| |  | | | cuerva86 | 04-21-2007 12:01 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by leonid5000
(Post 2249)
if they suspend you that fast it has to be your suspended ip.. or you open too many accounts to fast on 1 ip. What's My IP? you use comcast cable ? maybe you think you changed ip but you didn't? did you clean cookie? | I am in Argentina and I use cable modem. I have 3 different network boards (not sure that's the actual name in english for it!) in my pc so that I switch the modem connection from one to the other to get different IPs very often. I keep a very detailed log of IPs so I know for a fact that everytime I log in to a new account it's with a different IP. I clean up cookies everytime I close IE.
I might have attempted opening new accounts from the same IP but no more than say 2 or 3 accounts. Does not seem like a lot plus I used to do that in the past no problem. Usually I do not open more that one account a day anyways.
My feeling is that they are monitoring new accounts way more closely, hence the delay in uploading new items. Just sharing this with you guys so that you are extra careful, just in case you know. |
| cuerva86 | 04-21-2007 12:08 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by whome
(Post 2244)
Cuerva: great summary. We need more case history like this on this board. One question on uploading pictures to ebay. The one new (and only so far) account I've tried to open I just uploaded a picture straight from my computer to ebay. Suspended in an hour. Since I did the same thing in my suspended account, do you think they could've linked me? Relatedly, what's the advantage of using photobucket or the like? | In my experience uploading pics directly from your computer should pose no risk. Or at least I don't think I have ever been suspended because of that so far. I would check every other possible reason for suspension first. I use photobucket to place html links to pics in the description so that I can have more than one picture up there and not pay ebay fees for posting extra pics. |
| cuerva86 | 04-21-2007 12:12 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Modee
(Post 2257)
IP address is the main way EBAY links to a suspended account and closes you down, although cookies are the second way.
I do not think that EBAY shuts down an account just because, say, their system notices that it has ONCE logged onto an IP address associated with a suspended account. They might take an additional step of quickly comparing the auctions from the old to new. If the goods are similar or the same, they shut you down.
Otherwise over time the list of "associated with suspended IPs" would grow enormous. As we give up an old IP it is given to someone else. I find it hard to believe that EBAY will automatically shut down anyone who logs into an account with an IP that has ever been associated with a suspended account. There must be a further control. | I agree with that 100% - |
| cuerva86 | 04-21-2007 12:20 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Modee
(Post 2259)
Cuerva, I re-upload the images I use within my html listings every time I have to create a new account, so that the exact same URL link is not used. Maybe that is how they linked you? | I think that is quite possible. I re-uploaded all the images and I will see how that goes, so far the account has been up for over 1 day. However I must have used the same images in the same photobucket account for several ebay accounts in the course of maybe a full year, yet this is the first time I get suspended with the hour of listing. Either I got really unlucky or they are checking more closely. |
| cuerva86 | 04-21-2007 03:42 PM | Update on this new twist So for the last 2 days I have been monitoring an account I opened on March 21. I listed 3 or 4 tshirts on Thursday and it took hours for the auctions to show up. I listed a few more things on Friday, just a few, I was selling total 8 items. Also, it took at least 2 hours for the auctions to be uploaded.
Today the account is one month old, the "new" icon is gone and I figured I'd give it a more serious try. I have been listing all day my regular items and ALL THE ITEMS ARE UPLOADED IMMEDIATELY, THEY SHOW UP IN THEIR SYSTEM IN MINUTES.
I am pretty sure they are placing tighter restrictions on new accounts. |
| aspkin | 04-22-2007 03:20 AM | That's good news cuerva86. EBay definitely pays more attention to new accounts then older long standing ones. Its official, eBay doesn't like people buying feedback. This includes cheap 20 cent auctions or even selling cheap auctions. It's not the way to go. I'll add a warning to the guide.
Create your account. Make sure all your information is unique! If you reuse anything from a past account, this gives eBay a way to link you. Don't list the same auctions with the same images or links, or even brands. If you brand is "Big Yellow One", then don't include this as the title of the auctions. Everything must be different. And as you know eBay pays a lot of attention to the first 30 days. Take your time, and act like a new eBayer and you'll have a better chance.
Out of all the suspensions I've gotten, and I've gotten a lot before I figured out the system, half of them were instant 'abusing eBay' suspensions. The reasons why I hypothesis was the way I listed my auctions, and what I listed. Description and titles of auctions are very important more ways then one.
You can create an account easy. But if you list the same garbage and cheat on feedbacks you're only wasting your time. You have to figure out eBay's system, and learn from your mistakes if you want to succeed. |
| aspkin | 04-25-2007 06:45 PM | Wow, the eBay suspension system got you fast! Did you forget anything when creating the account? Your cookies deleted, using different email address, your IP was changed, no linking of accounts, not using any past info, your auctions totally different? Anything? A person didn't find your account and suspend it, it was software. You gotta beat the system. If anything at all could come back to your old accounts, it will! You can't reuse any old info or auctions! |
| aspkin | 04-25-2007 07:46 PM | Listing once cent auctions might do it, but I doubt it. Which email provider did you use? Try using yahoo or gmail next time; I haven't had any problems with them when creating accounts. Listing upgrades won't do it, 3 day listings shouldn't do it, and private listings might look suspicious but shouldn't do it.
