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murdered_by_ebay 07-06-2021 06:49 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
it is the wrong line of thinking to divide countries into "easier" ones and "real" ones. There are just different types of verification with different consequences.

The toughest countries have the highest verification risks but would allow to build up high quality and high volume accounts. Easier adyen countries where stealth ID may work as databases can not be checked would be considered higher risk and higher volume accounts would come under stricter scrutiny.

and finally payoneer have the weakest verification of all so that there is a second verification done by ebay and more checks will be coming along the line since these accounts will be even higher risk

muzzie 07-06-2021 06:57 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
I have lots of high volume accounts in so called high risk country, no issues.

murdered_by_ebay 07-06-2021 07:45 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 1161471)
I have lots of high volume accounts in so called high risk country, no issues.

according to your previous posts however , none of these accounts have been working on MP longer than a few weeks?

muzzie 07-06-2021 07:49 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1161478)
according to your previous posts however , none of these accounts have been working on MP longer than a few weeks?

True, but my point is that people became too lazy with Paypal, and recent change to MP shows that they are unwilling to change and look for ways to stay stealth, but just prefer to burn their real IDs.

murdered_by_ebay 07-06-2021 07:56 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
I agree that people have to do testing in different ways.however , I do not agree that they burn their real ID's and I also don't think that you have high volume accounts in a high risk country until you have withdrawn bigger amounts of money , in case of latvia it should be at least several thousand euros per account

muzzie 07-06-2021 08:16 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1161482)
I agree that people have to do testing in different ways.however , I do not agree that they burn their real ID's and I also don't think that you have high volume accounts in a high risk country until you have withdrawn bigger amounts of money , in case of latvia it should be at least several thousand euros per account

Time will show how this gonna be. All fine now as it seems...

murdered_by_ebay 07-06-2021 08:34 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
the UK verification has shown that actual checks may come with strong delays. For example when you register for business MP here they may require an ID but at the same time if you do not send it you will still be activated for MP and will be able to receive payouts , there are people receiving payouts for weeks and months despite refusing to send in the docs

Aguero 07-07-2021 04:44 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
On eBay.de it's now not possible to add IBAN in order to receive microdeposits. Similar thread shows that is not only .de issue, here WARNING EBAY LINK:

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Paymen.../td-p/31950700

PayPal isn't an option on the listings anymore. You can sell, but you can't receive payments. Sending payment request via PayPal seems like a solution, before the glitch gets resolved.

rsot 07-07-2021 04:52 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 1161587)
PayPal isn't an option on the listings anymore. You can sell, but you can't receive payments. Sending payment request via PayPal seems like a solution, before the glitch gets resolved.

Nice solution if it works and buyer accepts

Aguero 07-07-2021 05:08 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1161588)
Nice solution if it works and buyer accepts

Yes, buyers are aware of MP glitches and most of them will accept.

muzzie 07-08-2021 02:19 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
So out of 4 attempts to go for MP, 3 of them failed:
1) everything matches, but had neg 6 month ago for for inauthenticity - silent suspension
2) all good but bank name mismatch - again, silent suspension
3) all matches, matching bank, 2 yrs of perfect sales - MC113 in 2 days after listing item that never caused suspension in past 5 years! Maximum was removal, and not on that account, and happened like 2 times in5 years.

WTF is with that MP thing...

quest 07-08-2021 02:27 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 1161857)
So out of 4 attempts to go for MP, 3 of them failed:
1) everything matches, but had neg 6 month ago for for inauthenticity - silent suspension
2) all good but bank name mismatch - again, silent suspension
3) all matches, matching bank, 2 yrs of perfect sales - MC113 in 2 days after listing item that never caused suspension in past 5 years! Maximum was removal, and not on that account, and happened like 2 times in5 years.

WTF is with that MP thing...

All with creative ID/passport?

muzzie 07-08-2021 02:29 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quest (Post 1161859)
All with creative ID/passport?

Yes, all creative

quest 07-08-2021 02:34 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
During verification, do they take microdeposits back from IBAN or leave it?

muzzie 07-08-2021 02:41 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quest (Post 1161861)
During verification, do they take microdeposits back from IBAN or leave it?

The only acc with returned deps was a name mismatched one. Two others were matching, but deps were not sent back, as bank does not support direct debit.

murdered_by_ebay 07-08-2021 02:54 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 1161857)
So out of 4 attempts to go for MP, 3 of them failed:
1) everything matches, but had neg 6 month ago for for inauthenticity - silent suspension
2) all good but bank name mismatch - again, silent suspension
3) all matches, matching bank, 2 yrs of perfect sales - MC113 in 2 days after listing item that never caused suspension in past 5 years! Maximum was removal, and not on that account, and happened like 2 times in5 years.

