| | | jhohman | 12-23-2010 10:19 PM | Hey all I got a question, if I have a main windows user account with ALL my gmail paypal email addresses linked to outlook (just so I know when payments are coming in), do you think I should be safe if I just open the paypal emails?
If not, what are your methods to manage 10+ accounts without pissing off customers for being slow? I could sign into all 15 of my accounts every single day and check but that would get old after a while, plus I heard some people on this forum managing something like 20+ accounts, how? Thanks guys! |
| manolete | 12-24-2010 05:30 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jhohman
(Post 192289)
Hey all I got a question, if I have a main windows user account with ALL my gmail paypal email addresses linked to outlook (just so I know when payments are coming in), do you think I should be safe if I just open the paypal emails?
If not, what are your methods to manage 10+ accounts without pissing off customers for being slow? I could sign into all 15 of my accounts every single day and check but that would get old after a while, plus I heard some people on this forum managing something like 20+ accounts, how? Thanks guys! | I suppose is not loading any image, I mean downloading all the emails as plain text.
Any suggestion? |
| cloudbell | 12-31-2010 09:31 AM | first of all you need to select the right browser you using, firefox could be the right choice becuase its highly configurable. Forget google chrome, safari or ie8 they leaving many traces behind you. |
| manolete | 01-01-2011 05:29 AM | About Receiveing email I mean, in receiving mail from different paypal accounts.
I guess if it is possible use any mail program, as for example, outook or thunderbird without taking tokens.
For browsing I also believe firefox is great.
regards |
| cloudbell | 01-02-2011 04:37 AM | Hi,
Let me clear up this. Tokens are in the pictures. For example you can use outlook to avoid having tokens, just disable to download pictures.
Tracking trough email / downloaded pictures are really easy to understand because its a simple idea.
I try to exlpain here:
The pictures they send to you are not contained in the email they are rather than just link for online pictures on thire server. So when your email client downloads the picures in the message, you donwload it from their server, so they will have your ip address. If they want to track you down they will send you a cusom picture so a custom picture name like sjjakjasoiaka9182871261.gif or a custom link like ebay.com/jkasjakajakkjaskja9812818281.jpg and if you download it you "vertified" that you was the owner of that ip address or backwards your ip address was the owner of that user name or email address.
You can slip a big time on this easy to avoid this so try to be causious.. |
| pinkmilk | 02-11-2011 09:41 PM | I am sure someone already asked this but the threat is miles long and I haven't found my question so I am go to ask it.
Old ebayemails. obviously never open them again. Delete them? Are they still "beakoning" even after they sit in your old mail box? |
| motorfinger | 02-12-2011 07:03 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkmilk
(Post 204425)
I am sure someone already asked this but the threat is miles long and I haven't found my question so I am go to ask it.
Old ebayemails. obviously never open them again. Delete them? Are they still "beakoning" even after they sit in your old mail box? |
Yes, doesn't matter how old the email, they still contain script for "beakoning" |
| pinkmilk | 02-13-2011 05:17 PM | What about Pypl history? Pypl lets you download your transaction history, which I did thinking it would include all the customer contact information (it doesn't).
It is an excel spreadsheet. Could that give off any tracking signal too, like eby emails? There are no pictures in this history file. Can/should I convert it into a notepad document instead or just get rid of it? |
| Pringles | 07-15-2011 02:06 AM | Im usually really careful in regards to emails and stealth but on a couple of occasions ive opened ebay gmail emails using my iPhone's default Mail app which actually displays images without prompting me
Anyone have any information regarding stealth and the iphone Mail app? |
| jazzth | 09-26-2011 09:36 AM | What if I use a different virtual machine and different VPN address for every ebay user I have? |
| imjustme | 09-26-2011 05:13 PM | I use Gmail Manager for all my email accounts: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...gmail-manager/
I have images disabled on all accounts and I NEVER click on a link in an email. If I have to respond to someone, I do it directly over email to their email address, or use eBay messages. |
| Mosex11 | 11-12-2011 03:37 AM | can PAYPAL track us through web beacons from images also? |
| GrannyT | 11-12-2011 05:42 AM | Yes I believe they can |
| JomJarr | 01-13-2012 03:38 PM | Quote:
EDITORS NOTE:
The final verdict is that EBAY cannot track you through opening or reading your emails. Web beacons are not an issue. Cookies are not deposited into your system by opening or reading EBAY emails.
| Seeing as this is patently FALSE can it please be changed!
