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entering my Email after being suspended by Ebay
 

hi,

I was suspended from Ebay (buyer) and I want to open a new account after opening a new Email account, new credit card, new paypal account and changing my IP.

my question is: can I login my previous Gmail account (which I used for registering my old suspended Ebay account) after I open a new Ebay account?
can Ebay "see" my cookies indicating I logged into my previous Gmail account, and make the connection?

thanks

Nope. Fleebay can't read other cookies on your system.

Wikipedia: HTTP cookie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gmail is the ideal stealth email account, as not only is it a brilliant free email service, google do not share your ip with anyone, any email you send, the only ip that can be derived from that email header is google's own.

Ha, you tell me! My wonderful 2 powerseller accounts more than 1000 FB each down the drain last week.

I think you shouldnt be worrying. As I understand it, you only checked email with the wrong IP. I dont think emails have cookies...do they? Plus when you check your email you are not logging into paypal, but your mailserver.

sceptic
 

we are told never to sign into old accounts
but can you give exact reason why you think ebay cant see ip through sending an email to a normal non g-mail type e-mail account. think if I can see the IP of a recipeint when I use my g-mail then why cant ebay?
Surely this means any old accounts with old non gmail e-addresses are in trouble because they send e-mails and see Ip of that day, and perhaps that day you are setting up new account completely correctly.
doesnt one have to close those e-mail accounts completely eg a hotmail account!
why wouldnt ebay have this software, it exists?

I am a Network Engineer who speacialized in email systems
 

This is my first post so be gentle, also just want to say how happy I am to have found this site.

I got the suspension email in outlook no pictures displayed of course and within minutes my other account was taken out too. Being that I have an extensive knowledge in networking specializing in email systems. I know how to cover my tracks. I took a dedicated laptop with a clean install of Windows no junk, no nothing. Setup for this one purpose only and never used at home. I know how easy it is for them to connect accounts. I usually drive a few blocks away and hop on an unsecured wireless network take care of business and go home. I have been driving myself nuts trying to figure out how I messed up? It went down like this. I use Windows Live Mail for collecting mail for the two accounts on my desktop computer. The pictures were never displayed but the preview pane was enabled which the default is setting. Technology progresses quickly but as far as I know if you don’t display the images your ip will not be reported back. But if there were hidden code you wouldn’t be able to stop it from calling home, saying I arrived at this IP address.

This is what physically happens when you send an email. It first goes to your local mail server, it queries DNS for the ip address of the root domain (Ex/ Bill@microsoft.com) once it is given the address to the root server (in this case ".com") it then asks for the record belonging to Microsoft's mail server in the root of com. After your local email server finishes resolving the domain name it contacts the host mail server and hands your mail off if the destination mail server which checks to see if it is a valid recipient. If no recipient on the server it gets sent back out to sender with an undeliverable message notification. But if there is a recipient its gets forwarded to their mail client running on their machine. Ex/ Outlook or Microsoft Live Mail, etc.... When the administrators who send the email needs to trouble shoot there are many, many tools at our disposal. I can easily trace the path an email took for an intended email address. If you have two eBay accounts you want to keep separate and you have one mail client receiving mail for multiple accounts they can tell. And who knows what else they can do with embedded html code in any email you happen to see in the preview pane even with the pictures turned off. Bottom line, if your going to check your mail for seperate accounts at a bare minumum use a proxy with a browser.

Though hate to re-live the dead thread ,I find it more important to share information with you guyz.This is for all the doubters.
Guyz beacons in eBay emails definitly exist!! I agree with ebayaintstupid.

Go to the ebay's search page and type in web beacons .You would then find ebay's policy about privacy ,cookies and beacons where they have openly declared the use of web beacons.But they have also indirectly stated that they use it for account security ,trust and safety reasons.
Guyz what else you need to know in order to believe this!

question
 

if i have a gmail account and i have the pictures as blocked andi have privacy on the computer blocking ebay, is it ok to read messages

You can read your messages, just dont display the images in the email by using the "display images" link to be on the safe side

can i respond to emails
also can i open ebay buy it now offers?

UP and DOWN ARROWS
 

I created a stealth account a few weeks ago, and have my own account on a separate user, and i unplugged my modem overnitght + different user account to create the stealth account. I was reading emails, none from ebay, and i accidentally pushed one of the arrows to go to next message and oh snap ....it was an ebay message. My email service is thru windows live, just cause i never new about gmail or webbeacons when i opend up my own
personal account. The user account i was on when i arrowed up and down was the one i used to register the stealth account, and "arrowed" to the next or previous message on my personal ebay email account. Ill update to the post if i end up getting the two
accounts associated with each other.

