| | | Mr2005 | 01-11-2013 02:34 AM | i just got a mc999 |
| GreenBean | 01-11-2013 05:28 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Laritha
(Post 409418)
I've noticed MC999s that result in being restricted forever. No ID request, no call ins, just forever banned. I think those "spam calls" are actually eBay checking your phone number. Also, I think the system has been updated to something more advance since early December. | Might be what happens to you.
Not happened with my USA accounts |
Mr2005 - how soon after creation? after beginning to sell? which category? |
| Mr2005 | 01-12-2013 12:42 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 409603)
Mr2005 - how soon after creation? after beginning to sell? which category? | account was a month old. i had and item up for 3 days then it hit. men fashion accessories |
| mastaflappa | 01-12-2013 12:56 AM | I get mc999 sometimes 1 or 2 out of 10 and sometimes not at all, and all my accounts start off with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ addresses, no vba, just vcc and a phone number that expires in a month which I never answer anyway. The small few that do get mc999 I don't even bother calling, I just save the paypal for later use. |
| Mr2005 | 01-12-2013 03:20 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by mastaflappa
(Post 409827)
I get mc999 sometimes 1 or 2 out of 10 and sometimes not at all, and all my accounts start off with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ addresses, no vba, just vcc and a phone number that expires in a month which I never answer anyway. The small few that do get mc999 I don't even bother calling, I just save the paypal for later use. | when you say ⊗ ⊗ ⊗ ⊗ address, do you mean totally pulled out of the aire or do just claim another address as your own. I assume ebay could check with google maps or something. |
| Mr2005 | 01-12-2013 03:21 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by mastaflappa
(Post 409827)
I get mc999 sometimes 1 or 2 out of 10 and sometimes not at all, and all my accounts start off with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ addresses, no vba, just vcc and a phone number that expires in a month which I never answer anyway. The small few that do get mc999 I don't even bother calling, I just save the paypal for later use. | also what your process on new accounts, do start selling right away? do you build up fb through buying? |
| mastaflappa | 01-12-2013 03:39 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr2005
(Post 409854)
when you say ⊗ ⊗ ⊗ ⊗ address, do you mean totally pulled out of the aire or do just claim another address as your own. I assume ebay could check with google maps or something. | ⊗⊗⊗⊗ as in non existent and sure they could use google maps but they don't on mine because mine last months and months and months with no real address and no real phone # and I start off selling right away with 0 fb,
But that doesn't mean it's not better to start off with a real address, real phone # and build some fb first.
That's just the way I do it, I don't care if it get's suspended since I've got over 100 accounts and plenty of cash so they can suspend me all they want and I could care less.
But they don't, that's the point I was trying to make. |
| Sandy D | 01-14-2013 09:11 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr2005
(Post 409855)
also what your process on new accounts, do start selling write away? do you build up fb through buying? | The FB buying is not always a better choice.
I have tested it and seems to be not worth it to me.
I test all the time.
I built and account a while back to test an idea.
List a new pricy item and see what happens, got the MC999.
Called and told them I listed it wrong, it was used and not new.
No questions asked, told me if I changed the info to used and item would be ok to sell.
Again proving my point, best way to sell on a new account is sell yard sale junk right off the bat.
And I never sell an item for a week or more after making the account.
Make an account and sell within the hour you can say good bye in most cases. |
| Schooly D | 01-14-2013 07:47 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 410529)
The FB buying is not always a better choice.
I have tested it and seems to be not worth it to me.
I test all the time.
I built and account a while back to test an idea.
List a new pricy item and see what happens, got the MC999.
Called and told them I listed it wrong, it was used and not new.
No questions asked, told me if I changed the info to used and item would be ok to sell.
Again proving my point, best way to sell on a new account is sell yard sale junk right off the bat.
And I never sell an item for a week or more after making the account.
Make an account and sell within the hour you can say good bye in most cases. | I like your style, my question is about listing an item right away. Just made a new account and I was going to list a few small things like xbox games and dvds.. maybe like 5 auctions to start off. I read here somewhere that most ebay users actually start selling at least one item right away., right after signing up, which makes sense when you picture the average consumer after seeing an ebay app commercial or something.