OK, I've not read through this sticky thread but I have just opened an old eBay email (in my general Windows user account) that is 2 years old and it is showing me photos within that email of items I've browsed in the last 24 hours.
Obviously this email (from 2010) pulls up cookies from your current Windows user login.
Very dangerous if you're checking or organising through old emails whilst in your stealth Windows user account! It will link your current cookies with that old email and eBay account surely?
Or are we saying that even if it uses those cookies, it is still not transmitting any information? |
| jackd | 01-20-2012 10:51 AM | I have few acc all have diff Win/EB/PP serving 1 acc per user.
i have all email diverted to 1 address.
Is it a danger to open emails (will NOT be answering)
If danger to open them , can i just look at the folder by not opening them completely ?
Like i said all of them are directed to 1 address. |
| slapped | 01-20-2012 10:29 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jackd
(Post 306080)
I have few acc all have diff Win/EB/PP serving 1 acc per user.
i have all email diverted to 1 address.
Is it a danger to open emails (will NOT be answering)
If danger to open them , can i just look at the folder by not opening them completely ?
Like i said all of them are directed to 1 address. | Emails are of to open and read,,,NEVER allow the Pictures to open and Display however |
| Love_decay | 01-21-2012 10:53 AM | Technically, if using images to track a user was/is used - the email company will "flag" this a malware and that email may not go through or may end up in the spam.
Am not saying you cannot use those sort of stuff to track. Technically, just opening an image is inside you mail box is not enough, you have to click that image to get tracked.
Tracking, through image could never work via email. Think of it, if it were possible imagine how many email account would get hacked everyday. You could run a script to steal a username and password.
However, you could track when an email was opened. I do not know if the email companies, would still let this happen.
Either way better safe than sorry. But, i wouldnt bother bout the mail tracking. Just keep your transactions legit, IP clean and pc clean you should be fine.
Remember, you can access your email anywhere even on the moon. There are no restrictions to where you can access your email . So, "technically" tracking emails would be a waste of resources. Which we all know most corporation - are short off. |
| kewlhand | 05-22-2012 07:27 PM | I would like to correct something from previous post "Technically, just opening an image is inside you mail box is not enough, you have to click that image to get tracked." I'm afraid thats not true, the act of downloading an email with images causes your IP to be tracked at the image servers source. So if you are using multiple IP's for your stealth accounts, but looking at your ebay emails from one IP, your probably going to get caught. Simplest solution is either set Outlook to not download images automatically, or use a web service (like gmail) that defaults to blocking images. |
| club1010 | 06-17-2012 09:38 PM | Tell Website you don't want to be tracked..use inPrivate Browsing Okay, the issue is ebayaintstupid is right about the whole beacon issue and aspkin is also right about tracking scripts embedded in source codes used for writing web pages. Okay now the REAL issue is how do we stop this madness?
Answers are:
1. Stick to one web browser per account is you have multiple account.
2. Make sure you tell websites you DON'T want to be tracked by clicking on "Tools", "options", and the "Privacy" in Mozilla Firefox and clicking the inside the little box which says "Tell Browsers I don't want to be tracked"
3. Click on "tools" and click on "Start in Private Browsing" to prevent sniffers (Ebay/Paypal) from inserting java script into your system in other to sniff your computer.
