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they are out of controll
 

I just got suspended for selling 3 prescription items. Funny, but 2 were not even close to a prescription item. one was an air pump. the other was a flow doppler detector? how do you get these stupid cancelations over turned and rienstated.

Didn't they even give you the VERO person's name and if so what was it?

Nope, they just wrote that a VERO complaint was received by the trademark holder. I even wrote to T&S asking who complained and why it was removed, because it was just a 300+ year old vase from the Ming dynasty, without any trademark or anything and also asked if they thought it was a copy perhaps. They wrote back that they could not give me more information than they had already given me and that they did NOT remove it because they thought it was a copy, but because the trademark holder complained.

They apparently have no idea about Antiques. Next thing you'll see all those Roman and Greek coins removed because Caesar or Cleopatra complained from their graves. To top it off, 5 minutes after T&S responded, they suspended the account for the period of 1 year.

And all that for a 300+ year old vase? Seriously, they're getting more ridiculous every day. I think they're growing past what they can handle, so they fight left and right suspending anything that moves.

Sorry imjustme but this is hilarious in that it shows how ridiculous they are. This is agreat story to tell people when explaining that these things happen for no reason.
Hope you have other accounts running and are able to unload the vase somehow

Yes, you mind as well just BYpass their system to sell it--Try + Try the Legit way---doesnt work with a Company like Ebay..theyre too big..
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If it were me, wait till Thurs eve-- If your fb is high enough- Camouflage the title, do a 3 day with a Buy it now, or Better yet- go Saturday eve, do a 1 day...

I think I've read here that VERO holders watch the weekend and one-day auctions very closely...I've done that in the past hoping that it would sneak through. I actually did a BIN for someone who contacted me, sold her the item went out sick, in the cold to ship it express and when she got it she complained that it wasn't as nice as the pic looked and wanted her money back. In the meantime, after the sale closed I got the "Item removed" email from ebay...go figure, after the item was closed!
BTW she put in a protest with PP and I had to refund her money. I had to express mail it because it was a box to put a watch in for her husband's birthday. By the time I was done I was real tempted to send her husband a birthday card telling him that his wife bought him a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ watch :D

Vero Items?
 

Hi just wondering what all your opinion's are on vero items. I know what vero item is in my eyes for example a chloe bag or chanel bag. But what is a vero item in your eyes individually. Am i safe listing dvds on a 1 week old account or a pair of nike trainers.

Also what would you guys say are the items to sell with decent profits and safe from ebay suspension. Ive just opened my first accounts after being suspended and dont want to fall down the same hole again.

Don't think anyone is going to be too anxious to let any of their secrets for making profits out of the bag. As for DVDs I've never gotten VERO'd for one, but did get a nasty message from the rights holder...BTW it was a legit copy, but that seems to be typical VERO holders report you even if the item is authentic just to wipe you out as competiton.

I posted several times the secret to listing vero items

sorry im kinda new and a little lazy. lol. no honestly am not

Hey- Big Rab, pm me, for a couple tips.. :)

Try this also:

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/suspens...rkarounds.html

My story starts when my account was suspended the first time in November after i had it for about 5 years and was a consistant user of both buying and selling. A month later it was re-activated after numerous emails were sent and information was faxed to some bull**** company called VeRo that claimed I was selling bootleg ****.

So my account was cancelled because they said I was in violation of some stupid law and that all money owed needs to be paid immediately. So i tried to get on with another account and start selling and within 15 mins my account was suspended because of some abuse law or somethin like that.

Long story short this was my secondary income for my car payments and now ebay took that away from me and I have no other resource where you can make money as fast as ebay to make money for my car note.

People, we can bitch and complain all we want but reality of it is, is that as long as buyers keep shopping through eBay and not realizing what they have done to us, this "Nazi Regime" will remain in power. Instead of trying to get sellers off eBay we need to ween buyers from eBay to the all other alternate sources like BluJay.com or Ubid.com.

That is my new mission in life to assist in the downfall of eBay.

They just wrote me back:

Fraudulent listing? On an account that has 10+ positive feedback with the average transaction amount of $500+? Give me a break.

$500? Thats BIG.. I have to sell 25 of my $20 items for that!!!
--Yes, imjustme, they've been using that generic for awhile,
I used to keep track of things i did to get them..
--One thing was making your listing PRIVATE, another was NO RESERVE on a high dollar item, cant remember the rest

Yeah, I only sold real authentic old Antiques on that account. Usually around $200 and an occasional $1000 item. So the average must be around $500. I ship everything FedEx and all the customers (obviously collectors with experience) were happy and that showed the items were authentic. No idea why eBay decided to pull it.

I was selling dvd boxsets on ebay but they kept pulling them after i sold about 10. maybe someone didnt like it (a powerseller no doubt) but i mean i wasnt doing anything wrong. Listing around 2 a wekk is hardly putting anyone out of sales.

There is a easy trick to selling those. Selling 2 a week can get you 10 sales off the 2 easily

Create a website ( made by Chris for a small fee ;-]), place the address in your about me page?

Or, in your 'thankyou' email you send to your buyer, again place the link to your website..tada more sales.

Is this what you mean, or is there still other ways?