It seems to register and leave for a week or more would be a little fishy from their point of view.. or maybe not , its probably all automated and maybe one gets flagged for listing right away, trying to rush things. hmm what to do |
I think the trick is to make your accounts look real. So far I've been signing up, browsing, buy a few items every few days, using it like a real ebay newb probably would. I wait about 1.5-2 weeks then I list my first item.
So far it's been working out great, but it could also be a coincidence. Even if you make your account look real, I still don't think it means you're mc999 safe, it's a luck thing I'm sure. |
| Schooly D | 01-14-2013 11:43 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by css1
(Post 410650)
I think the trick is to make your accounts look real. So far I've been signing up, browsing, buy a few items every few days, using it like a real ebay newb probably would. I wait about 1.5-2 weeks then I list my first item.
So far it's been working out great, but it could also be a coincidence. Even if you make your account look real, I still don't think it means you're mc999 safe, it's a luck thing I'm sure. | I think I agree, I wont list right away.. did you open your sellers account and put in all your information right when you first signed up and then waited your 2 weeks? Or did you create the seller account part of signing up after the 2 weeks and sold immediately after? |
| 3dfuzion | 01-14-2013 11:57 PM | I was hit with this but the funny thing was is that it was only in regards to me opening disputes/claims on eBay from crappy ebot sellers. eBot was only trying to look after me has a buyer. The email had nothing to do with my account or what i was selling. So far so good in terms of selling. I'm just waiting for the retarded Paybo holds to go away and once that's done then happy sailing for awhile. You know about the phone number, get a crappy phone service provider like Cricket or MetroPCS you can change the phone number for $5.00 to match the phone number records on eBot and Paybot. I don't care about iPhones or their related jacked up fees plus making changes will cost you more so get a crappy phone service if you need to use ebot/paybot accounts and having problems. |
| fingerblast | 01-15-2013 12:33 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr2005
(Post 409361)
When they don't find anything in the public database, is it an automatic restriction?
When you call in to have your limits raised, do they also try to pull the public data base. | Yes of course they pull from the public database. Moreover, I have not found that they are being any less strict now that the holidays are over. I called about one new account that was recently brought from 10/1000 to 5/500 and the jerk on the phone told me that this was the new policy and that it may take 3 months just to get one limit increase. Needless to say, I was more than annoyed. |
| Sandy D | 01-15-2013 05:31 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Schooly D
(Post 410647)
I like your style, my question is about listing an item right away. Just made a new account and I was going to list a few small things like xbox games and dvds.. maybe like 5 auctions to start off. I read here somewhere that most ebay users actually start selling at least one item right away., right after signing up, which makes sense when you picture the average consumer after seeing an ebay app commercial or something.
It seems to register and leave for a week or more would be a little fishy from their point of view.. or maybe not , its probably all automated and maybe one gets flagged for listing right away, trying to rush things. hmm what to do | You have to get your accounts and pp confirmed first so you cannot list right away.
And listing X box and games first is a huge risk.
Sell items before you confirm your accounts is not good and selling risky in electronics is a 90% chance of red flags everywhere.
I have accounts 3-5 months old and just listed my first item. My limits are 20/1500 30/2000 etc. when most get 100/1000 or less on new accounts. |
| Sandy D | 01-15-2013 05:33 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by css1
(Post 410650)
I think the trick is to make your accounts look real. So far I've been signing up, browsing, buy a few items every few days, using it like a real ebay newb probably would. I wait about 1.5-2 weeks then I list my first item.
So far it's been working out great, but it could also be a coincidence. Even if you make your account look real, I still don't think it means you're mc999 safe, it's a luck thing I'm sure. | I agree.
NO EBAY NEWBIE starts and account and sells on it right away.
Any newbie would not know how to list something that quickly.
Not for me. In my experience of 4 years and 500 accounts waiting a bit is why I dont lose accounts I believe.