WTF is with that MP thing...

silent suspension is only a thing if identity can not be verified , MP will not be looking into feedbacks etc.

was the MC113 sent when the account was already on MP?

muzzie 07-08-2021 03:35 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1161863)
silent suspension is only a thing if identity can not be verified , MP will not be looking into feedbacks etc.



was the MC113 sent when the account was already on MP?

That is superweird, as few accounts with absolutely same setup are either banned or accepted. So can't tell that id is not accepted and that is the main reason.

Yes, MC113 came into MP active acc.

murdered_by_ebay 07-08-2021 03:39 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 1161874)
That is superweird, as few accounts with absolutely same setup are either banned or accepted. So can't tell that id is not accepted and that is the main reason.

Yes, MC113 came into MP active acc.

they check the details through databases and suspend if no positive result received. the accepted ones probably have not been checked yet. same thing has been happening on ebay UK where some people get suspended immediately and others continue for a while

muzzie 07-08-2021 03:52 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1161878)
they check the details through databases and suspend if no positive result received. the accepted ones probably have not been checked yet. same thing has been happening on ebay UK where some people get suspended immediately and others continue for a while

I wonder what kind of database do they check, if there is no database of Latvian citizens like SSN in US or similar stuff in UK...

murdered_by_ebay 07-08-2021 04:02 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 1161886)
I wonder what kind of database do they check, if there is no database of Latvian citizens like SSN in US or similar stuff in UK...

Latvia is EU , this means EU standards. At least it means that every EU country runs credit agencies or takes in such agencies like Experian from outside

DVP1977 07-12-2021 06:04 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1160642)
you need to receive several thousand euros in total , if this goes well then you could likely continue long term

Dude, I'm selling music and merch, I hardly can get 1.5 - 2 thousand Euros per year)))

juliusv1 07-12-2021 03:35 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
My account was banned 10 days after verification.

The bay will not tell anything,

Quote:

your records and it's showing here that you've got suspended due to the activity performed in the usage of the account, this may have something to do with your information registration, buying activity, selling activity or the behaviour on the account which does not comply with eBay User Agreement.
I used my expired ID card that I updated with PS, so they do not have my real ID card.
I have no issues with paypal. So my questions is:

As I would like to be able to buy on ebay, no selling.
Do I need to take new bank, new card, new address, new IP, new email for paypal then open new ebay account with real ID card this time (or ID not required as I will be buying only).

Or can I just replace different email in my paypal (as I have no problems with them have merchant account verified etc.) and new IP address and register new ebay? Because I registered my paypal and ebay on same single email.

I should have sent them real ID, but if the company is not registered in my country and is not financial institution like bank or paypal, **** them. as aliexpress terrorist china runs fine with everything false.

samu133 07-16-2021 06:46 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 1161340)
Today received a confirmation that MPs were activated for one of the accounts that I've sent the docs for. Stealth ID, stealth matching bank - all good.

what you mean for stealth matching bank?

Crit 07-25-2021 04:43 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
I had account with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details, was using it fine for 3 years, 100% feedback no issues, then I used transferwise for MP same name, everything was fine for 14 days. I received payments for orders I was happy. Then... I received an:

MC113 Your eBay account has been permanently suspended

Sure, they will not tell you reason... MP ruined everything lately I see for many eBay users

I'm from EU, Slovakia, but I was selling in UK. So, now I need to find a way to get back on track so I can sell in the UK, so now I need ⊗⊗⊗⊗ UK details like ID statements etc... Any Idea where to get an ID and edit it if it is possible? I'm good in PS so that is not a problem. But I will be needed to see a real one id. And make sure they will accept it also. Or are they checking it somehow?

muzzie 07-25-2021 04:50 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crit (Post 1164118)
I had account with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details, was using it fine for 3 years, 100% feedback no issues, then I used transferwise for MP same name, everything was fine for 14 days. I received payments for orders I was happy. Then... I received an:

MC113 Your eBay account has been permanently suspended

Sure, they will not tell you reason... MP ruined everything lately I see for many eBay users

I'm from EU, Slovakia, but I was selling in UK. So, now I need to find a way to get back on track so I can sell in the UK, so now I need ⊗⊗⊗⊗ UK details like ID statements etc... Any Idea where to get an ID and edit it if it is possible? I'm good in PS so that is not a problem. But I will be needed to see a real one id. And make sure they will accept it also. Or are they checking it somehow?

