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samueladams 04-10-2007 12:38 AM

A new twist? - problems selling w/newly registered accounts?
 
Hi great site lots to learn! So in the last day or three it seems like they'd banned the ability for newly registered members to sell. Haven't had any problems making new accounts and selling up until this past week (0 feedbacks) and bam now I'm suspended within 2 or 3 hours of putting something up. Just for fun I listed some completely innocent things. Like a robe with one and a t-shirt with a different user name (differnt everything) and same thing! Both gone within a few hours of creating the different accounts! Will they not let newly registered members sell anymore? Do we have to wait a week? Do we have to wait two weeks? etc.?

Only thing I can ascertain is I've been using different addresses etc. but all in the same general city and the name has stayed fairly constant...could my name just be blacklisted in this region? Its a very generic name btw.

Other odd thing is items I listed about 4 days ago are still up and going strong...none of this makes much sense to me unless they just implemented some changes in policy in the last 48-72 hrs.??? thanks for input!

aspkin 04-10-2007 12:52 AM

EBay does changes rules and policies often, but if you're being suspended so fast for simple listings it seems like you're being linked to old suspended accounts. I would check your account creation process and make sure you're 100% with the guide I created. Your IP address, email address, and cookies are the main things to pay attention to. Make sure these definitely different per account.

samueladams 04-10-2007 01:45 AM

I'm getting suspended and the whole "abusing ebay" garbage. Strange thing is I have a listing going off in the next 24 hrs. that is fine. Listed it 4 days back. Its only in trying to list stuff in the last 24-48 hrs. have I encountered this problem.

Perhaps if someone could try to make a new sellers account and let me know if it actually works and they can list stuff on the first day that'd be great! I think they just started something new though and it may cause some problems. Either that or they infected my pc w/some kind of tracking software recently. I have nothing of theirs on my hard drive to my knowledge though and as stated have only just encountered this problem in the last 48 hrs. No problems creating accounts up until then.

ihatebay 04-10-2007 07:45 AM

I don't seem to have a problem with listing things the day I sign up.

xCIxMonk 04-10-2007 02:41 PM

I'm actually having the same problems too. Once I create a new account and try to list something.. the account is suspended within the hour. Weird. Must be a new ebay policy. My IP is changed, I'm using a new e-mail address and a new name. Even my credit cards that I'm using have never been used on ebay.

xCIxMonk 04-10-2007 03:01 PM

I always clear my cookies when I create a new account. But lately, every single account I've made and started listing has been suspended by ebay within a few hours. I've even tried different computers at my campus and at the library but the exact same thing happens. The items are not even appearing in the search menu anymore. It's like they already planned the suspension the minute you list.

CPUGEEK 04-10-2007 03:05 PM

Ebay must of had someone that ripped them off big time recently with a new account and now there paranoid

xCIxMonk 04-10-2007 03:11 PM

At first I've tried listing CD's but I thought they may have problems with that. I then tried to sell an old magazine of mine but it also got suspended within an hour. It drove me crazy. I even tried to list a flyer I found lying around but the exact same thing happened. It seems all the suspensions were automated because it happens at about the same time, in 1 hour of auction start.

xCIxMonk 04-10-2007 03:18 PM

Hm, well I didn't post any pictures up when I listed those test auctions like the flyer and magazines. I'm not sure what's caused Ebay to become so strict. Maybe new accounts are expected to wait 30 days maybe before selling or maybe earn feedback through buying items before they're allowed to sell.

samueladams 04-10-2007 05:47 PM

Yes I've found listing anything...with newly created accounts are having problems right now. I listed a "robe" just to test them out. No image no nothing and suspended within 1 hour or so. We should try to test some things out here and figure out exactly wth is going on with new sellers not being allowed to list. I imagine it has something to do with how long we've been a member. If we could some people try creating a sellers account after 3 days and someone try after a week. It'd be insane if they weren't allowing newly registered members to list anything for 30 days!

xCIxMonk 04-10-2007 06:46 PM

Yes, I think that would be quite rediculous if we had to wait 30 days to sell, especially when eBay has been on a suspending frenzy with many accounts. I guess it's just another hurdle has in place for people eBay "suspects" is going to commit fraud.

samueladams 04-10-2007 11:34 PM

anyone notice ebay changed the look of their main page 2-3 days ago? I also noticed at this time they had fixed the system so that it forced you to offer PP or a merchant account when trying to sell. Up until a few days ago this wasn't the case. I wonder if they just started a whole bunch of new crap to make life dificult 2 days ago. I think some jackass at some ebay townhall thing had to bring this up to Cobb and he got his ass in gear. a shame. anyways hopefully we can figure this limit out soon enough so that we can deal w/it properly. *******s!