And I always sell yard sale crap as my first items and never electronics. |
| illpkuras | 01-15-2013 06:03 PM | I received an mc999, selling and buying restriction today. I thought the account was doomed but decided to call anyways. I was asked questions about where I live and was told I would get public records questions but that didn't work, they were trying to phase me using repeated questions but I didn't flinch and was re instated. The account was less than a month old and was selling, Mc999 doesn't mean your doomed just call. |
| bluegrass1 | 01-15-2013 06:40 PM | is it safe to call from another phone that is linked to another account ? my home number is connected to my real account I want to call about a stealth account I called before using *67 that blocks your number and then when i called it said I see ur calling from then told me my hidden number so i just hung up before telling them which account i was calling about can they link you this way I was oing to go to a pay phone but wow they dont have many of those left anywhere !! |
I wouldn't do it. I've been asked what number I was calling from before so my guess is that type of stuff is logged. If they bother with beacons in emails, this is definitely something they would bother with. |
| Sandy D | 01-15-2013 07:35 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by bluegrass1
(Post 410960)
is it safe to call from another phone that is linked to another account ? my home number is connected to my real account I want to call about a stealth account I called before using *67 that blocks your number and then when i called it said I see ur calling from then told me my hidden number so i just hung up before telling them which account i was calling about can they link you this way I was oing to go to a pay phone but wow they dont have many of those left anywhere !! | Use a phone only associated with that account. |
| Sandy D | 01-15-2013 07:35 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by illpkuras
(Post 410955)
I received an mc999, selling and buying restriction today. I thought the account was doomed but decided to call anyways. I was asked questions about where I live and was told I would get public records questions but that didn't work, they were trying to phase me using repeated questions but I didn't flinch and was re instated. The account was less than a month old and was selling, Mc999 doesn't mean your doomed just call. | Awesome!
Good job. |
| Packattack12 | 01-15-2013 07:35 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by bluegrass1
(Post 410960)
is it safe to call from another phone that is linked to another account ? my home number is connected to my real account I want to call about a stealth account I called before using *67 that blocks your number and then when i called it said I see ur calling from then told me my hidden number so i just hung up before telling them which account i was calling about can they link you this way I was oing to go to a pay phone but wow they dont have many of those left anywhere !! | Yeah *67 doesn't work when calling 1-800 numbers. |
| Mr2005 | 01-15-2013 10:36 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Packattack12
(Post 410983)
Yeah *67 doesn't work when calling 1-800 numbers. | really, why would it not work? |
| fingerblast | 01-15-2013 11:39 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr2005
(Post 411051)
really, why would it not work? | Why would it work? All of us constantly talk about using virtual numbers etc. |
| mastaflappa | 01-16-2013 01:15 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Schooly D
(Post 410647)
I like your style, my question is about listing an item right away. Just made a new account and I was going to list a few small things like xbox games and dvds.. maybe like 5 auctions to start off. I read here somewhere that most ebay users actually start selling at least one item right away., right after signing up, which makes sense when you picture the average consumer after seeing an ebay app commercial or something.
It seems to register and leave for a week or more would be a little fishy from their point of view.. or maybe not , its probably all automated and maybe one gets flagged for listing right away, trying to rush things. hmm what to do | You're right, most new ebayers do list right away like me, after turning it into a seller that is.
I usually have plenty of sleepers but always list an item when turning it into a seller.
It's usually always a brand new item like a cd, dvd or video game using ebay's product catalog description and stock photo,
and I rarely get mc999. |
| zoneout | 01-16-2013 02:10 AM | so from what i gather from masta and sandy aged buyer accounts do not get mc999 even if something is listed immediately after turning it into seller acct. wonder what the magic aging is.... 3 months? |
| zoneout | 01-16-2013 02:15 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 410946)
I have accounts 3-5 months old and just listed my first item. My limits are 20/1500 30/2000 etc. when most get 100/1000 or less on new accounts. | Sandy, this contradicts the general consensus here that you have to max out your selling limit every month in order to get increases starting in month 3.