All you talked about in this thread is not a secret. It's all posted on ebay in this link
Cookies, web beacons, and your privacy
If your account is stealth do not use yahoo and some other companies that ebay has a contract with. These companies violate privacy. Even if ebay says they don't know your information but these companies provide ebay of users who are linked to ebay. Welcome to the new mafia of privacy violators.

ebay are now tracking you when you put proof of postage into paypal, if its trackable online and you put in the tracking number or registration number they look it up and check where it was posted from, happend to me i sent something out for my friend he got suspended and ebay sent them the message telling them how they linked him to me, of course i was a suspended user so now he is too.

paypal and ebay are like siamese twins both joined at the hip

How could they do that? They don't know how many people use a certain post office. What if there are 3 major ebay sellers and they all use the same post office one gets suspended they all do? I can't see it

I can only tell you what happend to me and my friend, both in different states and ebay sent him the message saying suspended due to to association,

this is the first I have heard of it being done but its true thats why I am on here warning you not to put tracking numbers in cos they check that now too.

hard to believe but its a ripleys believe it or not

It happend to me

yes Ive thought about that too, tracking gives all sorts of info, you can see signatures and locations posted etc..eg. post on several stealth accounts from one post office and it kind of links them, use a signature for returns or buying, its visible online for a short time - I mean if ebay have the time to look at it.

Avoiding eBay & PayPal.
 

Simple as this....

If you were/are a high volume seller, or power seller, than it is worth the investment, regardless of rather you need it or not!!!!

1. Get a NEW email address from gmail.
2. Get a prepaid debit/credit card. I recommend "MyGreenDot.com"
3. When registering your card, use a different last name & a relatives address.
- (Green Dot is great for sellers because they have a DAILY deposit limit of $2,500)
4. GET A "NEW" Computer!!!!
- (You don't need a whole system, just a tower, good systems are $300-$400.)
- (A New system will NOT have ANY of your old information on it!!!)
5. NEVER Open emails from buyers when sent outside of eBay, NEVER!!!!!!!!!
6. Post in your listings that you will NOT respond to ANY email unless sent through eBay!
7. DO NOT use the library computer when opening your new account!
- (Many other banned users have already done this before you & you could be linked to them!)
- (Use a work computer, or a relatives that does NOT eBay!).
8. ALWAYS delete cookies BEFORE & AFTER EVERY visit.
9. Reset Your IP Address.

Stick to this, and you will be fine!!!

Tracking Info
 

When tracking the "Tracking Numbers" placed into eBay/PayPal, it is NOT the specific Post Office that you use, that they are tracking..... It is Your "Sent From Address"!!!

But if you are smart enough to Ship from a Ghost address such a friend or relative, then you don't have to worry about that either.

All of this is not really recommended due to people having problems with greendot. Also, you can just change MAC address and use windows user accounts and you'll be better off than deleting cookies. :ranger:

Lowkey, your 9 steps has some Flaws and overkill that can give you a problem, the Flaw is the greendot account, Ebay is on that. The Overkill is the New Computer.
Ebay likes to see their cookies, so follow OfficialGenius advice, create New windows user accounts for EACH Ebay account you have and use these accounts ONLY for those Ebay and attached Paypal Accounts.

Thank you!
 

Ive been debating this email situation w paypal n ebay. I have a blackberry so I already have the max 11 emails.. I just opened a new email account thru gmail and I planned of forwarding ALL my ebay accounts emails to it. Aspkin you mention you do this. I usually answer all my emails from my bb. Is it safe and a good idea to do this. I have about 8 ebay accounts now and im creating a few more. Im gonna slowy get them going as your great guide suggests.
My question is is it totally safe to respond to questions from a standard email?
thanks so much! this is a great topic!

We NEED a new list of DO's and DONT's
 

I just wanted to add this, sorry if someone has already brought it up, I stayed up 2 hrs later than usual and only read up to the page 6 of this HUGE thread, and it was still back in 2008, LOL.

FYI:
"WARNING! Even if you delete all cookie files from this folder most of the information for the cookies will not be deleted because it is saved in so called index.dat file. In some cases you can see the index.dat file in the cookie folder but even if you cannot see it, it is always there. You cannot delete this file because Windows and Internet Explorer keep it open all the time. The only way to get rid of the cookies for good is to shred the content of the index.dat file with a specialized privacy protection program - Mil Shield. It cleans not only cookies but also the content of all other index.dat files (yes, there are many other index.dat files - to learn where are they read the article Where are Index.dat files located?) along with history, temporary Internet files, recently used documents history, Google, Yahoo and Bing toolbars search history and many other tracks."

NOW....to save the rest of us hrs and hrs of reading who arent techy minded can someone, for the love of ebay (bahaha) please put up a simple 1. 2. 3. type of reply with 1. The newest ways they track users, last I read it was the flash cookies that get planted when you first go to sell or if you use a different ip and 2. The newest ways they can crosslink users, last I read was paypal postage tracking?