You just have to act like a new eBayer. Do what an idiot eBayer would do. Don't list too fast either. Don't look like you know what you're doing. EBay is a bitch and knows everything you do and uses it against you. But I think you may have been linked to a suspend eBay account. Your suspension happened to fast to be anything else. Take more time when creating your next account. |
| AndreasF | 04-25-2007 09:20 PM | I don't think so.
For all my accounts I am using the same password, no problems so far. |
| aspkin | 04-26-2007 08:29 AM | It's tricky Jonas. What kind of items are you selling? Are they VeRO? Did you buy feedback? How quick after creating your account did you start listing? Did you use any past images, titles or urls? What email provider did you use? You sure your cookies were gone, and your ip address changed? Was the address you used relative to where you're located? Where you IP address is located? What country do you live in? |
| x2ruff4u | 04-26-2007 03:42 PM | hmmm same here its weird, I think they implented something new, I shouldnt be getting suspended the way im doing it now. Ebay is getting smartr gona look more into this now.
Question for jonas, when do you list your items up??? Like how long do you have your new account open and then just list your item from the day you created it? |
| whome | 04-26-2007 04:45 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonas
(Post 2464)
They're just regular junk, no name brand stuff at all. Well on yahoo I started listing in about an hour. On the gookaa ones I waited. Hmmm for some reason it's not making me use a CC to confirm yahoo--maybe geotargetting passes so I can make the accounts sit.
Well I tried again...
Without listing upgrades and only one category
No Javascript being on while signed in eBay ever from the account
And I put ⊗⊗⊗⊗ merchant account info in Auctiva
Then I listed a single auction and well it's now up. What seems most logical is that eBay is banning me for raking up a huge bill in listing upgrade fees. | Jonas, couple of questions. 1.) what's the danger of javascript with ebay? 2.) do you post your listings thru auctiva? if so, is there an advantage in doing it this way? |
| bauer24 | 04-26-2007 04:47 PM | same thing happened to me. I waited about 2 weeks before i started. |
| CPUGEEK | 04-26-2007 05:08 PM | Look you can't just make an account and list right away and you also can't make an account and let it sit then list items..(Thats Susspect). Ebay assigns you a score base on your usage. if you just register and try to list , you have no score, credit..etc and thats looks bad. wouldn't you think so...
After you open an account you have to browse ebay. Browse the forum and help section and buy a few things.....
I can almost guarentee if you do that you won't get kicked off.
Please just follow these instructions and quit trying to beat the system too fast..
and also I think its the gift cards people are using. Thats what I think..
And where are you registering for ebay at? Library, home, college...etc????? |
| whome | 04-27-2007 03:02 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonas
(Post 2508)
Well I tried some new accounts and found that it appears to be I should only list one item a day (maybe two at most). It could just be related to fees and not number. Maybe listing stuff that racks up huge fees will get them banned. All the giftcards.com cards have the same first four digits (Let's not give this out on the forums in case ebay finds it) and I'm pretty sure ebay looks up the card and traces it to a bank, although it's unknown if that bank says "gift card visa" or if it just says some nondescript visa stuff.
Even if eBay doesn't flag the card as suspect, it's possible that ebay thinks "hmmm maybe someone stole a card and is using a stolen one to charge up ebay fees".
As for using it, I find buying items that start out real cheap but normally sell for high works well, except sometimes the items unfortunately end up selling at say 10 cents and then there's a $40 shipping. | How are you guys opening multiple new accounts? Do you do it on the same IP? Once I try for the second time to open an account (next week after I get dsl) I know it's gonna be hell keeping track of the IP's each time I log on. |
| CPUGEEK | 04-27-2007 10:58 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Modee
(Post 2503)
Creating an account and listing right away is fine. After all, every day people wake up and decide to join EBAY to either buy or sell stuff.
But if you try to buy feedback with cheap items first, and then sell, you will be suspended. | I disagree. I don't think you can create an account and not get suspended right away.. |
| CPUGEEK | 04-29-2007 12:50 PM | Jones,
How can you make 5 different accounts on the same day but still have different ip address for each one? |
| CPUGEEK | 04-29-2007 05:09 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonas
(Post 2630)
The listings were all real items. They were just some items (sunglasses) that I've never been able to sell.
Oh and this morning the third got NARU. They were all legit items and legit auctions.