Are you sure about that? If so it is good news for a change. |
| slapped | 01-16-2013 02:30 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by zoneout
(Post 408055)
Seems like eb stopped doling out automatic mc999s. Anybody get one last 3 days? | Yea I got one Today,,,Hard as hell,,,They even asked what color my 2003 Ford Escape was,,I passed though,,,not sure how,,,but I did |
| mastaflappa | 01-16-2013 02:55 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by zoneout
(Post 411151)
so from what i gather from masta and sandy aged buyer accounts do not get mc999 even if something is listed immediately after turning it into seller acct. wonder what the magic aging is.... 3 months? | No even on new accounts less than a week old I sell band new dvds on 10 accounts at a time, at the most I get 1-3 mc999 and sometimes not even 1 out of 10 and that's a fact not heresay which you'll here alot of around here.
One thing you'll find in common around here is you'll here alot of people talk about what they heard alot of people said from what they heard other people said,
that doesn't fly too well, I usually only talk about what I actually did and the results that came from it, the ones that worked, that's something you can put your trust in. |
| Roscoe | 01-16-2013 03:05 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr2005
(Post 411051)
really, why would it not work? | It's name is "Call Capture." Many companies use it, especially finanacial companies. |
| zoneout | 01-16-2013 04:09 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by mastaflappa
(Post 411164)
No even on new accounts less than a week old I sell band new dvds on 10 accounts at a time, at the most I get 1-3 mc999 and sometimes not even 1 out of 10 and that's a fact not heresay which you'll here alot of around here.
One thing you'll find in common around here is you'll here alot of people talk about what they heard alot of people said from what they heard other people said,
that doesn't fly too well, I usually only talk about what I actually did and the results that came from it, the ones that worked, that's something you can put your trust in. | I`m just trying to come up with the common denominator for what triggers these mc999 verify new acct. I believe your experiences - it just seems hard to conceive that these notices are blind luck (or lack thereof). |
| balzac | 01-16-2013 10:28 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by slapped
(Post 411158)
Yea I got one Today,,,Hard as hell,,,They even asked what color my 2003 Ford Escape was,,I passed though,,,not sure how,,,but I did | Well I noticed that too that sometimes you can say whatever you want and pass through. Sometimes I think that they haven't all details what they are asking for. The main point is no doubt when answering, I guess. |
| turkeyhunt | 01-16-2013 10:40 AM | Hmmm.... I really do think its up to chance bc so much depends on the rep you get at ebay when you call. For example. I had several stealths receive mc999 so I called.
Stealth 1: Called, the rep was super nice, asked me some questions, passed it, automatically reinstated and increased my selling limit to 100/5000 without me asking
Stealth 2: Called, rep was polite, asked questions, passed, reinstated. then increased my selling to 50/3500 without me asking
stealth 3: called, rep was just monotone , asked questions, passed, reinstated. DID Not lift limits ( i acted new and asked what the process was to increase) said I needed 3 months of selling, 25 positive fb, and good selling history.....
.....so if thats the case, then the other two shouldnt have lifted my limits right.. ? like i said, its up to the rep what they do. They have the control on you account.
Stealth 4: called and failed questions. asked to fax doc. so i hung up and called it a loss. I dont do paperwork..
Stealth 5 : didn't receive mc999. had selling limit 10/1000
Keep in mind I was testing a theory of mine on ebay so I made all 5 stealths and turned into seller same day. Then listed the next day...just to see what would happen. And those were my personal results.
Interesting how much power ebay has.... and their rules aren't set in stone neither. |
| balzac | 01-17-2013 05:33 AM | turkeyhunt, it's great! Saddly, I still didn't get any increases of selling limits. Hope to get some. |
| Toolman89 | 01-17-2013 05:57 AM | so what did you do differently with Stealth 5? |
| turkeyhunt | 01-17-2013 09:51 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolman89
(Post 411455)
so what did you do differently with Stealth 5? | THats the thing. When I made them, I purposely made them all the same so I could test whether It depended on how soon I started selling etc. I made em the same, browsed the same amount of time. Made into sellers in same time frame on same day. So I am not sure what the difference was.