4. If you have multiple ebay & paypal acount, then use different browser for each one and make sure you note which browser is for which account by writing them down in you notepad or diary.
Here are list of browsers you can use: Browsers List
You will find which browser is capable of running on which OS as some browsers may run fine on Windows and not run fine on Apple or Linux.
So dedicate one browser to one USER ACCOUNT on your computer and then dedicate the user account to one ebay+paypal account.
Happy Selling to everyone.
=}- |
| alex068 | 11-25-2012 07:25 PM | Hello everyone i have a question and i really need help i forward a paypal email from my TOP rated seller to a another email and looked at it on a BANED comp and l clicked on the link am i F**ked!!!?:violin: |
| slapped | 11-25-2012 11:51 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by alex068
(Post 396210)
Hello everyone i have a question and i really need help i forward a paypal email from my TOP rated seller to a another email and looked at it on a BANED comp and l clicked on the link am i F**ked!!!?:violin: |
You should be Ok,,, |
| lisa21801 | 11-27-2012 07:04 PM | For those of you that do not believe Ebay can REMEMBER, (as they say, LIke an ELEPHANT)--
let me tell you a story.
I have many accts set up on a laptop, others on desk tops in my office.
I got indefinitely banned from selling today.
This was a fairly good acct, 100/$5k. All setup. pictures different, its own cell line, everything.
I make notes even when buyers ask "weird" questions.
Years ago, probably in 2007, I had a special product made.
Ive lost 2 other accts over the years, tracking back to this one-of-a-kind product.
.. Well, I guess since I'm never gonna sell it on ebay again, I can tell you all.
I had a special "POWER SELLER" tape produced. It was heavy grade, 1.78x36yds,
and the entire roll, in red,white,blue, says "POWER SELLER THANKS YOU".
It was made to show customers I cared, and to impress clients.
Well, seems every time its listed, it sells, and sells like hot cakes, but no more.
Ebays email says they banned me with "evidence in their records"..after gathering all notes, thinking about a possible linkage, and bingo--it came to me, the dreaded
PS Tape.
So, the reason for this post it to again alert folks that ebays computers are running strong, and that even when you least expect it--you are gone!
So, long story short, I did what I KNEW was wrong in my gut.
The acct by the way, had excellent fb, a straight 5.0,all the way.
items were shipped same day as purchase, account even id verified.
So, once again, IM back here, on Aspkins neck of the woods, to share, and learn more, And, to remind myself of the subtle clues, and what to stay on guard for.
Good Luck to all!
:) |
| unplugme71 | 01-04-2013 04:31 PM | I know this is in reply to older posts from page 1, but here's some info on cookies.
Cookies can only be opened by the same application that it was saved in. Notice I said Application, not just Web Browser. This means, IE, FireFox, Safari, Outlook, Thunderbird, Mail.app, etc all store cookies.
With all cookies cleared, if you open a link in Outlook that takes you to ebay.com messages, you now created two cookies. |
| asterix040173 | 01-17-2013 04:46 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by tpayton
(Post 192)
Very interesting.
I've followed the guide without error and still got busted. The only thing that I did that could have linked me in any way was read old emails from the old suspended account and kept using PayPal.
I'm wanting to hope that the PayPal theory of it not being connected with EBay is correct - as many people have kept their new accounts using the same PayPal accounts. I'm hoping that what got me suspended was reading those old emails because of this "beakon" theory. It makes sense and had me asking if "emails" could track you.
So thanks! I've not been reading old emails from my new IP address and so far no problems - so we'll see.
Take care |
well, At the end of the day paypal and ebay are the same company.
I wouldnt understand if ebay was putting so much hard work in detecting people who were banned and not using paypal name database to even check better.A few line of php code will do the job(of course view the amount of data, a ramdom check could be easier)
but I am not sure...but seems logical...
