All accounts are being suspended

[fingerblast]

This is getting ridiculous. I would like to start by stating that I've been a stealther for almost 10 years now and I've never had this much trouble creating new accounts. I recently tried to create around 20 new accounts from October to December, all of which were suspended (within 1-2 hours). After researching the forum, I thought that aging the accounts was the issue. So, I created 10 new accounts at the beginning of December, and aged them all for a month; browsing and clicking items each day for 30 days. I even re-purchased the stealth guide and followed it to a T, just to have each account suspended. Clearly I'm not the only one here who is having this issue. I'm wondering why the stealth guide is seemingly obsolete now.

Here is a quick breakdown of my account creation method
-Windows 10 user account for each account (yes I've heard conflicting reports about win 10, but this shouldn't be an issue)
-Confirmed checking account and mastercard gift card for each account
-Phone number with freephoneline or Hused app
-New IP via tethering
-Fresh gmail
-Real address with real info

What am I missing here? It's absolutely ridiculous that none of this is working anymore. Any help would be appreciated.

[aspkin]

Don't use freephoneline or Hused app or any of the free phone services, they're highly abused now.

Google Voice is surprisingly still okay however.

Also, letting your accounts sit isn't a good idea.

[PepsiCoin]

Originally Posted by aspkin

Don't use freephoneline or Hused app or any of the free phone services, they're highly abused now.

Google Voice is surprisingly still okay however.

Also, letting your accounts sit isn't a good idea.

why is letting them sit a bad thing?

[yankee]

Those apps will get you closed up. You can call in and get a small limit usually still though. If you can pass database questions, you are good to go.

Pretty much most stealth accounts are going to get suspended when you list your first item and you have to call in. Just a heads up.

[fingerblast]

Originally Posted by aspkin

Don't use freephoneline or Hused app or any of the free phone services, they're highly abused now.

Google Voice is surprisingly still okay however.

Also, letting your accounts sit isn't a good idea.

I'm a little confused as Freephoneline is listed on the Stealth guideline. Are Google Voice and prepaid my only options now? Thanks for the reply.

[yankee]

if you use google voice, learn how to make it not show as google voice. a real phone is best and better if you can register the phone in the name as the account.

Still, much of the time you will list an item, get suspended and have to call in. It is how is works now.

[fingerblast]

Originally Posted by yankee

if you use google voice, learn how to make it not show as google voice. a real phone is best and better if you can register the phone in the name as the account.

Still, much of the time you will list an item, get suspended and have to call in. It is how is works now.

Each time I call in I get shut down. I'm asked for information that I don't have and cannot find. Suggestions?

[Stealth1738]

Originally Posted by fingerblast

Each time I call in I get shut down. I'm asked for information that I don't have and cannot find. Suggestions?

Start submitted doc's like drivers license for manual approval.

[fingerblast]

Originally Posted by Stealth1738

Start submitted doc's like drivers license for manual approval.

I have no idea how to do that nor is that covered in Stealth.

[Stealth1738]

Originally Posted by fingerblast

I have no idea how to do that nor is that covered in Stealth.

That's why you got to start looking for more advanced ways that aren't so public here..

[mediainspiron]

Originally Posted by Stealth1738

That's why you got to start looking for more advanced ways that aren't so public here..

lol like getting creative

[Steveo036940]

Everything is covered in the Stealth Book and the thousands of threads here.
Real phone numbers only (if it's free, it's abused)
Windows 10 leaks data between accounts (the very nature of windows 10 is designed to sync and share)

When the rules change, you must adapt or die. True in stealth and life in general. Surly you've seen changes in your 10 years of stealthing, and more are surly coming.

[Simon12]

I have the exact same issue with accounts i create

ive bought paid accounts from here and had the same issue

ive bought paid accounts from elsewhere with the sameissue

any new account i use works fine - right up until listing then its suspended within 48 hours

The last seller i purchased from then got it unsuspended for me... only for it to get suspended again 24 hours later...

I understand their reason but i have one question - surely their new practice must be affecting their none stealth genuine new sellers

[SaiJin]

I make about 10 new accounts per month as back up.
So far none has gotten suspended.
So I'm curious if it's perhaps the item you might think is low risk but end up triggering the suspension?

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by Steveo036940

Everything is covered in the Stealth Book and the thousands of threads here.
Real phone numbers only (if it's free, it's abused)
Windows 10 leaks data between accounts (the very nature of windows 10 is designed to sync and share)

When the rules change, you must adapt or die. True in stealth and life in general. Surly you've seen changes in your 10 years of stealthing, and more are surly coming.

I'm still running the old windows without updates.
Is windows 10 really that bad and you can't just switch user accounts with it?

Is there no way to set it so it doesn't share anything?

[DavidTheMillionaire]

Originally Posted by Steveo036940

Everything is covered in the Stealth Book and the thousands of threads here.
Real phone numbers only (if it's free, it's abused)
Windows 10 leaks data between accounts (the very nature of windows 10 is designed to sync and share)

When the rules change, you must adapt or die. True in stealth and life in general. Surly you've seen changes in your 10 years of stealthing, and more are surly coming.

What kind of data does windows 10 leak? Is there an example of this using a detection service on the web?

It's not Windows 10 related.

Ebay have toughened up their security, and are tracking in other ways now.

[iceman58796]

Originally Posted by just_smile

It's not Windows 10 related.

Ebay have toughened up their security, and are tracking in other ways now.

Any idea in what sort of way?

[Simon12]

It cant possibly be device tracking as i use completely seperate devices for my accounts and still end up with the same issues

Its got to be electoral roll or some kind of database check

[fingerblast]

Originally Posted by SaiJin

I make about 10 new accounts per month as back up.
So far none has gotten suspended.
So I'm curious if it's perhaps the item you might think is low risk but end up triggering the suspension?

Each time I start out selling a used book in good condition. There's no way this should trigger anything.

[fingerblast]

Originally Posted by Stealth1738

That's why you got to start looking for more advanced ways that aren't so public here..

Ok, well I'm paying for a service here. I paid for Stealth so that I could actually create new accounts and I'm not getting what I paid for. I've probably spent 20 hours searching the forum and there isn't a clear answer. Some say to age accounts while Aspkin says that we shouldn't age accounts. It's absurd that we can't come up with some sort of uniform approach here.

[Humm]

Originally Posted by fingerblast

Ok, well I'm paying for a service here. I paid for Stealth so that I could actually create new accounts and I'm not getting what I paid for. I've probably spent 20 hours searching the forum and there isn't a clear answer. Some say to age accounts while Aspkin says that we shouldn't age accounts. It's absurd that we can't come up with some sort of uniform approach here.

Well, they are sellers of stealth accounts. Ofc they are gonna say that there is nothing wrong and it's your method that is flawed lol. There is definitely something up though. I do get lucky with some accounts, eBay suspend most. Fortunately, I have other marketplaces where I sell and security is not as tight as ebay.