CPUGEEK 04-12-2007 11:19 AM

I'm still waiting for an answer

samueladams 04-12-2007 11:42 AM

its trial and error right now...i've got some names sitting that i'll try selling with after 7 days...why don't you guys try listing after 48 hrs. w/0 fb and let us know what you find out. I could see them not wanting someone immediately registered to try listing so try 24 hr. and 48 hrs. and let us know what you find out. I'm trying a couple variants w/7 days. 0 fb no bidding...0 fb w/bidding on stuff...a few fb from small items. I'll know more in 4 more days.

CPUGEEK 04-13-2007 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samueladams (Post 1768)
its trial and error right now...i've got some names sitting that i'll try selling with after 7 days...why don't you guys try listing after 48 hrs. w/0 fb and let us know what you find out. I could see them not wanting someone immediately registered to try listing so try 24 hr. and 48 hrs. and let us know what you find out. I'm trying a couple variants w/7 days. 0 fb no bidding...0 fb w/bidding on stuff...a few fb from small items. I'll know more in 4 more days.

quit being cheap and buy regular 5 or 10 dollar items. Then just resell them back on ebay

samueladams 04-13-2007 12:58 PM

yeah I don't wanna waste my time with that...buying and selling a bunch of crap just so I can sell a few things is too much work.

ihatebay 04-13-2007 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modee (Post 1662)
If you are creating a new account (new name, address, credit card), on a new IP address, on a new computer that has not been used to create a suspended account, then there is no way for EBAY to shut you down based on a previously suspended account.

There must be some other issue. What are you selling? Is it so unique that EBAY links you that way? Or is it something EBAY does not want sold?

Gallery images?

Modee, you don't have to buy a new computer do ya?!!!! I am doing to go broke. I hope you are just kidding....

CPUGEEK 04-14-2007 10:37 AM

Didi anyone ever figure out ebay new rule?

xCIxMonk 04-16-2007 03:49 PM

Well so far, I've tested one day and three days wait. Both got me suspended relatively quickly.

CPUGEEK 04-16-2007 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xCIxMonk (Post 1990)
Well so far, I've tested one day and three days wait. Both got me suspended relatively quickly.


How old was the account? Was it a new account? did you have any feedback? Where are you located? Did you offer paypal or an merchant account?

CPUGEEK 04-16-2007 05:20 PM

anyone having problems with selling on new accounts?
 
Just wondering if anyone is having a problem selling on new accounts without getting suspended..?

leonid5000 04-16-2007 05:39 PM

i have 3 accounts and all 0 feedbacks and i have posted staff on them is been more then 7 days .. i don't know nothing sold on the new ones because no feedbacks .. there culd be a problem once something sells i don't know.. may be they only look once it sells?

CPUGEEK 04-16-2007 06:19 PM

Leonid
no they were saying that there were suspended right away.. How old was the accounts before you started selling and when was they created Leonid?

leonid5000 04-16-2007 07:10 PM

i create all of my 3 accounts like 8 days ago... 3accounts with different ip. and i post after i open them. They are ok now .
how to know if you were suspended for feedbacks or for being suspended user before? easy .. if you don't get suspended in 7 day that means they don't know unless then you make mistake like buying feedback or some other mistake. if i register with my suspended ip next day in the morning when they come to work my account is suspended.(every time in the past)

another way to tell if you are suspended for buying feedbucks or for being suspendet before is:
When they don't know is you and suspend you for feedbacks is when they suspend you and cancel actions wich you received feedbacks for , but they don't cancel your sold items nor do they send threatening emails to your buyers.. i know because my buyers told me that

CPUGEEK 04-17-2007 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonas (Post 2018)
I tried it, too. I had ten feedback and put the item up in the evening after the account had been five days old. The account was cancelled at 2am for "abusing ebay". I think it's some automated bot system.