Not that I mind, bc I tend to be good at the answering questions so to get the limits increased. |
| slapped | 01-17-2013 10:24 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by turkeyhunt
(Post 411482)
THats the thing. When I made them, I purposely made them all the same so I could test whether It depended on how soon I started selling etc. I made em the same, browsed the same amount of time. Made into sellers in same time frame on same day. So I am not sure what the difference was.
Not that I mind, bc I tend to be good at the answering questions so to get the limits increased. |
There is NO difference. a LOT of Users here simply do not understand that this is completely RANDOM, it is a SIMPLE numbers game, Ebay has a SPECIFIC Number of employees at their call centers around the world that deal with Idenity Verification, that number of employees can only process a SPECIFIC number of accounts, anything more than that will not get an MC999.
Its really that simple.
Many Users here are looking for some sort of "magic formula" that as long as they follow it it will work. That formula does NOT exist.
Here is you BEST formula: Prepare your accounts as BEST you can, and if you get hit with an MC99 have as much information as you possible can available at your fingertips, and be as "elusive" as possible with those questions that you cannot anwser, and hope for the best
Believe me if Ebay could afford to, EVERY account would get an MC999 Verification |
| mastaflappa | 01-17-2013 06:50 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by zoneout
(Post 411170)
I`m just trying to come up with the common denominator for what triggers these mc999 verify new acct. I believe your experiences - it just seems hard to conceive that these notices are blind luck (or lack thereof). | It has more to do with what you sell, I've sold on 10 accounts at a time many times, it's only when I sell low risk items, that I get 1-3 mc999 and sometmes 0 out of 10,
but when I sell an item known for being bootlegged, like say disney dvds then almost all of them get mc999, either way these are all on accounts with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ addresses and I list straight off with 0 fb. |
| fingerblast | 01-17-2013 07:09 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by slapped
(Post 411488)
There is NO difference. a LOT of Users here simply do not understand that this is completely RANDOM, it is a SIMPLE numbers game, Ebay has a SPECIFIC Number of employees at their call centers around the world that deal with Idenity Verification, that number of employees can only process a SPECIFIC number of accounts, anything more than that will not get an MC999.
Its really that simple.
Many Users here are looking for some sort of "magic formula" that as long as they follow it it will work. That formula does NOT exist.
Here is you BEST formula: Prepare your accounts as BEST you can, and if you get hit with an MC99 have as much information as you possible can available at your fingertips, and be as "elusive" as possible with those questions that you cannot anwser, and hope for the best
Believe me if Ebay could afford to, EVERY account would get an MC999 Verification | Indeed. They could absolutely care less about their sellers. I've been on the phone with them numerous times over the past 3 weeks since this nonsense started and it is apparent that they could give a crap less about us. |
| hapajenn1 | 01-20-2013 03:25 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by turkeyhunt
(Post 411232)
Stealth 1: Called, the rep was super nice, asked me some questions, passed it, automatically reinstated and increased my selling limit to 100/5000 without me asking
Stealth 2: Called, rep was polite, asked questions, passed, reinstated. then increased my selling to 50/3500 without me asking
stealth 3: called, rep was just monotone , asked questions, passed, reinstated. DID Not lift limits ( i acted new and asked what the process was to increase) said I needed 3 months of selling, 25 positive fb, and good selling history.....
.....so if thats the case, then the other two shouldnt have lifted my limits right.. ? like i said, its up to the rep what they do. They have the control on you account.
Stealth 4: called and failed questions. asked to fax doc. so i hung up and called it a loss. I dont do paperwork..
Stealth 5 : didn't receive mc999. had selling limit 10/1000 | when you say you never do paperwork -- then how do you get past the PP restrictions? like when they ask for drivers ID, utility bill etc.
also lets say your stealth address is in NY then do you make sure to call from an area code thats based in NY? This is why I dislike calling and prefer emails. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:55 PM. | |
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