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ccdef 01-29-2007 10:21 PM

PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP
 
Editor's Note: Our current research shows that all proxies, IP masking/cloaking tools, VPN, TOR, etc. will get you busted by EBAY. At best, they will throw your account into close scrutiny.

This thread shows the process by which we determined this fact.


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Do they really mask you from your real location and does ebay system (not human) auto ban you if they dont see your ip in "city" of registered "city"?

So they can't track me and come to my house and sue me sayin i opened 10 suspended accts already? >.< Since it is possible to physically track down the exact location of house with ip right? Im thinking cuz they say "take legal steps again you" if you keep trying to "abuse ebay" in the message when u get suspended.

Lastly can we all nicely post what proxies to use, how effective they were and the website to download them? =D

aspkin 01-29-2007 11:37 PM

Yes proxy IP addresses bounce you from remote locations. So eBay will be unable to trace where the user is from. I used to have to trace people by their IP address to try to verify their orders from me. If a person had a proxy ip address, like AOL I would call to verify them instead. Not that it has anything to do with what you're talking about. :p

Also a lot of users use proxies all the time, eBay may not like it but they'll usually not suspend you just for this reason.

As for tracking your IP, they won't be able to if you use proxies. But who needs tracking when they have your Paypal information. You address? Anyways there is no law against opening a new eBay account. You're only going against their terms of agreement, which is worthless. As long as you don't start stealing people's money, you'll be okay.

""Im thinking cuz they say "take legal steps again you" if you keep trying to "abuse ebay" in the message when u get suspended.""

Wow, you must really made eBay mad at you. They know you are the same person over and over again. They're linking your accounts. You must be missing a step when creating a new account. I've never had them say this to me.

As for proxies, I'm not sure. I don't use them my self. I simply change my IP address. :)

Just remeber eBay and Paypal do not work together when it comes to sharing information. Not at the moment at least. So eBay won't be able to gather your real address from Paypal unless they really wanted it. Which I see you're pushing the limits here. You may need to take a break on eBay. Let them forget about you and try again in a week or two.

Aspkin

ccdef 01-29-2007 11:43 PM

Oh what i was saying is this when i got suspend for creating a new acct:

"We regret to inform you that your eBay account has been suspended due to concerns we have for the safety and integrity of the eBay community.

"Abusing eBay" of the eBay User Agreement states, in part:

"...we may limit, suspend, or terminate our service and user accounts, prohibit access to our website, remove hosted content, and take technical and legal steps to keep users off the Site if we think that they are creating problems, possible legal liabilities, or acting inconsistently with the letter or spirit of our policies."
"

ccdef 01-29-2007 11:45 PM

Also anyone that had success with proxies would be appreciated if they can share their proxy program/link =D

ccdef 01-31-2007 01:25 AM

How did you know it "didn't" work? So you tried using a free proxy to creat account and it got linked? So that proves the proxy doesn't actually hide ur ip? Can you post the link to where you bought ur proxy and how much did it cost?

ccdef 02-01-2007 01:09 AM

I just found this free proxy and its like it has a bar at the very top to type ur url in and i tested it first by going to more than 1 ip testing page like myipaddress.com and it all showed that my ip is somewhere else though i am not there so it should be masking my true ip?

Then i went to ebay and logged in fine, ebay should be recording my ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ip now and if im behind the real ip that got accts suspended will i be safe from accounts being linked?

Im sorry modee if you dont want to share where you bought your proxy i wont ask again if you really dont want to share it but anyone else that is reading this thread i'd appreciate if they have any suggestions for any good free or cheap proxies or any ideas about proxies, how they work and if they can really help you and mask your real ip and save you from being acct suspend linked. thanks =D

aspkin 02-01-2007 01:33 AM

It's not that Modee doesn't want to help you; it's that he's trying to save that IP from being suspended by eBay. And if someone else knows about it, us mainly and we become suspended he'll be suspended as well. Not that I use proxies, just saying.

Try to Google anything proxy.. proxy services for one.

ccdef 02-01-2007 09:54 PM

Hi yes sorry i understand now sorry modee

Also is there any way i can check if the proxy is working and masking my ip from ebay whether or not the proxy is free or not.

read my previous post i used this free one but also as you have said why modee can't share his proxy,

it means that free ones are used by everyone and thousands of people on the internet, so although i am masking my ip, i am sharing it with thousands of people and if those people are also using the same strategy for ebay evasion then most likely the free proxy is also blacklisted by ebay and I'll get suspended as soon as a create an account right?

So to ensure i am using a proxy that only I am using and private the only way is to buy one >.<

aspkin 02-01-2007 10:01 PM

Most likely ccdef.

x2ruff4u 02-01-2007 11:54 PM

PROXY servers (proxies)
 
This is the best proxy tool out there and user friendly too, nothing else compares trust me on this its what I use.


Proxy Switcher - change proxy settings on the fly

aspkin 02-04-2007 02:57 AM

How's that working out for you?

x2ruff4u 02-13-2007 07:09 AM

Works great best one I can choose my country and all. No it does not work for macintosh that i know right now.

make0moneyonebay 02-16-2007 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x2ruff4u (Post 112)
This is the best proxy tool out there and user friendly too, nothing else compares trust me on this its what I use.


