from your paypal account, of which paypal won't let you file disputes on. If I have a linked paypal account and it's balance is 0, but it has a credit card on it will ebay get the credit card charged? Also if I beforehand remove the credit card (never had anything else) will ebay charge the card through paypal anyway? I've heard of paypal charging removed credit cards and removed bank accounts from paypal if someone has a negative balance.

Ebay will definately snatch any money that they have access to! Even if you've never paid fees from your bank account and even if you have not authorized any , EVER!
After being suspended , then 2nd account getting linked and suspended after several months....my fees were paid in full on the 2nd account..both accounts suspended indefinately and had not been used for a month...Ebay takes 110.00 outta my bank account. No Emails, no payment due emails , no thank you for the 110.00 emails! I filed an unauthorized charge and closed my bank account.! I got my money back and then started getting emails asking me to update account info, then payment due, then account suspension! I do not know what that was all about because I would not open the emails!
Never trust Ebay or Paypal to play fair!Just because you think you remove any credit card or info from those accounts doesnt mean that it's really gone!

Turn off pictures in your browser or if you use an offline mail reader, disconnect your modem then read and then what do they say?

Also if you owe fees on account 1, and they can't get them, and ebay links you to account 2 and account 2 has a working payment, will ebay suck the money owed on account 1 from account 2?

You can bet money on it!!

Modee has ebay ever linked your ebay accounts together and tried to get one account to pay the bills for another?

Hey u guys...let me tell yall somethen real funny and also let me ask has it ever happen to yall before. Ebay sent me bill to my email so I went to my account and tried to post and they asked me to put a bank account and CC on file. So I put a Prepaid CC on file with 2 bucks on there and then gave them a wachovia routing number and a random bank account info..and then they charged the bank account a pooof my fees were gone and they never emailed me again

It's not a good idea to start scamming other people with your eBay fees. Just let eBay whine about the fees, don't make other people suffer because of eBay.

How do you NOT pay eBay fees?
 

I'm going to try this out but before I do I want to make sure I got it right :) .

1) Basically when registering my seller account I add my prepaid credit card / gift card information.

2) When this has been accepted and I am selling on eBay I empty the card of funds.

3) Then when eBay charges me for their fees it will not go through. Right?

So... how long can I go without paying? Will the credit card company charge me for eBays failed withdraws?

This probably isn't the best question for the health of this forum. Check around the forum, this has been touched on in a few places.

discovered new trick (includes no pp fees til 4/08)
 

ok, so this may work for lower volume sales...

get new pp account, but just for buyers. Link it to your ebay account to pay fees. Ebay likes pp linked, make them happy.

disable checkout button.

list, say accept pp, but don't check it, check credit card. state in listing you take pp.

Go to mal's ecommerce, get free shopping cart, set up cart to take pp at your BUSINESS pp, set for express checkout.

Relogin, you will see add for free pp fees, sign up.

When listing ends, send email with checkout button. Have them checkout with your cart. Nice feature includes end of checkout return to your website!!

If you don't take pp but do merchant account, you can use that too w/ mal's ecommerce!

:D

This won't work now because of ebay's new pet, the non-performance rule. If you list and say you will accept paypal in the listing but do not allow buyers to pay with paypal, you run the risk of being reported by ebay or your competition for non-performance. And if one of your "buyers" negs you for this and your percentage drops below a certain level, you can have your account limited. Another fun time brought to you by ebay. ;) :rolleyes:

Now if you can do this for GCO too, that should work if they do definately start charging after the 1st of next year. Just don't tell too many people about it and get the word out. You know how easily they could get wind of it then and decide to do something about it.

A lot of programs 3rd party checkouts don't have api, but ebay allows you to checkout with their email checkout button (ex. vendio). I put one up, we will see!

Let us know how it goes! :)

Does anyone know if your account is put on hold for non payment of fees can you make a small payment to keep your account going? Or do you have to pay them in full?.
My account is put on hold and I don't want to pay them in full but I don't want to waste my money making a small payment if the account wont be released.
Thanks

lulu i think you have to pay atleast half if not all. :(

You have to pay what's marked as "overdue" in your balance. It will be in your invoice.

hehe sure are, I've never paid a listing fee or a final value fee @_@.

yoko your naughty lol

ebay doent diserve anything they make enough, if they keep my account active i would pay the fees, bu if they suspend it who would pay, i never paid after suspension...you cant even acess you info....what kind of bs is that...all they care about is the fees......toobad;)

Awh man, I was hoping $50.00 would keep it going for awhile. They are asking for $197.00. That's too bad it was a good account. Well I'm glad I didn't waste my gift cards on it!
Thanks everyone!

Lulu, is that the full amount or the past due amount? You'll receive notices saying X amount is due, but you are looking for the "overdue" you'll find in your invoice at the top. 30 days overdue is about right for blocking. 60 for suspension.

On each of my several accounts I had to pay the full amount invoiced as of last month to get my account off of hold. And I was only one month behind. In my pre-suspension days, I would easily go 3 to 4 months without paying.

I hear ya on that one.....again under my rapunzel_01 account I owed 667 bucks, but they suspsned me luckly I didnt pay. damn BOT.

what r u on now rapunzel_39987? lol :)

Even when I linked they still didn't get **** out of me. F them! I've had 7 maybe 8 accounts now, I was bitter over the first suspension that I didn't want to pay the *******s a dime, I've only paid on my first account, but in end owed them $5 and they suspended, I had 3 negatives and it looked bad so I didn't pay the $5. big whoop! *******s. What comes around, goes around. I don't make a living off of eBay (and I'm sorry for those of you who do), but they make living off of me (US) they can pack themselves for all I care. I can live without them.

Doing a chargeback to get out of paying EBAY fees
 

I got em those *******s. They owed me final value fees for 50 bucks on my last account and they still billed me so I charged em back the *******s YAY!!!


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