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How come i should follow Ayden TCs if they are not on EBay site, so technically have no effect and ebay does not say "you must accept Ayden TCs in order to register on our platform"
They conceal information on purpose. In this case it looks like it is continuation of the virtual account ban

as far as I understand your LUX bank accounts are virtual accounts as well? most likely citibank because citibank have been issuing virtual accounts in LUX in large quantities and citibank is already banned in some other countries on ebay

Wise is a problem as well because it is the abused account provider #1 , there are loads of stealth accounts there

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in general I think it is necessary to use local banks only and stay away from any virtual bank accounts. It is likely that the issue here is that stealth accounts usually use virtual bank accounts that are easily assigned in quantities to almost anyone and those are frequently abused so that they are eventually blacklisted for use on ebay
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Yeap i got the same message for my two accounts. Real info,match details with Wise bank.
Yestarday at night i have upload the documents waiting for reply.
The same case, i did the microdeposit a months a go, getting funds without issues.
from what I know from a number of other sellers this type of messages comes from MP USA for various MP countries and is not based on whether you use real details , matching names , turnover made etc. but it is a mass message based solely on the type of bank account

in all cases I know of so far it was a virtual bank account issued by companies like Payoneer , Worldfirst and some others. I assume that this here is continuation of the virtual account ban which will eventually blacklist all virtual bank accounts

that is why I recommend to stay away from such accounts and replace them with local banks to avoid such issues in the future. I also recommend not to use foreign IBAN's as it is very well possible that ebay will be cracking down on EU sellers whose ebay is registered in one country and IBAN is based in another one

for now as I see they sent this message for the GBP accounts of Wise. Now would be the time to replace EUR accounts of Wise through local banks as I think this will soon come as well
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They conceal information on purpose. In this case it looks like it is continuation of the virtual account ban



as far as I understand your LUX bank accounts are virtual accounts as well? most likely citibank because citibank have been issuing virtual accounts in LUX in large quantities and citibank is already banned in some other countries on ebay



Wise is a problem as well because it is the abused account provider #1 , there are loads of stealth accounts there
It is not Citibank, but what do you mean by virtual bank accounts... still all have name on them, separate ibans... so whats the difference... no bank license?
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from what I know from a number of other sellers this type of messages comes from MP USA for various MP countries and is not based on whether you use real details , matching names , turnover made etc. but it is a mass message based solely on the type of bank account



in all cases I know of so far it was a virtual bank account issued by companies like Payoneer , Worldfirst and some others. I assume that this here is continuation of the virtual account ban which will eventually blacklist all virtual bank accounts



that is why I recommend to stay away from such accounts and replace them with local banks to avoid such issues in the future. I also recommend not to use foreign IBAN's as it is very well possible that ebay will be cracking down on EU sellers whose ebay is registered in one country and IBAN is based in another one



for now as I see they sent this message for the GBP accounts of Wise. Now would be the time to replace EUR accounts of Wise through local banks as I think this will soon come as well
Had that with the real banks as well.
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Had that with the real banks as well.
what are the names of these banks? virtual bank accounts are accounts issued in large quantities to non residents by financial companies who have agreements with banks like it was with the previous EUR accounts of Wise from the Deutsche Handelsbank which provided millions of accounts that were then distributed by Wise among their customers

I think you may be confusing "real" banks with accounts provided by real banks for mass distribution to international customers. the difference is that such accounts are easily identified by individual bank codes , in the UK it would be sort codes

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Local ones, like Swedbank. Applied for MP with real id, made up iban created in iban generator, provided creative statement and got banned. They cant really know of oban exists or not.
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Local ones, like Swedbank. Applied for MP with real id, made up iban created in iban generator, provided creative statement and got banned. They cant really know of oban exists or not.
but here you apparently mean a suspension during MP registration rather than the email you described in this thread?
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but here you apparently mean a suspension during MP registration rather than the email you described in this thread?
Any difference between kicked out during registration or during doing MP? Or acceptance to register is created to steal money?
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Any difference between kicked out during registration or during doing MP? Or acceptance to register is created to steal money?
the difference is that the criteria are not the same , the above email is likely based on bank only

the suspension during MP is most likely random
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Local ones, like Swedbank. Applied for MP with real id, made up iban created in iban generator, provided creative statement and got banned. They cant really know of oban exists or not.
Have one account with all real info linked to Swedbank, verified through microdeposits. So far it works for 1 month without issues.

Another account was with creative ID/Info and IBAN from swedbank, verified through uploading bank statement - this account was banned within a week after verification.
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Mine stealth accs worked fine for 1 month, and then got restriction. I wonder how long do they check these docs...
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They will ban all creative documents
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They will ban all creative documents
Seems they ban real ones as well if they dint like bank used
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Mine stealth accs worked fine for 1 month, and then got restriction. I wonder how long do they check these docs...
the accounts are likely toast even with real docs. this is the new policy of ebay where lots of things are forbidden but they do not disclose what in order to get people suspended easier

for that reason it is better to use local bank accounts at local banks avoiding any kind of accounts based abroad and any virtual accounts
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the accounts are likely toast even with real docs. this is the new policy of ebay where lots of things are forbidden but they do not disclose what in order to get people suspended easier



for that reason it is better to use local bank accounts at local banks avoiding any kind of accounts based abroad and any virtual accounts
Does ebay make payouts? Or ANY suspension reason = money seized?
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Does ebay make payouts? Or ANY suspension reason = money seized?
they do payouts for everyone whose identity was verified even if the account was suspended.
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they do payouts for everyone whose identity was verified even if the account was suspended.
Agreed with you, money will be kept forever
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they do payouts for everyone whose identity was verified even if the account was suspended.
Is that true that if real docs sent, one will get paid 100%? How fast do they pay out from such accs?
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Agreed with you, money will be kept forever
You also support theory that money will be released if docs are real?
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You also support theory that money will be released if docs are real?
no , if the combination of identity and residence was verified

if you just send real docs , say from Latvia and claim residence in a country where you don't really have it , this will be the same as sending stealth docs
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no , if the combination of identity and residence was verified



if you just send real docs , say from Latvia and claim residence in a country where you don't really have it , this will be the same as sending stealth docs
How can they check residency?
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