Proxy Switcher - change proxy settings on the fly



I am new baby here. I am trying to get back on ebay while they indefinitely suspend me. The reason that ebay suspend me was serveral vero complaint and non-seller performance issue. I regret that my bad business practise in the past. However, I did provide all refund to my buyers. Some of them even fraud me while they see my accounts are suspended. They disputed even the tracking # show delivered.

It was a bad year for me. I am looking forward to set up new ebay account with your guys' advice. The proxy thing is really one thing that puzzle me. What is the fuction for using proxy switcher?

thank you for your opinion. I plan to use my father infor with diferent address, to build a new ebay account and new paypal account.

make0moneyonebay 02-18-2007 03:38 PM

Anyone out there can share some of your great advice?

x2ruff4u 02-19-2007 05:23 AM

On the proxy switcher there is a tut its in flash and shows you how to use it. I think its under help. Sorry to hear about your bad business before.

Advice: Hm ebay knows your using a proxy. Im pretty sure of that from my experience. The best thing would be to call your isp and renew your ip, make it a dynamic ip.

make0moneyonebay 02-19-2007 05:13 PM

ok. Thank you for all the great advices.

temps425 03-12-2007 11:06 PM

Curious
 
What is the purpose of a proxy? Why not just reset your IP in the fashion mentioned in the tutorial? I turned off my modem, disconnected my network, did a direct link to my comp from the modem, release/renew IP, Rebooted the whole system and it is a different IP all together. All except the first 2 numbers. Am I missing something?

CPUGEEK 04-27-2007 12:30 AM

Will these hideip wotk?
 
Will Hide-My-IP.Com - Hide Your IP Address, Surf Anonymously, Protect Your Identify, Guard Against Hackers work with ebay? Or will they give youthe boot quickly? Have anyone tried it?

Jonas 04-27-2007 02:50 AM

eBay ****lists accounts with proxies.

First makes you enter captchas at login, to view your feedback and all over the place.

Then they delete your password and secret key, making you need a new password again. Sometimes they email sellers saying the account was comprimised.

Sometimes making new accounts even just sleeper ones that never do anything if made on a proxy will get them a NARU in a few days.

For some reason eBay seemed to removed the ****listing of things using Tor Anonymity Network although Tor is horribly slow and the right proxy if it's transparent is fast.

CPUGEEK 04-27-2007 10:44 AM

What do everyone think of this?
 
Does any use hidemyip to access ebay. Heres the link to it. I think I might give it a try...?

Hide-My-IP.Com - Hide Your IP Address, Surf Anonymously, Protect Your Identify, Guard Against Hackers

jamesy 04-28-2007 05:38 AM

has anybody tried this? I'm thinking about giving it a go too

EbayHater 04-28-2007 06:29 AM

I have a broadband connection, and now i use AOL for broadband. You get a new IP address everytime you sign on, and still have a high speed connection. You get the best of both worlds. Even though I hate AOL. I have tested it with ip-address.com and i get a different ip. I have also changed the ip address on my cable modem and router just in case I forget to sign into AOL before I goto ebay.

Jonas 04-28-2007 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EbayHater (Post 2572)
I have a broadband connection, and now i use AOL for broadband. You get a new IP address everytime you sign on, and still have a high speed connection. You get the best of both worlds. Even though I hate AOL. I have tested it with ip-address.com and i get a different ip. I have also changed the ip address on my cable modem and router just in case I forget to sign into AOL before I goto ebay.

I remember AOL back when I was a minor in 95 - 97 I used to phish for accounts there, was into the warez scene, etc.

AOL liked to boot people easily like eBay... AOL would ban for cussing or if TOSAdvisor entered even a public room, TOSAdvisor liked to term people for no reason. Also, AOL kept billing past cancellation, which is something eBay really likes to do more than anything else.

EbayHater 04-28-2007 09:20 AM

I know all about AO HELL. But for now it gets the job done as added security right now. besides I dont use chat rooms. I only log into ebay and get off.

JackNoMore 05-17-2007 05:35 PM

Creating an account different from your IP info? Will you be banned?
 
Not sure where this belongs but this looks as good a place as any...

Has anyone ever tried to create an account in a different country before? I think there were at least a couple members who were looking into it last I heard. Since ebay has the new rules about requiring new sellers to have a paypal account to accept payment right off the bat, would this cause problems with having your account based somewhere else? Also, what about your IP information? Would you be very likely to be banned almost immediately with your IP being a totally different country from what you registered the ebay account with? Lastly, would you have to have a card (gift or whichever) based in that country to get away with it? I'm considering it as I think it would help my sales considerably as well as help get around some of ebay's more ludicrous rulings. I suppose I could always dive in, but I thought it best to ask here first before trying.