Did you offer paypal or an merchant account? And did you get your feedback thru penny auctions and ebooks?

What is the user id? Since is cancelled I'm pretty sure you wont mind giving it up?

CPUGEEK 04-17-2007 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonas (Post 2028)
I offered paypal. I also bumped the feedback both with low auctions (like 20 cents, not 1 cents) and then had some shills (the shills had at least 5 feedbacks on average) via proxies and Tor (each shill had a different web browser message, too) bump it up to 10. Everything in the auction was new and different than what I'd done before so they couldn't link me.

I then decided I'm adding any CCs to my accounts and just bumping feedbacks with penny auctions. So I find that every single one of them has buying limits on them no matter what I bid on. This is odd because I've only seen buying limits when I've made accounts through proxies eBay doesn't like. So I make ⊗⊗⊗⊗ paypal accounts to link and still they are stuck on buying limits--which this used to get past buying limit. I have dialup and may IP has always changed when making each account.

So I guess I'll have to make hundreds of accounts and let them all sit for months.

I think ebay is just ****listing any new accounts.

No wonder your getting suspended..Quit buying penny and .20 cent auctins. Thats why your getting ****listed.

And quit using proxies..Just do it the right way and earn your feedback..

CPUGEEK 04-17-2007 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonas (Post 2036)
Okay it seems not all have buying limits on them. I also find that the geotargetting thing tends to make things bad, but geotargetting doesn't make the account unusable it if it's too far away.

where are you located?

xCIxMonk 04-17-2007 03:09 PM

Can't be only the ones who've tried to buy penny auctions and so forth. I've tried listing with 0 feedback and I still get suspended. I heard stories about how people are able to list right away after creating an account but it doesn't seem to be working for me.

CPUGEEK 04-17-2007 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modee (Post 2072)
Jonas, if you keep following those ideas you will be suspended time and again.

Thank you Modee. Thats what I'm saying..Quit scamming to get feedback.. Make a new account , browse ebay for about a few days or so and place a few bids here and there, then list something for sell.

leonid5000 04-17-2007 06:11 PM

i found something interesting about 1p feedbacks
i have tested on 2 of my new 0 f accounts
what i do is i post and then i buy 4 feedbacks and im ok
it looks like ebay system flags only if you go over 9f because i have tested in the past
... i had posted and got 8 free feedbacks that i got in 1day and then i have been selling for 2days but no it wasn't inaff for me and i went and got 2 more and next day suspended.

CPUGEEK 04-17-2007 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonid5000 (Post 2079)
i found something interesting about 1p feedbacks
i have tested on 2 of my new 0 f accounts
what i do is i post and then i buy 4 feedbacks and im ok
it looks like ebay system flags only if you go over 9f because i have tested in the past
... i had posted and got 8 free feedbacks that i got in 1day and then i have been selling for 2days but no it wasn't inaff for me and i went and got 2 more and next day suspended.

Can you please clarify that. Leonid

leonid5000 04-17-2007 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modee (Post 2087)
I think what he is saying is that buying the feedbacks is not the issue, it's when you try to sell with phony feedback that you get suspended. Anyway, whether that is what he means or not, that is the case as far as I know.

He is also saying that if you buy less than ten feedbacks you won't get suspended at all, but i disagree with that statement.

yes i think that if you buy less then 10 you will be ok . im testing this thing with feedbacks... lets test and ill emanate the problem one by one

leonid5000 04-17-2007 10:03 PM

A year ago i was doing some crazy staff but today it is all different.. i was buying 1p feedbacks for 4years never had problems but now they have new security program working. go ahead and buy 200 1pany feedbacks today and see what happens

CPUGEEK 04-18-2007 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonid5000 (Post 2092)
yes i think that if you buy less then 10 you will be ok . im testing this thing with feedbacks... lets test and ill emanate the problem one by one

