| | | leonid5000 | 04-19-2007 01:28 AM | Sorry, ebay has made me very agitated with all its bull****. Nothing personal. I need a vacation. |
| CPUGEEK | 04-19-2007 09:24 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by samueladams
(Post 2170)
all I wanted to know was whether or not I needed to change my computer name every time I used a different account and if I had to create a new user name as well for each account. Don't see why that warranted such an obnoxious response outta leonid...no I don't know **** about CPU's I'm a medical student so its not my field of knowledge...just wanting to figure out what crap I have to deal with and what I don't. The less work the better with this crap. | If your worried about cpu names , why don't you buy a seperate cheap cpu. |
| samueladams | 04-19-2007 12:08 PM | Thank you for the info Jonas...very appreciated and informative! By computer name I was referring more to when you to to: Start>my computer>properties>computer name and just rename your computer. Yes doubt very much they could ever get a MAC address! |
| ihatebay | 04-26-2007 02:20 PM | Will checking new user ID email on a suspended IP affect me? I just checked my new USER ID email on a suspended IP (my school library). I was wondering now will I be linked? I didn't log into Ebay, just checked my gmail account and my emails are NOT plain text.
Someone please assure me :( I have like 18 auctions ending tomorrow. |
| CPUGEEK | 04-26-2007 02:26 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by ihatebay
(Post 2451)
I just checked my new USER ID email on a suspended IP (my school library). I was wondering now will I be linked? I didn't log into Ebay, just checked my gmail account and my emails are NOT plain text.
Someone please assure me :( I have like 18 auctions ending tomorrow. | I don't know....
Some say that it doesn't matter because they check more then just a Ip address and some say they have been suspended when logging into a new account on a old suspended ip address.
I think Modee can touch up on this. I think he said that he checked his new account on a suspended ip by accident and got suspended.
But now that I think about thats contradicting , because most say they look at more then just an ip address? |
| ihatebay | 04-26-2007 05:39 PM | Yea, it's about IP and Cookies but I don't know how often the library cleans their files. The thing is, I didn't log into Ebay or even go to Ebay the website. I just checked current user ID email on a suspended computer/IP/internet.
Gah!!!!! :confused: :confused: |
| leonid5000 | 04-27-2007 11:21 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Modee
(Post 2505)
If the new account sells the same kind of stuff as the suspended one, you're toast! under those circumstances. I know this from personal experience. :-| |
i have many accounts now and sell same staff that suspended account sell. I didn't even change action format. So i disagree with that statement. |
| leonid5000 | 04-28-2007 11:57 PM | if someone just logged into a suspended IP - then no further checks are done they just suspend any one who used this ip. That is just my opinion. i talked to 1 person who was using ebay at his company and when he got suspended 2 other people on other computers in this company got suspended as well. |
| CPUGEEK | 04-29-2007 12:01 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by leonid5000
(Post 2607)
if someone just logged into a suspended IP - then no further checks are done they just suspend any one who used this ip. That is just my opinion. i talked to 1 person who was using ebay at his company and when he got suspended 2 other people on other computers in this company got suspended as well. |
Okay, were you all selling the same type of items? |
| CPUGEEK | 05-01-2007 09:54 PM | ebay emails Can I open the emails I get from my customers on ebay without them getting my ip address. I 'm talking about the emails that say from "EbayMember", I opened one on y new account Ip. I have html disabled. They are the emails that when you open them it has the customer email address in the from fielld and not beyas |
| temps425 | 05-02-2007 03:52 PM | I can only remember one thread regarding "beacon" technology, or transparent images which rounded up data. I don't know if this is true, but I don't worry about it. I just use gmail and keep my images off all together. :cool: |
| CPUGEEK | 05-02-2007 04:43 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by temps425
(Post 2798)
I can only remember one thread regarding "beacon" technology, or transparent images which rounded up data. I don't know if this is true, but I don't worry about it. I just use gmail and keep my images off all together. :cool: | right.. I have my account set so that no images display, there are hyperlinks but thats it... |
| maris23 | 05-07-2007 06:50 PM | Does eBay track computer info, besides ip and cookies? I have set up several new accounts at different locations, following the guide to the T.. ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address, simon cards, new bank accounts, physically shipped items for feedback, working phone numbers, etc. My point is..... alotta work!! Now that the accounts are ready to use(over 30 days and 10 feedbacks) I would like to list items from my home computer. Obviously I have changed the ip, erased cookies and have no downloaded ebay software. I have read that changing the computer name is a good idea.. along with things as minor as monitor resolution. Any other things i should consider? After all my work, I really like to get back on and stay on for good!