BTW gang, Chris made a website for me that I am very happy with

how much do you charge to make websites. may be interested

pm me if interested

Hey Chris, you got some samples of sites you have done? Would PM you, but always seems to clear my browser when i try that...

Cheers....

Should i sell Vero Items?
 

I'm not looking to get rich. I live alone and i go to college. I plan on attending medical school soon. I'm going to have to take out a ton in loans, but i doubt that cover all my living expenses unless i get super high interest rate. I'm just looking to make enough money to get by for now.

I have 3 ebay accounts, all with 10+ feedback and 1 over a month old. Now i live in new york city and have access to just about any kind of item. The only thing is, i'm not sure what sells for huge profits.

I was thinking of buying some hongkong knockoffs, but when i went there today, there was so much to choose from. So many different types of brands and accessories. I wasn't sure what to get. I cant really afford to get one of each, i barely get by as it is.

I had read a guide on ebay on how to spot knockoffs, so i was working off that list, looking for the most inconspicuous stuff. But after examining the items i thought it was hard to determine considering i know nothing about watches and handbags.

I realize theres a great risk on selling this stuff on ebay, but i dont have much of a choice, its either i get a full time job and watch my grades suffer, or I do this.

Now i'm not looking to make 10,000 a week or anything, i'm only looking to make $300-$400 to pay my credit cards and rent. So i only plan on selling maybe 2-3 items a week.

Whats in your experience is easier to sell on ebay without getting vero'd? watches? bags? sunglasses? Does quantity matter? If i included a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ receipt and a shopping bag from bloomingdales in the auction picture, would it help me avoid being VEROd?

Ethics be dammed. I'm trying to survive.

Umm, the users gave you recommendations last week about what to do. Really
the bottom line has not changed. And maybe a part time job would not damage
the grades?

PM sent...............

quality does matter, and try not to take toooo many detailed pictures.
usually find an item, then do a search for it, then check out the ended listings and see how much the items go for. buy 1 and try to sell it. if it goes through, use the money to buy 2 more, then 3 more, then try another item, and on and on. this way you will know what kind of quality to look for and what sells and what doesent. sell 1 per account per week. but even then still theres the listing removal risk. do buy it now and have people send you offers so it doesent stay on the site too long

My VERO Story
 

I was pulled down for a VERO violation and I was suspended for a year. The rights owner through their law firm tried to shake me down for a few hundred bucks and wanted all copies of my “infringing” items. I told them that I was an attorney and that they had no proof that my items were infringing because they had no proof except from a listing photo. Needless to say, never heard back from them.

2 months have passed and I contacted VERO at vero@ebay.com that the VERO holder won’t respond because I rejected their shakedown. Now customer service, not VERO told me to apply for reinstatement. We all know what will happen, customer service will say the year suspension isn’t up.

Why bother having a VERO e-mail address that customer service responds to?

It's hard to beat VERO.

But keep reading the forums, there are work arounds.

Good luck!

Is that all you have to do to get a VERO owner off your back?

I've never had further contact from VERO owners after my account has been suspended.

Any party making a vero objection will have different requirements. Some will want your blood until you give in or back off if you don't or ignore you if they see you NAR'U. Depends on your actions after vero action.

Like you said, still NARU. VERO owner knows they don't have a case, but what does it matter to them? They still got what they wanted.

Yeah. But if and after you read the threads of this forum, you will be empowered
to get what you want. Your life has to become a game plan from now.

VERO Problems
 

I have few accounts that I sell on the items.

One one of my accounts I opened it on the 12th of February and have sold 3 items the last one today and then I tried re listing couple of the same items again but when ever I list it within minutes they are taken down by ebay and I receive an email saying that it is a ebay violation. Today I have received about 5 of those and I will relist until they suspend me I want to see how many warning will I get with 0 feedback so far. I use auctiva.com to list my items for this account.

My second account I have opened on the 23 of January and so far have sold few items and I have a feedback score of 5 with a few more to come after people receive my items. I have also tried to list the same items on this account as on the first one and they list without any problems and they appear within 1 hour in Ebay search.

So to make it clear.

One account old 7 days. Sold 3 items Problems relisting same item

One account 27 days old not even one month sold 8 items and got 5 feedback relisting same items as first account NO PROBLEMS.


What do you think it might be.I think ebay just picked this account to monitor and now whenever I list they suspend the listing for VERO.

What do you think.

The forum has 244 threads about Vero. OK, I recommend these
vero workaround and my vero story. These are the ones to hand at the moment
for me. Reading the threads will relate to your experiences and help understand
ebay's workings.

If it's a really primne VERO product you are selling, then it will get taken down quickly. Simple as that.

On my account that was about 2 years old, 100% feedback, never any issues, I got suspended after 2 VERO removals! Pretty depressing really.

sorry, meaning of VERO?
regards

To some it is a swear word! {Specially if you try to list an item.}
Verified Rights Owner (vero) like if you have a Tag Heuer watch that you got el cheapo in Bangkok, you can not list as genuine etc. the name is the intellectual property of Tag Heuer. Also high cost clothing,sunglasses, name items. Bootleg/pirate DVDs are risky, counterfeit clothing.
Lists are closely watched by the big names & ebay for vero

Bit more info here, eBay UK: Help: VeRO Programme

Problem outside of VERO, is that EBay suspends the accounts themselves by pulling listings.