Not true.. I disagree with that as well. Why don't you all just earn feedback?

leonid5000 04-18-2007 02:15 AM

well if you are not going to do a test you will never know .. i have tested and know from my experience that with couple of 1p feedbacks you will not get suspended. I suspect that only after certain number of feedbacks their software will be triggered. earning feedback (form buyers) form 0 takes too long for my product. But with 2 feedbacks i start making 3k week.. if i had to wait for week i would lose lots of $ ... and i do not except pay pal therefore no one will bid on my stuff with 0 feedbacks ,, so i buy couple of low price items .. it depends what product you sell for what price and what payment you except

whome 04-18-2007 11:31 PM

Is it best to remove all suspended email accounts from paypal before opening a new ebay account to reduce the chances of getting linked? Or does it not matter .. other than just adding a completely new one to paypal?

CPUGEEK 04-19-2007 08:01 PM

I co-sign that Modee

cuerva86 04-21-2007 12:21 AM

My 2 cents
 
I just had 3 accounts suspended in the last few days, since they changed the page outlook actually. As usual there was nothing linking the accounts, I changed IPs, registration info, nicks, you know the works. Yet the first one (opened on 01/21) was down within hours of the first listing. I figured I screwed up somehow and they managed to link me to an old one.
Next day I try again (account opened on 03/19) I list tshirts and safe stuff. I get and FPA notice within hours.
Third account, opened on 03/29 same thing.
I tried a new one yesterday and it's been up for 1 day now, although it is taking noticeable longer for them to upload the auctions. The only thing I did differently with the one that is still up is I opened a new photobucket account to host my pics.
So my thoughts: First account went down because it was linked to a suspended one but I got caught surprisingly fast, like there is some kind of new control system in place. Second account went down because I listed 20 items on an account less than one month old. Seems like a new thing to me, I used to be able to do that no problem. Third account was also less than one month old, I am pretty sure that is the key thing. The account that still works will be more than one month old tomorrow so I think it will be safer to list more stuff in it now. By the way I do not buy ebooks or feeds so that did not flag any alert in my case.
Anyways, just thought I might share that with you guys.

whome 04-21-2007 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuerva86 (Post 2241)
...I tried a new one yesterday and it's been up for 1 day now, although it is taking noticeable longer for them to upload the auctions. The only thing I did differently with the one that is still up is I opened a new photobucket account to host my pics.
....

Cuerva: great summary. We need more case history like this on this board. One question on uploading pictures to ebay. The one new (and only so far) account I've tried to open I just uploaded a picture straight from my computer to ebay. Suspended in an hour. Since I did the same thing in my suspended account, do you think they could've linked me? Relatedly, what's the advantage of using photobucket or the like?

leonid5000 04-21-2007 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuerva86 (Post 2241)
I just had 3 accounts suspended in the last few days, since they changed the page outlook actually. As usual there was nothing linking the accounts, I changed IPs, registration info, nicks, you know the works. Yet the first one (opened on 01/21) was down within hours of the first listing. I figured I screwed up somehow and they managed to link me to an old one.
Next day I try again (account opened on 03/19) I list tshirts and safe stuff. I get and FPA notice within hours.
Third account, opened on 03/29 same thing.
I tried a new one yesterday and it's been up for 1 day now, although it is taking noticeable longer for them to upload the auctions. The only thing I did differently with the one that is still up is I opened a new photobucket account to host my pics.
So my thoughts: First account went down because it was linked to a suspended one but I got caught surprisingly fast, like there is some kind of new control system in place. Second account went down because I listed 20 items on an account less than one month old. Seems like a new thing to me, I used to be able to do that no problem. Third account was also less than one month old, I am pretty sure that is the key thing. The account that still works will be more than one month old tomorrow so I think it will be safer to list more stuff in it now. By the way I do not buy ebooks or feeds so that did not flag any alert in my case.
Anyways, just thought I might share that with you guys.


if they suspend you that fast it has to be your suspended ip.. or you open too many accounts to fast on 1 ip.
What's My IP? you use comcast cable ? maybe you think you changed ip but you didn't? did you clean cookie?


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