Thx in advance! |
| ebay100 | 05-07-2007 07:35 PM | What? Resolution?
Hope not ..
EB100 |
| whome | 05-10-2007 04:51 AM | I have XP and to go the extra yard, I changed my "registered to" name in system properties. I noticed that the name shows up on cookies. Unfortunately, I can't remember how I did it but after an exhaustive googling I found a method that worked. If some the techies on this board can explain how to do it simply, have at it. |
| jamesy | 05-10-2007 05:52 AM | You need to edit the entry in the registry.
Go to "Start > Run", type regedit and click OK.
Navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\Cu rrentVersion
and in the right pane, double click RegisteredOwner then, in the box that opens, change the name.
Reboot and it should be changed when you re-start |
| bollock2ebay | 05-10-2007 06:21 AM | Even if u change computer name I am not sure if computer has its own unique serial number that can be traced. If u want to be completely sure buy a new computer. Also, as an extra precaution even if you set up a completely new paypal account, accept payments on a secondadary email payment address rather than the main address. That way if the new paypal account is linked through your computer to old ebay accounts, you dont compromise the new ebay account which has a different email address to the primary sign in paypal address. You see the way ebay works an ebay account has two names: the ID sign in name and the email address. On the find a member section you can use either. There is a lot of cross linking with cookies between ebay and paypal I have noticed which I will explain in my next posting |
| Ballsack | 05-14-2007 12:29 PM | That's pretty easy and you can create a bunch of accounts with at least 10 feedback within days. |
| JackNoMore | 05-17-2007 05:56 PM | Do you buy a lot of ebooks or just sell at a loss starting out? |
| CPUGEEK | 06-11-2007 10:37 AM | Opening ebay emails I opened up a ebay email that was connected to a suspended account , even though the email is text only and no images can ebay stay tie my fresh account to that email and suspend me? or is the only way they can track me is by the images in email? |
| aspkin | 06-11-2007 10:43 AM | Ebay can only track by the images in an email. If your images are disabled when reading mail then you would be okay. But if you just don't see an image, that doesn't mean there aren't any. Most tracking systems use 1x1 pixel images for tracking. |
| CPUGEEK | 06-11-2007 10:48 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by aspkin
(Post 4039)
Ebay can only track by the images in an email. If your images are disabled when reading mail then you would be okay. But if you just don't see an image, that doesn't mean there aren't any. Most tracking systems use 1x1 pixel images for tracking. | So thats why my accounts have been getting booted. I thought I was safe since there was no images displayed and I had disabled html |
| CPUGEEK | 06-11-2007 10:54 AM | So even if I disable html they can still track it right? |
| aspkin | 06-11-2007 11:12 AM | You should disable images from showing to be 100% safe. I believe Gmail has a feature like this as default. |
| CPUGEEK | 06-11-2007 11:17 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by aspkin
(Post 4042)
You should disable images from showing to be 100% safe. I believe Gmail has a feature like this as default. | Disabling HTMl doesnt disable images??? |
| aspkin | 06-11-2007 12:10 PM | Having no HTML in an email would mean you would have only text. No links, images or anything else would be there. Does that actually happen with your email provider? |
| plight | 06-11-2007 08:14 PM | Haha, I don't even open those suspended emails. Once I get booted, I simply leave the email account alone, and I never log back into my old ebay accounts. Why would you want to read that garbage anyway. |
| CPUGEEK | 06-11-2007 10:18 PM | old customers |
| anotherguy | 07-11-2007 11:19 PM | eBay and Paypal Beacons - Interesting info While researching beacons on paypal and eBay I found this info:
When you visit most web pages on eBay, a beacon/cookie is placed for *ebayrtm.com. Seems harmless at first. But, PAYPAL uses ebayrtm.com as a subdomain for some of it's web pages. For instance, the link:
rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu8a9q5VG.DIBletXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTExcDQ1bmx qBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkAwRsA1dTMQ--/SIG=12kg151md/EXP=1184300349/**https%3a//srv.main.ebayrtm.com/clk%3fRtmClk%26m=13879%26lid=180561
Will refer you to this web page:
paypal.com/idprotection?ssPageName=CMDV:AB
Paypal and eBay sharing the same remote server for beacon.cookie placement is dangerous for us. Mandatory cookie removal will potentially prevent the beacon/cookie combination from identifying you and linking accounts. Hope this helps someone. |
| Chris Hanson | 07-12-2007 08:04 AM | Thats why i always clean cookies with my military defense secure cleaner before logging in |
| bollock2ebay | 07-15-2007 12:52 PM | Maybe even replying to emails on unsuspended accounts is dangerous too. If the email address of your ISP account is connected to a suspended account you will be linked. Ebay acts as a mail forwarder. If you use your ISP's email reply button, the other member's email address comes up (provided by Ebay) and you send reply to their private email address. So there is a transfer of info (the other members email address) which may not be just one way. That info is transferred to the address window in the email you send. Does ur email address info get sent to Ebay? Alternatively, if u use the Ebay respond button will your ISP account email address be shown in the reply? If you have two accounts u could send yourself a question and see which email address comes up when you send an email direct outside of the ebay reply system. Either the registered email address of the ebay account will show when you reply to the reply or the main email address of the ISP account will show. The ebay reply system may be a disguised form of email that incorporates your main ISP email address which can be traced as you would when you open up the email details on the origins of an email sent via a mail forwarder. Often an email that seems to come from one address was in fact from another address but sent via the forwarding address shown in the sender window |
| bollock2ebay | 07-15-2007 01:23 PM | Disregard the above as I was confused by the mail forwarders I use into what happens |
| Quickie | 07-26-2007 04:35 PM | Dealing with Cookies and how eBay tracks you I just want to address the isue of cookies, seeing that among the "suspendee" community the notion of clearing cookies is dealt with very simplistically.
If you're going to be annonymous to eBay/Paypal , you need to realize this:
Cookies/files/history (I call it the CFH for short) must be cleared before entry AND after exit from every ebay/paypal session. And at other times too.
Every email from eBay contains at least one, sometimes 2 to 4 SPG's (single-pixel GIF's)
also known as Web Beacons and Web Bugs.
If you open an ebay email addressed to account A, and in your last eBay session you accessed account B, and did not clear cookies on exit, you're cooked. Even if no browsers are open. You'e mixing cookie dough from accounts A and B, and they can see it.
Another scenario.
You exited all ebay/paypal sessions, and closed all browsers, AND cleared CFH.
Now you're reading email.
You read ebay mail for account A. you close it. You open an email for account B. Bingo, you're done.
And then you say "I've done nothing!... How did they catch me?
Duuuh... |
| likethemapples | 07-26-2007 05:56 PM | I did have that duhh!! moment when I read my first thread on the subject. But the post above is dead-on. Simple, factual, and provides a solution. |
| Chris Hanson | 07-26-2007 06:32 PM | Nice post Quickie. |
| Quickie | 07-26-2007 07:06 PM | I'm willing to bet that reading eBay's emails probably accounts for a majority of suspensions.
Single Pixel GIFs can (and do) intitiate conversations between your computer and the eBay server, conversations in which information is asked from your PC, cookies are retrieved, and more cookies are planted.
The only viable solution is to go to text-only email.
It's a bummer, since once you're used to the graphics, it takes you twice as long to locate relevant information in a text version of the same email. maybe longer.
But you have to view eBay email as an AIDS infected needle. Wash, cleanse, wash some more.
Keep in mind that they watch us, suspended castouts. They read what we post. They look at some of the products that are out there for us. They try to do the same thing we're doing-- watch how we operate and learn from it, and compensate for it.