Just avoid uk platform and migrate to .com. UK got ridiculous after MP.

murdered_by_ebay 07-25-2021 07:31 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crit (Post 1164118)
I had account with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details, was using it fine for 3 years, 100% feedback no issues, then I used transferwise for MP same name, everything was fine for 14 days. I received payments for orders I was happy. Then... I received an:

MC113 Your eBay account has been permanently suspended

Sure, they will not tell you reason... MP ruined everything lately I see for many eBay users

I'm from EU, Slovakia, but I was selling in UK. So, now I need to find a way to get back on track so I can sell in the UK, so now I need ⊗⊗⊗⊗ UK details like ID statements etc... Any Idea where to get an ID and edit it if it is possible? I'm good in PS so that is not a problem. But I will be needed to see a real one id. And make sure they will accept it also. Or are they checking it somehow?

what was the category?

simonLF 07-26-2021 03:28 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
friend,I have several stealth accounts that need to verify ID and bank statement. Do you have any way?

simonLF 07-26-2021 03:30 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
friend,Can you make verifiable bank statements?

simonLF 07-26-2021 03:32 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Friend,Can you make verifiable bank statements?

simonLF 07-26-2021 03:45 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Friend,can you make Can you make verifiable bank statements and passport?

ievar 07-26-2021 04:13 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero (Post 1154226)
BG is moving on MP im May too. Bank account or Payoneer will be the payout options, as the email states. But, nobody knows here which one will be chosen one. I wouldn't be Neo :)

Hello guys
Am new here and looking for trusted PayPal account seller or website
Plz help

rsot 07-26-2021 05:47 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ievar (Post 1164237)
Hello guys
Am new here and looking for trusted PayPal account seller or website
Plz help

Welcome to the forum OP - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:


Have you checked marketplace section?

rsot 07-26-2021 05:48 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simonLF (Post 1164234)
friend,Can you make verifiable bank statements?

Whom are you addressing?

Crit 07-26-2021 02:50 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1164130)
what was the category?

It was small kitchen appliances.

Crit 07-26-2021 02:52 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 1164119)
Just avoid uk platform and migrate to .com. UK got ridiculous after MP.

But when I register for .com , can I then sell in UK ? and ship items from UK too? I dont think so.

muzzie 07-27-2021 12:07 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crit (Post 1164305)
But when I register for .com , can I then sell in UK ? and ship items from UK too? I dont think so.

You can. Just your items will be listed as from international sellers. Or you need full uk setup.

DVP1977 08-04-2021 11:47 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quest (Post 1160541)
it seems that MP takes a closer look at some point depending on the turnover

so even if they accept your docs right now, it does not mean that you are fully verified

Yes, you're right. And I'm completely wrong.

My account has been blocked. First, I have received the letter from payments@ebay.de that is not possible to verify my documents.
Second the possibility of payouts has been frozen. Some clients tried to pay but the payments has been rejected.
Third, after several days all my listings has been deleted and my subscription to the eBay shop has been stopped.

DVP1977 08-04-2021 11:50 AM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
The most awful things here that no updated information how to set up the strong account.
Threadstarter reported that you should put the real info on the process of upgrading to MP.

But what about new account?
I guess, my old account has been completely lost.

murdered_by_ebay 08-04-2021 01:03 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DVP1977 (Post 1165234)
The most awful things here that no updated information how to set up the strong account.
Threadstarter reported that you should put the real info on the process of upgrading to MP.

But what about new account?
I guess, my old account has been completely lost.

this is because ebay do not want non-residents open accounts in other countries and especially not in the major countries. if you are from russia just register there

Aguero 08-04-2021 04:36 PM

Re: MP situation for EU accounts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1165238)
this is because ebay do not want non-residents open accounts in other countries and especially not in the major countries. if you are from russia just register there

From global to country specific online marketplace ? I dont's see why. Any seller in country with no eBay domain will be unable to sell anymore. They don't want to lose that profit. If that was the reason nobody from Eastern European countries couldn't pass successfully MP on eBay.com, eBay.de, eBay.co.uk еtc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ievar (Post 1164237)
Hello guys
Am new here and looking for trusted PayPal account seller or website
Plz help

Check the marketplace section on the forum.


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