Any thoughts out there? :)

JackNoMore 05-18-2007 09:31 AM

So...why does my post belong here in the proxy thread exactly? Can a proxy make the account look like it's in another country? Would you even need to do this if you have a different IP each time you log on regardless of where in the world you tell ebay your address is? I guess what I'm asking is...would a proxy have anything to do with helping this to work or not?

CPUGEEK 05-18-2007 09:45 AM

A proxy will not help you . It will only make things worse.

JackNoMore 05-18-2007 10:31 AM

In that case, how would one go about creating an account somewhere else? As long as you don't get into questionable sales tactics and vero goods, will ebay pretty well leave you alone, or will you likely be banned almost immediately (if it lets you at all)?

JackNoMore 05-19-2007 10:22 AM

I'm not catching your meaning. Are you saying that a proxy won't help disguise the location being elsewhere than where you say it is on your registration information? Without the proxy are you sure to be caught and suspended by registering in that manner, or will the system leave you alone until questionable activity occurs? If you play it straight in any other matter, will you be safe? I see a lot of accounts where the location of the actual item is different from the location where the account was created. Just curious how they would get away with that, if it's likely from doing what I'm suggesting, or if they use drop shippers.

CPUGEEK 05-19-2007 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack (Post 3299)
I'm not catching your meaning. Are you saying that a proxy won't help disguise the location being elsewhere than where you say it is on your registration information? Without the proxy are you sure to be caught and suspended by registering in that manner, or will the system leave you alone until questionable activity occurs? If you play it straight in any other matter, will you be safe? I see a lot of accounts where the location of the actual item is different from the location where the account was created. Just curious how they would get away with that, if it's likely from doing what I'm suggesting, or if they use drop shippers.

When you sell an item you can specify the location of the item, thats why you some location of items on ebay different from where the seller is..

And with the proxies, just leave them alone. It's too risky. ebay hates proxies

JackNoMore 05-19-2007 12:46 PM

CPU, that's helpful information, but it still leaves the main question of whether or not you can register the account wherever you please and not be suspended for it. I understand that you can pick where the item is located, just wondering if that's how they can get away with registering somewhere but actually BEING somewhere else.

For example if a user was in Canada but registered their account in the U.S. Or vice versa. Or say the user was somewhere in the UK and registered a U.S. based account. Or vice versa. Or Japan. Or Korea, South America, Australia, China, Or wherever really. These are just examples.

Would the ebay server kick you out for that, or red flag and monitor you, or would that happen only when your account was reported, called into question due to selling behaviour or the like? And would you REALLY find it being a problem when it came to placing a credit card on file? I suppose you would pretty much HAVE to use a virtual card in that case? Or are these things that Ebay will dismiss/ignore until you start doing and selling things they don't like?

CPUGEEK 05-19-2007 01:14 PM

Why would you want to do all that.?? Just register a the account for the city you are in and you wont have no problems..

See, it is not 1 thing you do to get kicked off ebay, it is a combination of things....

Ebay base your account on brownie points..

JackNoMore 05-19-2007 03:18 PM

For a lot of reasons. Reasons of account limitation, reasons of being eligible for certain things, what Modee just said living in another country after registering. Many other personal reasons I'd rather not air out in the open.

Modee, would you be able to successfully do that with a regular card, or would it be necessary to get a virtual Simon (or other) card to avoid being suspended? How long had the OP's account been open/how established was it when she moved?

altu 07-16-2007 08:42 PM

Hide your IP address program from cnet.com , I love it
 
Hi guys, I found this program on Cnet.com that can change your IP address as often as you like. I think it might be great for us the "ebay suspended" people to avoid being linked to our old account by our IP address as aspkin said. what do you think aspkin? do you think this program will do the trick?

after I installed it, you can either have a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ IP address world wide ( from France to africa ) or search under only within your country ( which I think might be better so ebay won't be suspecious? )

here is the link to cnet's program. it's free trial and after I used it I think it's awesome so I paid like $20 for it. let me know what you think guys

Hide The IP - Reviews and free downloads at Download.com

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kevinxu 07-17-2007 09:51 PM

about the proxy
 
i'm not in us but i need register us account.I only know a little bit about proxy.anyone know good proxy tools to use?thanks

JackNoMore 07-18-2007 02:44 PM

So out of the handful that have been discussed in this thread and others lately, which IP hiding software would be recommended above all others for international trade? There's AOL, the Proxy Switcher, Hide-My-Ip.com, Hide The Ip, and I'm sure there's more.

georgesmith 07-18-2007 03:24 PM

AOL is the sure fire way of staying on eBay, stick to ISP proxies. If you just use some sort of proxy software, you probably will get flagged at one point.

plugfish99 08-05-2007 10:33 PM

proxies will get you suspended immediately
 
I have used proxies a number of times with ebay. I was always suspended immediately. Has happened 5 or 6 times.

cj

Chris Hanson 08-06-2007 02:05 AM

i used a proxy 2 days ago with a UK ip and my account is still fine

JackNoMore 08-06-2007 08:52 AM

Was this to create a UK related account? Was it by choice that you ended up with the UK ip or just an accident? Do you mind sharing the source?


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