I used dialup and it changes my IP. | Where are you located? USA? What state? Are you cleaning cookies? Use a a different email provider.. |
| leonid5000 | 04-30-2007 02:09 AM | note
most suspensions occur after you do sell something. |
| Dark Shadows | 10-12-2007 12:40 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by xCIxMonk
(Post 1668)
Maybe new accounts are expected to wait 30 days maybe before selling or maybe earn feedback through buying items before they're allowed to sell. | I think if new accounts were not allowed to list you would automatically be blocked from listing. Not suspended when you do. An example would be I started listing on an account I had for a while, and I had multiple items I was trying to sell in one auction. I can't remember what the rule was as to how many feebacks I had to have, I think it was 10. But, each time I tried to add multiple items, that area was grayed out. The ebay system blocked me from adding multiple items. Once I got the required amount of feedbacks, I could list mulitple items, but there was a limit as to how many I could list until I got my feedback even higher. So, I think if you could not list when you are new, you would be blocked from doing so all together until you got your buyer's feedback up. |
| longisland88 | 10-12-2007 10:17 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Modee
(Post 2168)
BUSTED! That EBAY account of mine was suspended today, just four days after I did that. I can't know for sure that is the reason, but I suspect. I got the generic "abusing EBAY" email.
If given the chance, I'll FAX in the docs but in the meantime onwards with my backup account, and stiffing EBAY for the fees due. Hehe!
I emailed all my customers who are awaiting shipment, to assure them I am okay. *Sigh, now I gotta redesign my listings for these same products. | I don't get it modee its like im special. Iv accessed all 6 ebay accounts and 2 paypal ones on the same computer w/o deleting cookies/changing IP. The 2 PP accounts and half of the EB accounts have the same info. 5 EB accounts and 1 PP were suspended all in the same day, but one PP and EB account have been left open for around a year now.. purposely? My paypal account now still has the same email address as one of the suspended ebay accounts. What do you think will happen in the future? im still always paranoid about being suspended anytime. |
| Rosanna | 10-12-2007 12:13 PM | Cannot sell on new account :eek: Hi, I listed one item last night on account that I created a few days ago, nothing major just kids clothes, and within one hour I was suspended. Yes, I had a new ip, cleaned cookies, cache, new info incl email and tel. WHAT GIVES? You have to wait thirty days or more to sell? I used a real address, of someone else, name of someone, and a working landline.
The account was not suspended until after the listing was placed.
Perhaps when I created new Auctiva account, and used the token to list? Or when I created a new Bidpay account and used the ebay token? I am looking to buy an account if possible, I messaged the two approved sellers on this board. Thanks guys have a great day! |
| Chris Hanson | 10-12-2007 12:38 PM | You are doing or did something wrong if you get suspended withing a hour. Was the kids clothes designer items?? |
| Rosanna | 10-12-2007 12:48 PM | 1 gymboree used jacket! Is that designer??? |
| Rosanna | 10-12-2007 04:41 PM | But as for ebay rules, it seems as if they alter them from day to day. Especially right now. |
| 2006bmr | 10-12-2007 07:47 PM | Modee so you are saying that it's not possible to keep an account for over $45 days??? i was hoping i can keep my new ebay account and keep it forever and take good care of it. please advise if ebay catches up later on. |
| Chris Hanson | 10-12-2007 11:36 PM | Its all up to you how long your account last. Most users only have a problem when linking Paypal with Ebay.
Modee accounts doesn't last because he doesn't pay his fees. |
| dakrei | 10-13-2007 08:36 PM | always the same thing I have watched this site and learned a ton, alot the hardway. But its really simple.
1 Dont take shortcuts. get a new phone# get a new checking account get a UPS address.
2 REFORMAT THE HARD DRIVE and dont get caught in an isp trap
3 When you start a new account dedicate and I mean dedicate 1 computer to this account.
4 If you are selleng VERO stop waisting your time and the rest of us who have gotten caught up in your abuses. you will continue your sad ebay existance of getting the boot. Open an online store and God bles.
almost all the questions show no reserch to get back on ebay is like making an A bomb. ALL YOUR DUCKS MUST BE IN A ROW, NO SHORTCUTS!
I know I tried. |
| 2006bmr | 10-13-2007 08:52 PM | so a UPS store box is like a PO BOX??? i heard ebay boots PO boxes, please advise if UPS box is different and if ebay boots that or not. |
| 2006bmr | 10-13-2007 08:54 PM | also to open up an ebay store you need a feedback of at least 10???? |
| longisland88 | 10-13-2007 10:53 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Modee
(Post 13458)
Maybe if what you sell is low risk, or you have not used the account to sell much, they haven't gotten around to reviewing it closely for linking yet.
Anyway, I would hardly call it a success story or claim that this disputes the fact that IP address and cookies are used to link if 5 out of 6 of your accounts were suspended. | I wasn't trying to say ebay doesn't link you with IP or cookies but was wondering if you think its likely that someone in T&S purposely chose to leave one of my accounts open for some unknown reason or to give me a break. I thought the T&S all had specific guidelines or rules they had to enforce and letting someone sell on ebay who has another account thats suspended would go against their rules. :confused: :confused: :confused: | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:59 PM. | |
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