They know that if you do X and you get suspended, you will learn that X gets you into trouble, and you'll avoid doing X next time (and publish that on the forums).
Which is why accounts tend to get suspended at a later time, from the time you commit the blunder. Could be 2 days, could be 10 days. They try not to give away their methods, but the ONLY tool at their disposal for that, is TIME.
Soooo, factor out time, and go back and look at what happend, again. You'll often understand better. |
| Chris Hanson | 07-26-2007 07:17 PM | i'm very surprised that no trust and saftey ex employee or present employee has spilled the beans yet |
| Quickie | 07-26-2007 07:29 PM | They must be made to sign some pretty intimidating non-disclosures.
And , having first-hand knowledge of the kind of tracking they may be subject to, they may be unwilling to risk it, even post-employment.
And they may not all go home and Google "ebay suspension", but rather "IT jobs" instead. |
| john11888 | 07-28-2007 04:03 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Quickie
(Post 6330)
I just want to address the isue of cookies, seeing that among the "suspendee" community the notion of clearing cookies is dealt with very simplistically.
If you're going to be annonymous to eBay/Paypal , you need to realize this:
Cookies/files/history (I call it the CFH for short) must be cleared before entry AND after exit from every ebay/paypal session. And at other times too.
Every email from eBay contains at least one, sometimes 2 to 4 SPG's (single-pixel GIF's)
also known as Web Beacons and Web Bugs.
If you open an ebay email addressed to account A, and in your last eBay session you accessed account B, and did not clear cookies on exit, you're cooked. Even if no browsers are open. You'e mixing cookie dough from accounts A and B, and they can see it.
Another scenario.
You exited all ebay/paypal sessions, and closed all browsers, AND cleared CFH.
Now you're reading email.
You read ebay mail for account A. you close it. You open an email for account B. Bingo, you're done.
And then you say "I've done nothing!... How did they catch me?
Duuuh... | Many thanks for your great information,u mean must delete all CFH before each entry paypal or ebay. & pls explain clearly that after exit paypal or ebay? eg. delete all CFH > logout > close browser or logout > delete CFH > close browser Thx |
| Quickie | 07-28-2007 12:58 PM | Yes, after each exit from ebay/paypal you should clear CFH, since, if you read email addressed for another account, cookies left over from the last session witll mix with new cookies from the email.
All ebay emails have hidden GIFs. A single pixel GIF is an invisible picture, just one pixel, same color as the background. When the email client has to display this GIF, because you're opening (or even just previewing the email), it has to fetch this GIF from its location, which is on an eBay server. Your client goes to the server and asks: I need this GIF, to display it. The server doesn't just serve up the GIF, it asks, "Yeah, but who are you?. Your computer complies, and the server gets complete info on your IP, user ID with your IP, IP's geography, network name, etc. The GIF also triggers java scripts , which execute commands, including retrieval of cookies from your computer, and serving of new cookies.
There's actually more.
After clearing CFH, you must close all browsers then reopen them, in order to be clean.
While any browser instance is open (including the little "pop-behind" you may have missed)
Windows keeps a copy of cookies cached in memory. Even if you deleted all disk files, the memory cache still remains, and is only flushed on closing of the last browser instance.
You can use a program like CClean (cookie cleaner) to erase all evidence with one click. It takes one second, and is a lot faster than the 15 clicks you need to do it through IE.
If you receive emails from eBay addressed to more than one account in the same inbox, you'd need to run CClean in between the reading of each email.
You'd need to configure your email client to render TEXT only, but each client has some imperfect behaviour at times with respect to this.
If you insist on working with more than one active ebay account at the same time, you are really making security a nightmare for yourself.
And also, if you use a proxy to connect to ebay or paypal, you not only risk coming in from another country, but you WILL come in with a high number port address. This tells them you are coming in from a machine, a rackmount server, as opposed to a workstation, like a home PC, with a monitor and keyboard attached, which use lower numbers for assigned port addresses.
They'll know you're using a proxy. They may tolerate you, but it will go on your record. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:39 PM. | |
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