I know i would do it.. |
| Futuremogul888 | 01-17-2013 08:38 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by club1010
(Post 351328)
Okay, the issue is ebayaintstupid is right about the whole beacon issue and aspkin is also right about tracking scripts embedded in source codes used for writing web pages. Okay now the REAL issue is how do we stop this madness?
Answers are:
1. Stick to one web browser per account is you have multiple account.
2. Make sure you tell websites you DON'T want to be tracked by clicking on "Tools", "options", and the "Privacy" in Mozilla Firefox and clicking the inside the little box which says "Tell Browsers I don't want to be tracked"
3. Click on "tools" and click on "Start in Private Browsing" to prevent sniffers (Ebay/Paypal) from inserting java script into your system in other to sniff your computer.
=}- |
This will not work because Ebay is suspicious of those who don't let them track them, so this will either lead to an unexplained ban or an account that never has its limits increased.
The best advice is to follow the rules of stealth very strictly. Only ever access anything connected to each stealth account under its dedicated user account and be very cautious of IP address changing.
It is best to hide in plain sight with ebay and let them believe that you are model Ebayer with nothing to hide. The key to the game of longetivity with stealth is trust between ebay and your account. |
| schris142 | 02-21-2013 06:08 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by slim jim
(Post 423857)
Please do not post the same post in different threads. One is enough. I responded to one of them | hi
sorry i thought id pass it abut so it gets read |
| GreenBean | 02-21-2013 06:11 PM | Auctiva is a different topic from this.
the reverse happens when the same old same old is posted, users do not feel like replying. |
| frozenprince | 05-21-2014 05:28 PM | Re: Tracking through emails / Web beacons / TOKENS / index.dat files? WHAT ELSE? Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustme
(Post 272293)
I use Gmail Manager for all my email accounts: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...gmail-manager/
I have images disabled on all accounts and I NEVER click on a link in an email. If I have to respond to someone, I do it directly over email to their email address, or use eBay messages. |
Very good information I use outlookexpress and iphone mail app, I disable all pictures been long time doing that but sometime I do reply important email direct from the mail app or outlook, "Click reply" when image disable is this safe? if not why?
When I download eBay message from multiple account with iphone mail app or outlookexpress with image disable is this safe too? with same IP adress download? will eBay notice the same ip even if the image is disabled? |
Re: Can eBay link your account by just opening an email? Quote:
Originally Posted by sss99
(Post 784)
Question: Lets say I log into my email to check up on any emails I may have received from my stealth email address
1. If I click on one of those "Message from eBay Member" emails (just click on it to read it. Nothing else), can that get me linked?
2. If I click on one of those emails and reply to it (reply directly, NOT replying through eBay), can that get me linked?
Just wondering if eBay can grab your IP address by opening up one of the emails that's sent through the eBay system
Thanks | Hi,
Did someone answer this question? as I have the same inquiry as well...
Thanks/ |
| slapped | 05-29-2014 01:55 PM | Re: Tracking through emails / Web beacons / TOKENS / index.dat files? WHAT ELSE? ^^^^^^^^^^^^
---------@Flow
It is ok for you to VIEW but NOT Anwser those Emails,,,ONLY if your "Show Images in Email" is DISABLED---if you Download Images from Ebay you WILL be Linked |
| malikguy | 10-28-2020 01:33 AM | Re: Tracking through emails / Web beacons / TOKENS / index.dat files? WHAT ELSE? Sorry for resurrecting a really old thread, but I couldn’t find anything more recent. My eBay account was banned years ago and I just moved which has provided me with an opportunity to open a new stealth eBay account.
I have a question about email tracking. I use my iPhone for emails and I received an email from eBay in regards to something I purchased recently on my banned account. This was done at my old address using my old ISP. I was on WiFi at the time at my new house and accidentally opened this email on my phone, but did not click any links. The OP of this thread notated in 2008 or so that eBay cannot link you by opening emails. Is that still true or will my new IP now be linked to my banned account from viewing the email with images in iOS? | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:12 PM. | |
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