Damn FEEBAY and GAYPAL, but guys it's great to see so many people banding together, keep up the great work :fight:

if you use firefox, there are built in add-ons to get rid of all info..lastest forum advice is to keep cookies on unique user screen but delete LSO

Now what about Linux? Does that os have cookies also? What bout firefox on Linux?

EDIT: I get what everyone is saying but, I dont know much about Linux. I have a Mac computer that has tiger 10.4. Why not use mac? Obviously I do need the stealth ebook but, I just ask because, I don't know much about mac and Linux although I have a mac and had Linux lol.


I mostly fix the computers. Sometimes build but, with Windows.

What add ons on FireFox can get rid of all info?
I use Firefox & AOL.
Thanks

The Better Privacy Add on

Thanks! I just installed it! :)

Delete Flash Objects? Why?

I agree Better Privacy is a good tool to use, but I don't recommend removing flash objects on browser exit, there is no reason to as long as you have separate user accounts.

vic said to do it aspkin, he said 'possibility' objects can be viewed on different users folders

hey, you guys know anything about using Iphone? Can I check email that all the ebay emails were forwarded to?
Please advise.

wondering if ebay can see your computer name which is the same even with different user account

technically, they can't if I'm right. They need to make a system call to get to that. Your system shouldn't give that information out.

Well, I'm open to debate.
I'm not always right!:juggle:

Any guru? all at sleep?:bounce:

Ebay MIGHT, Amazon CAN, the Best thing to do is to Rename your Computer "Dell User" or Nothing at all, Up until a Year or so ago ALL Dell Computers were Named "Dell User" Now they are Called Dell User and a Unique Serial Number, there are Millions of computers out there Named "Dell User".
Other Companies Either leave it Blank, or Have another "Default Computer Name.

i have 2 accounts been banned in a strange way.
my ebay account was banned immediately after i logged on to my user account in my pc by mc049, i didn't even touch my ebay account yet.
both account was banned in the same way, it would have stayed ok if i did not log on to user account.

Privacy report on various browswers which takes into account - cookies, flash, dom, datastore...

MAC USERS BE MOST CONCERNED

https://www.isecpartners.com/files/i...er_Cookies.pdf

Moderators Please have mercy The guys in this thread seem pretty on top of it and I would like to bring to attention my concerns. Thanks

I just recently started studying ssl certificates and realized that theirs websites that never let you erase their certificate. And microsoft gives you a permanent certificate that shares with every website to distinguish you. Also Since I'm retiring as a real ebay pusher these days they've pissed me off to the fullest. I will share with you that ebay is tracking you through the same ways google tracks you. If you study ways google tracks you then you will realize what i'm talking about and how to get if off your computer. But just remember that everytime you access the internet your infected with the code even if you don't go to google. Everybody has google infected in their PCs from the factory. Google Prides them selves in knowing what your searching for so they know which words to sell their advertisers. And it can also be your downfall in getting accounts linked. Hope You guys are still enjoying the world of auctioning.

guys, just a quick question :
I use Apple Mac and accidentally opened one of the emails from previous suspended account on new computer. Considering there might be a web beacon. Is this a problem? how can I get rid of the web beacon? I tried to 'system restore' the Mac but failed
Whats the best of action now?
thanks

Easy sollution for win mac and linux
 

The solution for having different users for selling, are the portables :

portable safari
portable firefox

etc etc ...

each one can save the cookies on his and only in his directory, no need to clean them ;).

But in my last 2 weeks, I got mc000 and mc010 to any new user that start selling.

help :help:

You just have to ride it out and see what happens. You can't undo something you did in the past...you just have to live with the mistakes.

Always use GMAIL!

That's a pretty retarded reponse.

Yes you can remove web beakons, and flash cookies and index.dat files which is the main traces Feebay leave on your computer.

Just make sure you use a different IP (or different ISP altogether if your IP is dynamic (always changes), and any and all personal information is completely different.

Dont give paypal false information becuase once you get past a certain amount of money in there, they will freeze your account, and ask you to send in proof of I.D, so make sure you use someone you know, and are willing to send in thier ID for you.

For the best bet.....

Use a different computer, different IP or ISP, different personal/postal/password details and you SHOULD, be ok. Also, dont go selling the exact same things or at a high volume for about 2 or 3 months, dont use the same listing info, descriptions, image names etc.. if you are a new user, you should act like it, not like a seller that has his groove on that knows how to sell as an experianced feebayer, ya feel me !?

;)

All the best peeps.

P.S By the way, if you HAVE to use the same computer, get a program called "bleachbit" it will wipe all the flash/web beakon, index.dat etc cookies off your system